Aṅguttara Nikāya · Discourse 10.24

By Mahācunda

Mahācundasutta — Mahāvagga — the third chapter of the Tens

Setting
Sahajāti, in the land of the Cetīs
Speakers
Venerable Mahācunda, addressing the mendicants
Form
Three kinds of declaration tested against the same ten defilements, twice over, closed by a wealth simile
Length
~4 minutes to read
Reusing AN 10.23's own tenfold list
The identical ten things given up only by wisdom, here used as a test for whether spiritual claims are genuine
Difficulty
★★★☆☆ — highly repetitive by design, worth reading for its closing simile

Why this discourse

A mendicant who declares knowledge, or meditative development, or both, but is still mastered by greed, hate, or any of the other eight things named at AN 10.23, is like a penniless person who claims to be wealthy but cannot produce payment when it's due; one whose declaration matches reality, unmastered by any of these ten, is like someone genuinely rich who can always pay.

Reading guide

The teaching in one sentence

A mendicant's declaration of knowledge, of meditative development, or of both together is only as trustworthy as whether they remain mastered by greed, hate, delusion, or any of AN 10.23's other seven items — like a declaration of wealth that proves false the moment payment actually comes due.

Three kinds of declaration, each tested twice

Mahācunda names three claims a mendicant might make: knowing and seeing the teaching, being developed in physical endurance, ethics, mind, and wisdom, or both together — then tests each claim twice, once against being mastered by the ten defilements and once against not being mastered by them, producing six near-identical passages before the discourse's closing simile.

Reusing AN 10.23's tenfold list directly

This discourse doesn't introduce a new list of corruptions; it applies the identical ten items just named at AN 10.23 — greed, hate, delusion, anger, acrimony, disdain, contempt, stinginess, nasty jealousy, and corrupt wishes — as the direct test for whether any of the three declarations actually holds up.

A debt that proves whether wealth claims are genuine

The discourse's closing simile is precise and practical: a penniless person who claims wealth is exposed the moment payment comes due and they cannot produce it, while a genuinely wealthy person always can — the test isn't the claim itself but what happens when reality actually demands proof, exactly paralleling whether a mendicant's spiritual claims hold up against the ten defilements' continued presence or absence.

Key terms

ñāṇavādañca vadati — “makes a declaration of knowledge” — the first of three claims this discourse tests, ‘I know this teaching, I see this teaching.’
bhāvanāvādañca vadati — “makes a declaration of development” — the second claim, development in physical endurance, ethics, mind, and wisdom.
rāgo taṁ bhikkhuṁ pariyādāya tiṭṭhati — “greed masters that mendicant and keeps going” — the shared test applied to all three declarations, using the identical ten items from AN 10.23.
daliddo assako anāḷhiyo — “poor, needy, and penniless” — the discourse's own closing simile, a false claim of wealth exposed when payment comes due.
aḍḍho mahaddhano mahābhogo — “rich, affluent, and wealthy” — the simile's mirror-image half, a genuine claim confirmed when payment can actually be made.

The text

The discourse in full: three declarations tested against AN 10.23's ten items, twice each, closed by a wealth simile. Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato (CC0, SuttaCentral).

Three declarations, mastered by the ten

§1At one time Venerable Mahācunda was staying in the land of the Cetīs at Sahajāti. There he addressed the mendicants: “Reverends, mendicants!” “Reverend,” they replied. Venerable Mahācunda said this: “Reverends, a mendicant who makes a declaration of knowledge says: ‘I know this teaching, I see this teaching.’ Suppose that greed masters that mendicant and keeps going. Or that hate … delusion … anger … acrimony … disdain … contempt … stinginess … nasty jealousy … or corrupt wishes master that mendicant and keep going. You should know of them: ‘This venerable does not have the understanding that would eliminate greed, so greed masters them and keeps going. They don’t have the understanding that would eliminate hate … delusion … anger … acrimony … disdain … contempt … stinginess … nasty jealousy … or corrupt wishes, so corrupt wishes master them and keep going.’ A mendicant who makes a declaration of development says: ‘I am developed in physical endurance, ethics, mind, and wisdom.’ Suppose that greed masters that mendicant and keeps going. Or that hate … delusion … anger … acrimony … disdain … contempt … stinginess … nasty jealousy … or corrupt wishes master that mendicant and keep going. You should know of them: ‘This venerable does not have the understanding that would eliminate greed, so greed masters them and keeps going. They don’t have the understanding that would eliminate hate … delusion … anger … acrimony … disdain … contempt … stinginess … nasty jealousy … or corrupt wishes, so corrupt wishes master them and keep going.’ A mendicant who makes a declaration of both knowledge and development says: ‘I know this teaching, I see this teaching. And I am developed in physical endurance, ethics, mind, and wisdom.’ Suppose that greed masters that mendicant and keeps going. Or that hate … delusion … anger … acrimony … disdain … contempt … stinginess … nasty jealousy … or corrupt wishes master that mendicant and keep going. You should know of them: ‘This venerable does not have the understanding that would eliminate greed, so greed masters them and keeps going. They don’t have the understanding that would eliminate hate … delusion … anger … acrimony … disdain … contempt … stinginess … nasty jealousy … or corrupt wishes, so corrupt wishes master them and keep going.’

