Aṅguttara Nikāya · Discourse 4.105

Mangoes

Ambasutta — Valāhakavagga — the eleventh chapter of the Fours

Setting
None stated; the Valāhakavagga gives no location for this discourse, and it is addressed to the mendicants directly
Speakers
The Buddha alone, addressing the mendicants
Form
The same pair of variables with a third simile
Length
~2 minutes to read
Northern parallel
The mango simile appears across the Chinese Āgamas; this reading guide does not assert a specific matching sutra number
Difficulty
★★☆☆☆ — the third of three, and the one that adds time

Why this discourse

The third and last of the deportment similes, and the one that adds what the other two could not. A pot conceals and a lake misreports, but a mango ripens. Appearance and reality are not merely mismatched here; they are two processes running on different schedules, and either can be ahead of the other.

Reading guide

The teaching in one sentence

Looking ready and being ready are two processes, and neither waits for the other.

What a mango adds

Skin color is the obvious index of ripeness and it is famously unreliable. A mango can colour while the flesh is still hard, and can stay green while the flesh has gone soft and sweet.

That is a different situation from the pot and the lake. Both of those had a fixed inside and an outside that concealed or misreported it. Here the inside is changing, the outside is changing, and the two changes are not synchronized.

The consequence is that the mismatch is temporary in a way the others are not. An unripe mango that looks ripe will become ripe; a ripe one that looks unripe was unripe not long ago. Time resolves both mixed cells, which is not true of a covered pot.

Reading the mixed cells with time in view

Unripe but seems ripe: a person of impressive carriage who does not understand the four truths. On the mango reading, that person is not a fraud — they are early. The carriage has arrived and the understanding has not yet.

Ripe but seems unripe: understanding without the carriage. On the same reading, the outside will catch up.

That is a gentler picture than either of the previous two similes gives, and it is worth saying that the discourse does not state it. Nothing in the text says the mismatch resolves. What the text supplies is the simile, and the simile carries the implication whether or not the compilers intended it.

A careful reader should hold that lightly. The claim the discourse makes is the same as AN 4.103’s and AN 4.104’s: appearance is not an index. The extra suggestion belongs to the image.

The practice of ripening mangoes

One piece of period knowledge sharpens the simile considerably. Mangoes were and are picked unripe and ripened off the tree, often packed in straw, and the process is unreliable — some fruit colours without softening, some softens without colouring.

So the audience for this simile was not thinking of fruit on a branch. They were thinking of a basket of mangoes in which each one has to be judged individually, by people who did that judging regularly and got it wrong regularly.

That is a good picture of assessing a community of practitioners, which is what the chapter is about.

Closing the group of three

Pots, lakes, mangoes. Three similes, one pair of variables, three accounts of why the outside does not report the inside: it is covered, it is misread, it is on a different schedule.

The Aṅguttara rarely gives three similes for one claim, and when it does the similes are usually doing different work rather than reinforcing. That is the case here, and a reader who takes only one of the three gets one third of what the group offers.

AN 4.106, the next number in the chapter, has no text at all — it is a ghost sutta, and its page explains what that means. After it the chapter changes its pair of variables and does not return to deportment.

Against the rest of the collection

The three discourses together are a sustained argument against a particular way of evaluating people, and it is worth setting them beside the places where the collection evaluates people confidently.

AN 4.73 gave four tests for a true person, all of them about speech and all of them checkable. AN 4.3 required examination before praise or criticism. AN 4.65 endorsed judging by principle. None of those depends on how someone carries themselves.

So the collection is consistent. It asks for assessment and it is specific about what to assess — conduct, speech, consistency over time — and this chapter is the negative half of the same instruction, given three times because the mistake it names is so easy to make.

Key terms

amba — “mango” — picked unripe and ripened off the tree, so that each fruit has to be judged individually.
āma / pakka — “unripe” and “ripe” — the two states, of which skin colour is a famously unreliable index.
āmapakkavaṇṇī — “unripe but of ripe colour” — the compound for the first mixed cell; the mismatch is between colour and flesh.
pāsādika — “impressive” — the deportment variable, the same in all three of these discourses.
yathābhūtaṁ pajānāti — “truly understands” — the second variable, applied to the four noble truths.

The text

The discourse in full: the four mangoes, the four individuals, and each cell defined. The ellipses are the Pāli’s own abbreviation. Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato (CC0, SuttaCentral).

Four mangoes, four individuals

§1“Mendicants, there are these four mangoes. What four? One is unripe but seems ripe, one is ripe but seems unripe, one is unripe and seems unripe, and one is ripe and seems ripe. These are the four mangoes. In the same way, these four individuals similar to mangoes are found in the world. What four? One is unripe but seems ripe, one is ripe but seems unripe, one is unripe and seems unripe, and one is ripe and seems ripe.

Unripe but seems ripe

§2And how is an individual unripe but seems ripe? It’s when an individual is impressive when going out and coming back, when looking ahead and aside, when bending and extending the limbs, and when bearing the outer robe, bowl and robes. But they don’t really understand: ‘This is suffering’ … ‘This is the origin of suffering’ … ‘This is the cessation of suffering’ … ‘This is the practice that leads to the cessation of suffering’. That’s how an individual is unripe but seems ripe. That individual is like a mango that’s unripe but seems ripe, I say.

Ripe but seems unripe

§3And how is an individual ripe but seems unripe? It’s when an individual is not impressive … But they really understand: ‘This is suffering’ …

Unripe and seems unripe

§4And how is an individual unripe and seems unripe? It’s when an individual is not impressive … Nor do they really understand: ‘This is suffering’ …

Ripe and seems ripe

§5And how is an individual ripe and seems ripe? It’s when an individual is impressive … And they really understand: ‘This is suffering’ … These four individuals similar to mangoes are found in the world.”

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Self-check quiz

Ten questions. Click an answer to see immediate feedback. No score is recorded — this is for your own checking.

Question 1 of 10
What does the mango add that the pot and lake could not?
Correct: B. Appearance and reality as two processes on different schedules.
Question 2 of 10
Why is skin colour an unreliable index?
Correct: B. Famously unreliable.
Question 3 of 10
What consequence does the guide draw about the mismatch?
Correct: B. Not true of a covered pot.
Question 4 of 10
How does the first mixed cell read on that account?
Correct: B. A gentler picture than either of the previous similes gives.
Question 5 of 10
How does the guide qualify that reading?
Correct: B. The claim the discourse makes is the same as the other two: appearance is not an index.
Question 6 of 10
What piece of period knowledge sharpens the simile?
Correct: B. By people who did that judging regularly and got it wrong regularly.
Question 7 of 10
Why does the guide call that a good picture of the chapter’s subject?
Correct: B. Which is what the chapter is about.
Question 8 of 10
What three accounts do the similes give of why the outside does not report the inside?
Correct: B. Three similes doing different work rather than reinforcing.
Question 9 of 10
What follows for a reader who takes only one of the three?
Correct: B. The Aṅguttara rarely gives three similes for one claim.
Question 10 of 10
How do these three sit with the collection’s confident evaluations of people?
Correct: B. Given three times because the mistake it names is so easy to make.
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