Aṅguttara Nikāya · Discourse 11.20

Immersion (3rd)

Tatiyasamādhisutta — Anussativagga — the second chapter of the Elevens

Setting
None stated in the source
Speakers
Several mendicants questioning Venerable Sāriputta
Form
The same question and answer as AN 11.18, now addressed to Sāriputta rather than the Buddha
Length
~2 minutes to read
Third of four variations
The same content, this time answered by a senior disciple rather than the Buddha
Difficulty
★★★★☆ — the same demanding immersion, answered by a different teacher

Why this discourse

Several mendicants approach Venerable Sāriputta and ask him the same question already put to the Buddha: whether a mendicant might gain a state of immersion beyond all ordinary perception, and yet still perceive; Sāriputta confirms it, giving the identical explanation already heard from the Buddha in this chapter's earlier discourses.

Reading guide

The teaching in one sentence

The identical immersion beyond all ordinary perception met throughout this chapter, here answered by Sāriputta rather than the Buddha, in exactly the same words: perceiving only that this is peaceful, this is sublime, the stilling of all activities and the ending of craving.

Mendicants choose a disciple this time

Where AN 11.18 had mendicants approach the Buddha directly, this discourse has them approach Sāriputta instead, exchanging the customary greetings before posing the identical question — testing whether the same teaching holds when sought from a senior disciple rather than the source.

A brief, confident answer

Sāriputta's reply is immediate and unqualified: ‘it could be, reverends’ — he does not hedge or defer to the Buddha before answering, but speaks with the same direct authority already demonstrated when Ānanda tested him independently at AN 11.7.

Completing the chiasm

With this discourse, three of this closing set's four combinations are now complete: mendicants asking the Buddha (AN 11.18), the Buddha volunteering to the mendicants (AN 11.19), and mendicants asking Sāriputta (this discourse) — leaving only Sāriputta volunteering the teaching himself, which the chapter's final discourse supplies.

Key terms

āyasmantaṁ sāriputtaṁ upasaṅkamiṁsu — “went up to Venerable Sāriputta” — this discourse's own opening move, choosing a disciple over the Buddha as questioned teacher.
siyā āvuso — “it could be, reverends” — Sāriputta's own immediate, unqualified confirmation.
etaṁ santaṁ etaṁ paṇītaṁ — “this is peaceful, this is sublime” — the identical closing perception shared across every discourse in this set.
āvuso — “reverend” — the mendicants' own form of address to Sāriputta, distinct from ‘sir’ used for the Buddha.
sammodanīyaṁ kathaṁ sāraṇīyaṁ vītisāretvā — “exchanged greetings... when the greetings and polite conversation were over” — the standard courtesy formula opening an approach to a senior disciple.

The text

The discourse in full: several mendicants ask Sāriputta about the same immersion beyond all perception. Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato (CC0, SuttaCentral).

Mendicants ask Sāriputta

§1And then several mendicants went up to Venerable Sāriputta, and exchanged greetings with him. When the greetings and polite conversation were over, they sat down to one side and said to him: “Could it be, reverend, that a mendicant might gain a state of immersion like this? They wouldn’t perceive earth in earth, water in water, fire in fire, or air in air. And they wouldn’t perceive the dimension of infinite space in the dimension of infinite space, the dimension of infinite consciousness in the dimension of infinite consciousness, the dimension of nothingness in the dimension of nothingness, or the dimension of neither perception nor non-perception in the dimension of neither perception nor non-perception. They wouldn’t perceive this world in this world, or the other world in the other world. And they wouldn’t perceive what is seen, heard, thought, known, attained, sought, or explored by the mind. And yet they would still perceive.” “It could be, reverends.” “But how could this be?” “It’s when a mendicant perceives: ‘This is peaceful; this is sublime—that is, the stilling of all activities, the letting go of all attachments, the ending of craving, fading away, cessation, extinguishment.’ That’s how a mendicant might gain a state of immersion like this. They wouldn’t perceive earth in earth, water in water, fire in fire, or air in air. And they wouldn’t perceive the dimension of infinite space in the dimension of infinite space, the dimension of infinite consciousness in the dimension of infinite consciousness, the dimension of nothingness in the dimension of nothingness, or the dimension of neither perception nor non-perception in the dimension of neither perception nor non-perception. They wouldn’t perceive this world in this world, or the other world in the other world. And they wouldn’t perceive what is seen, heard, thought, known, attained, sought, or explored by the mind. And yet they would still perceive.”

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Self-check quiz

6 questions. Click an answer to see immediate feedback. No score is recorded — this is for your own checking.

Question 1 of 6
Who do the mendicants approach with their question in this discourse?
Correct: B. Testing whether the same teaching holds from a senior disciple.
Question 2 of 6
How does Sāriputta respond to the question?
Correct: B. The same direct authority shown when Ānanda tested him at AN 11.7.
Question 3 of 6
What form of address do the mendicants use for Sāriputta, distinct from how they address the Buddha?
Correct: B. Marking the difference between addressing a senior disciple and the Buddha.
Question 4 of 6
According to the guide, which combination of this closing set does this discourse complete?
Correct: B. The third of four combinations, leaving only Sāriputta volunteering for the chapter's final discourse.
Question 5 of 6
What is the content of Sāriputta's explanation?
Correct: B. The identical explanation given throughout this chapter.
Question 6 of 6
Where is this discourse set?
Correct: B. No scene is set beyond the mendicants approaching Sāriputta.
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