A poor person's false claim of wealth

§2Suppose a poor, needy, and penniless person was to declare themselves to be rich, affluent, and wealthy. But when it came time to make a payment they weren’t able to come up with any money, grain, silver, or gold. They would know of them: ‘This person declares themselves to be rich, affluent, and wealthy, but they are in fact poor, penniless, and needy.’ Why is that? Because when it came time to make a payment they weren’t able to come up with any money, grain, silver, or gold. In the same way, a mendicant who makes a declaration of knowledge and development says: ‘I know this teaching, I see this teaching. And I am developed in physical endurance, ethics, mind, and wisdom.’ Suppose that greed masters that mendicant and keeps going. Or that hate … delusion … anger … acrimony … disdain … contempt … stinginess … nasty jealousy … or corrupt wishes master that mendicant and keep going. You should know of them: ‘This venerable does not have the understanding that would eliminate greed, so greed masters them and keeps going. They don’t have the understanding that would eliminate hate … delusion … anger … acrimony … disdain … contempt … stinginess … nasty jealousy … or corrupt wishes, so corrupt wishes master them and keep going.’

Three declarations, unmastered by the ten

§3A mendicant who makes a declaration of knowledge says: ‘I know this teaching, I see this teaching.’ Suppose that greed does not master that mendicant and keep going. Or that hate … delusion … anger … acrimony … disdain … contempt … stinginess … nasty jealousy … or corrupt wishes don’t master that mendicant and keep going. You should know of them: ‘This venerable has the understanding that eliminates greed, so greed doesn’t master them and keep going. They have the understanding that eliminates hate … delusion … anger … acrimony … disdain … contempt … stinginess … nasty jealousy … and corrupt wishes, so corrupt wishes don’t master them and keep going.’ A mendicant who makes a declaration of development says: ‘I am developed in physical endurance, ethics, mind, and wisdom.’ Suppose that greed does not master that mendicant and keep going. Or that hate … delusion … anger … acrimony … disdain … contempt … stinginess … nasty jealousy … or corrupt wishes don’t master that mendicant and keep going. You should know of them: ‘This venerable has the understanding that eliminates greed, so greed doesn’t master them and keep going. They have the understanding that eliminates hate … delusion … anger … acrimony … disdain … contempt … stinginess … nasty jealousy … and corrupt wishes, so corrupt wishes don’t master them and keep going.’ A mendicant who makes a declaration of both knowledge and development says: ‘I know this teaching, I see this teaching. And I am developed in physical endurance, ethics, mind, and wisdom.’ Suppose that greed does not master that mendicant and keep going. Or that hate … delusion … anger … acrimony … disdain … contempt … stinginess … nasty jealousy … or corrupt wishes don’t master that mendicant and keep going. You should know of them: ‘This venerable has the understanding that eliminates greed, so greed doesn’t master them and keep going. They have the understanding that eliminates hate … delusion … anger … acrimony … disdain … contempt … stinginess … nasty jealousy … and corrupt wishes, so corrupt wishes don’t master them and keep going.’

A rich person's genuine claim of wealth

§4Suppose a rich, affluent, and wealthy person was to declare themselves to be rich, affluent, and wealthy. And whenever it came time to make a payment they were able to come up with the money, grain, silver, or gold. They would know of them: ‘This person declares themselves to be rich, affluent, and wealthy, and they are in fact rich, affluent, and wealthy.’ Why is that? Because when it came time to make a payment they were able to come up with the money, grain, silver, or gold. In the same way, a mendicant who makes a declaration of knowledge and development says: ‘I know this teaching, I see this teaching. And I am developed in physical endurance, ethics, mind, and wisdom.’ Suppose that greed does not master that mendicant and keep going. Or that hate … delusion … anger … acrimony … disdain … contempt … stinginess … nasty jealousy … or corrupt wishes don’t master that mendicant and keep going. You should know of them: ‘This venerable has the understanding that eliminates greed, so greed doesn’t master them and keep going. They have the understanding that eliminates hate … delusion … anger … acrimony … disdain … contempt … stinginess … nasty jealousy … and corrupt wishes, so corrupt wishes don’t master them and keep going.’”

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Self-check quiz

6 questions. Click an answer to see immediate feedback. No score is recorded — this is for your own checking.

Question 1 of 6
What three kinds of declaration does Mahācunda name?
Correct: B. Three distinct spiritual claims, each tested the same way.
Question 2 of 6
What test does this discourse apply to all three declarations?
Correct: B. The identical tenfold list just introduced at AN 10.23, reused directly here.
Question 3 of 6
What simile closes this discourse?
Correct: B. The test isn't the claim itself but whether it holds up when reality demands proof.
Question 4 of 6
How many near-identical passages does this discourse produce by testing three declarations against being mastered and not mastered?
Correct: C. Six passages total, three declarations each tested twice.
Question 5 of 6
Who speaks this discourse, and where?
Correct: B. A senior disciple teaching independently of the Buddha's own presence in the narrative.
Question 6 of 6
What does this discourse reuse directly from AN 10.23?
Correct: B. A direct application of the immediately preceding discourse's own tenfold list.
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