Aṅguttara Nikāya · Discourse 3.38

The Four Great Kings (2nd)

Dutiyacatumahārājasutta — Devadūtavagga — the fourth chapter of the Threes

Setting
None stated; the discourse continues from AN 3.1, whose setting at Sāvatthī is understood to hold
Speakers
The Buddha alone, addressing the mendicants
Form
A quoted verse, its rejection, the same verse reassigned, with one clause changed throughout
Length
~2 minutes to read
Northern parallel
Comparable material on the limits of Sakka’s standing appears in the Chinese Āgamas; this reading guide does not assert a specific matching sutra number
Difficulty
★★☆☆☆ — almost identical to AN 3.37, and the difference is the whole discourse

Why this discourse

The same verse, the same verdict, the same reassignment — and a different reason. In AN 3.37 Sakka may not say be like me because he still has greed, hate, and delusion. Here it is because he is not exempt from rebirth, old age, and death, from sorrow, lamentation, pain, sadness, and distress. The Threes rarely repeat a discourse this closely, and when they do the variable is the point.

Reading guide

The teaching in one sentence

The lord of the gods cannot be a model, and there are two separate reasons why, either of which is enough.

What has changed

The narrative frame is gone: no inspection, no ministers, no census. The discourse opens directly with Sakka’s verse and moves straight to the verdict, which means the reader is meant to arrive already knowing AN 3.37 and to notice one clause.

In AN 3.37 the disqualifier was not free of greed, hate, and delusion — a statement about what is still present in Sakka. Here it is not exempt from rebirth, old age, and death, from sorrow, lamentation, pain, sadness, and distress; he is not exempt from suffering — a statement about what is still going to happen to him.

The two are related but not the same. The first names a defilement; the second names a predicament. A being could in principle be told that his mind is impure, which is a reproach, or that his situation is unresolved, which is not. The second discourse chooses the second and it is noticeably gentler in tone while being no less final.

Why it matters that it is Sakka

Sakka is not a foil. Throughout the canon he is the most devout of the gods: he asks the Buddha questions, he is a stream-enterer by some accounts, and he is generally on the right side of every story he appears in. The verse quoted here is him doing his job well, encouraging observance among the gods.

Choosing him is what makes the point general. If the discourse had disqualified a wicked deity it would have said nothing. Disqualifying the best available god says that the issue is structural: as long as birth, aging, and death are still ahead of you, you are not a destination, however admirable you are and however good your advice is.

It also quietly settles the question of where the gods sit in this religion. They are real, they are powerful, they are worth being polite to, and they are fellow travelers with unfinished business. The distance from that to worship is not a short one.

The one who may say it

The perfected mendicant gets the verse, with the qualification stated in the same terms: because that mendicant is exempt from rebirth, old age, and death, from sorrow, lamentation, pain, sadness, and distress. He is exempt from suffering, I say.

The phrase I say, vadāmi, is doing something. This is a claim the Buddha is making on his own authority about somebody else’s condition, and the canon marks such claims rather than leaving them impersonal.

The list of what the mendicant is exempt from is the standard formula for suffering in the first noble truth, given in full. So the credential being asserted is not seniority, learning, or virtue. It is having finished with the thing the whole teaching is about.

Reading the pair

Together the two discourses give a complete answer to a question people ask constantly in religious life: who is worth following? The answer comes in two parts, and either is sufficient to disqualify.

Is there still greed, hate, or delusion in this person? Then their advice may be sound and their example is not. Is this person still subject to aging, sickness, sorrow, and death in the way everybody is? Then whatever they have, it is not the thing that solves that.

The test is severe enough that almost nobody passes it, which is the intended effect. The canon’s standing recommendation to laypeople is not to find a perfected teacher but to rely on the teaching, examine it, and keep good company — see AN 3.65, later in this chapter of the collection, for the fullest statement of that.

