Aṅguttara Nikāya · Discourse 10.39

With Ānanda (1st)

Paṭhamaānandasutta — Upālivagga — the fourth chapter of the Tens

Setting
None stated in the source
Speakers
Venerable Ānanda questioning the Buddha
Form
A narrative opening, a repeated (elided) definition, a follow-up question and answer, and a closing verse
Length
~1 minute to read
Difficulty
★★☆☆☆ — straightforward, but weighty in content

Why this discourse

For the first time in this chapter, a different questioner steps forward: Ānanda goes to the Buddha and asks the same question Upāli asked in AN 10.37 — what defines schism — but this time presses further, asking what the one who causes it actually reaps. The answer is stark: an eon in hell, sealed with a four-line verse.

Reading guide

The teaching in one sentence

A schismatic is defined exactly as in AN 10.37, but here the Buddha adds the consequence: whoever splits a harmonious Saṅgha brims with sin lasting an eon and burns in hell for that eon, a verdict sealed with a closing verse.

A new narrative frame, a new questioner

Unlike AN 10.32–38, which read as one continuous conversation with Upāli, this discourse opens with its own narrative: “Then Venerable Ānanda went up to the Buddha, bowed, sat down to one side” — the same formal opening used for AN 10.31, signaling a fresh scene rather than a continued exchange.

The same definition, elided

Rather than restating the ten grounds in full, the source elides most of the definition with an ellipsis, trusting the reader to recall AN 10.37's exact wording — a repeat acknowledged rather than reproduced.

A cost finally named, in verse

This is the first point in the chapter where a karmic consequence is stated outright, and the first appearance of a closing verse anywhere in this chapter: the four lines drive home in poetic form what the preceding prose already said in legal form — a schismatic burns in hell for an eon.

Key terms

kappaṭṭhikaṁ kibbisaṁ — “sin that lasts for an eon” — the specific phrase naming the weight of the offense, distinct from an ordinary bad outcome.
kappaṁ nirayamhi paccati — “they burn in hell for an eon” — the literal consequence, repeated in both prose and the closing verse.
saṅghaṁ samaggaṁ bhinditvā — “after causing schism in a harmonious Saṅgha” — the closing verse's own summary of the offense.
āpāyiko nerayiko — “a schismatic remains… in a place of loss, in hell” — the verse's opening image, naming the destination before naming the cause.
yogakkhemā padhaṁsati — “they ruin their sanctuary” — the verse's own image for what a schismatic destroys, echoed and inverted in AN 10.40's closing verse.

The text

The discourse in full: Ānanda's questions, the Buddha's answers, and the closing verse. Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato (CC0, SuttaCentral).

Ānanda's question, and the definition repeated

§1Then Venerable Ānanda went up to the Buddha, bowed, sat down to one side, and said to the Buddha: “Sir, they speak of ‘schism in the Saṅgha’. How is schism in the Saṅgha defined?” “Ānanda, it’s when a mendicant explains what is not the teaching as the teaching … and what was prescribed by the Realized One as not prescribed by the Realized One. On these ten grounds they split off and go their own way. They perform legal acts autonomously and recite the monastic code autonomously. That is how schism in the Saṅgha is defined.”

The cost of schism

§2“But sir, what does someone who has split a harmonious Saṅgha brim with?” “They brim with sin that lasts for an eon.” “But sir, what is the sin that lasts for an eon?” “They burn in hell for an eon, Ānanda.

Closing verse

§3A schismatic remains for the eon in a place of loss, in hell. Taking a stand against the teaching, favoring factions, they ruin their sanctuary. After causing schism in a harmonious Saṅgha, they burn in hell for an eon.”

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Self-check quiz

6 questions. Click an answer to see immediate feedback. No score is recorded — this is for your own checking.

Question 1 of 6
Who questions the Buddha in this discourse?
Correct: B. A new questioner and a new narrative opening, unlike the continuous Upāli exchange running through AN 10.32–38.
Question 2 of 6
How does this discourse handle repeating the definition of schism from AN 10.37?
Correct: B. A repeat acknowledged, not reproduced word for word.
Question 3 of 6
What new information does this discourse add beyond AN 10.37's definition?
Correct: B. Ānanda's follow-up question draws out the consequence AN 10.37 left unstated.
Question 4 of 6
What closes this discourse?
Correct: B. The first closing verse to appear in this chapter.
Question 5 of 6
According to the guide, what signals that this is a fresh scene rather than a continuation of the Upāli conversation?
Correct: B. A fresh narrative frame, matching AN 10.31's own opening formula.
Question 6 of 6
Where is this discourse set?
Correct: D. No location is given, matching the rest of this chapter despite the fresh narrative opening.
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