Using it

Teach the two discourses as one lesson. Read AN 3.37 in full, then read AN 3.38 aloud and ask a class to find the change; it takes about thirty seconds and they will remember the point far longer than if they were told it.

Then the harder question, which is the reason the pair exists: why would the compilers keep two versions differing by one clause? Because the disqualification is not a single fact about Sakka but a class of facts, and the discourse is showing the class by giving two of its members.

Key terms

aparimutta — “not exempt, not freed from” — the word that replaces AN 3.37’s “not free of greed, hate, and delusion.” It names a predicament rather than a defilement.
jātijarāmaraṇa — “rebirth, old age, and death” — the opening of the standard formula for suffering, given here in full as the thing Sakka has not got past.
sokaparidevadukkhadomanassupāyāsa — “sorrow, lamentation, pain, sadness, and distress” — the rest of that formula, familiar from the first noble truth.
khīṇāsava — “with defilements ended” — the first item in the standard description of a perfected one, the being who may say “be like me.”
vadāmi — “I say” — the Buddha marking a claim as made on his own authority. The canon uses it where a statement about another being’s condition is being asserted rather than reported.

The text

The discourse in full. Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato (CC0, SuttaCentral).

Sakka’s verse

§1–2“Once upon a time, mendicants, Sakka, lord of gods, guiding the gods of the thirty-three, spoke this verse: ‘Whoever wants to be like me would observe the sabbath complete in all eight factors, on the fourteenth and the fifteenth days, and the eighth day of the fortnight, as well as on the fortnightly special displays.’

§3But that verse was poorly sung by Sakka, lord of gods, not well sung; poorly spoken, not well spoken. Why is that? Because Sakka, lord of gods, is not exempt from rebirth, old age, and death, from sorrow, lamentation, pain, sadness, and distress. He is not exempt from suffering, I say.

The same verse, reassigned

§4–5But for a mendicant who is perfected—with defilements ended, who has completed the spiritual journey, done what had to be done, laid down the burden, achieved their heart’s goal, utterly ended the fetter of continued existence, and is rightly freed through enlightenment—it is appropriate to say: ‘Whoever wants to be like me would observe the sabbath, complete in all eight factors, on the fourteenth and the fifteenth days, and the eighth day of the fortnight, as well as on the fortnightly special displays.’

§6Why is that? Because that mendicant is exempt from rebirth, old age, and death, from sorrow, lamentation, pain, sadness, and distress. He is exempt from suffering, I say.”

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Self-check quiz

Ten questions. Click an answer to see immediate feedback. No score is recorded — this is for your own checking.

Question 1 of 10
How does this discourse differ from AN 3.37?
Correct: B. The reader is meant to arrive already knowing AN 3.37 and to notice one clause.
Question 2 of 10
What is the disqualifying reason here?
Correct: B. A statement about what is still going to happen to him, rather than about what is still present in him.
Question 3 of 10
How does the guide distinguish the two reasons?
Correct: A. The second is noticeably gentler in tone while being no less final.
Question 4 of 10
Why does it matter that the figure disqualified is Sakka?
Correct: B. If the discourse had disqualified a wicked deity it would have said nothing.
Question 5 of 10
What does the pair settle about the status of gods in this religion?
Correct: C. The distance from that to worship is not a short one.
Question 6 of 10
What credential does the perfected mendicant have?
Correct: C. Having finished with the thing the whole teaching is about.
Question 7 of 10
What is the guide’s point about the word vadāmi, “I say”?
Correct: B. The canon marks claims about another being’s condition.
Question 8 of 10
What complete answer do the two discourses give together?
Correct: B. Still defiled: sound advice, bad example. Still subject to aging and death: whatever they have does not solve that.
Question 9 of 10
What does the guide say about how severe that test is?
Correct: B. AN 3.65 later in this collection gives the fullest statement of that advice.
Question 10 of 10
Why would the compilers keep two versions differing by one clause?
Correct: C. Which is why the pair says something neither says alone.
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