Aṅguttara Nikāya · Discourse 4.167

Moggallāna’s Practice

Mahāmoggallānasutta — Paṭipadāvagga — the seventeenth chapter of the Fours

Setting
Not stated for this exchange; the two are elsewhere placed at Sāvatthī
Speakers
Venerable Sāriputta and Venerable Mahāmoggallāna
Form
A visit, a question naming the four ways of practice, and a one-line answer
Length
~1 minute to read
Northern parallel
Exchanges between the Buddha’s two chief disciples on their own attainments occur across the early collections; this reading guide does not assert a specific matching sutra number
Difficulty
★★★★☆ — four lines of narrative and one answer that reopens everything the previous discourse just settled

Why this discourse

Sāriputta visits Mahāmoggallāna, recites the four ways of practice exactly as AN 4.166 ranked them, and asks which one freed his mind. The answer: painful practice with swift insight — the path the discourse immediately before this one graded inferior, on one count. One of the two people in the entire canon most consistently held up as foremost took the harder road, by the collection’s own scale.

Reading guide

The teaching in one sentence

Mahāmoggallāna reports that he was freed by the practice this chapter has just ranked below the alternative.

The question, asked precisely

Sāriputta does not ask generally how Mahāmoggallāna practiced. He recites all four ways of practice by name, in the fixed order this chapter has used throughout, and asks: which one of these four ways of practice did you rely on to free your mind from defilements by not grasping?

That is a pointed question from someone who would have known AN 4.166’s ranking as well as any reader of this chapter now does. Asking it in that form invites an answer that can be placed directly against the grading, and the discourse does not soften the invitation.

Anupādāya āsavehi cittaṁ vimuttaṁ, the mind freed from defilements by not grasping, is the collection’s standard description of arahantship. The question is about the highest attainment the tradition names, asked as a direct multiple-choice.

The answer

Reverend Sāriputta… I relied on the painful practice with swift insight to free my mind from defilements by not grasping.

By AN 4.166’s exact grading, that is the path called inferior because of its painfulness — not doubly inferior, but marked down on one count, with nothing held against its speed. Mahāmoggallāna’s swiftness was, by the ranking, unimpeachable. What the ranking counted against him was that the practice hurt.

The answer is given without elaboration, embarrassment, or qualification. Nothing in the text suggests Mahāmoggallāna experienced the grading as a judgment on his path, and nothing suggests Sāriputta received the answer as anything other than a plain report of fact.

What this does to the ranking

This reading guide does not claim the discourse overturns AN 4.166 or declares it wrong. Nothing here says the ranking is false, and the two texts are not in open contradiction — a path can be graded inferior on one count and still be the one that works for a given person.

What the pairing does is refuse to let the ranking function as advice. AN 4.166 described where four combinations stand relative to each other in the abstract; AN 4.167 shows one of the tradition’s two foremost disciples using the lower-graded of the two swift paths and reaching the highest result there is.

Held together, the two discourses make a claim worth stating directly: a scale that ranks ways of practice is not the same thing as a scale that predicts who succeeds by which one. The chapter gives both the scale and a data point that the scale does not explain away.

Who Mahāmoggallāna was

The tradition names Mahāmoggallāna foremost in psychic power, paired constantly with Sāriputta, who is named foremost in wisdom. The two are the Buddha’s chief disciples throughout the canon, and their partnership is treated as a settled fact requiring no introduction here.

That standing is part of why the exchange carries weight. This is not an obscure monastic reporting an idiosyncratic path; it is one of the two most senior disciples in the entire tradition, questioned by the other, giving a plain answer about which of a named set of four ways of practice actually worked for him.

The next discourse gives the same exchange in reverse, and the two together are best read as a pair rather than as two separate data points.

Teaching it

This is one of the shortest discourses in the chapter and one of the most useful to teach alongside AN 4.166 rather than after a gap. The full weight of the answer depends on the reader having the ranking fresh.

The honest question to leave with a class is not which path is better in the abstract — AN 4.166 already answered that, precisely — but what the abstract ranking is for, given that it did not predict or determine what worked for the person best positioned to know.

Key terms

anupādāya vimutta — “freed by not grasping” — the collection’s standard description of arahantship, used here as the shared measure both disciples report against.
dukkhā paṭipadā khippābhiññā — “painful practice with swift insight” — the path Mahāmoggallāna names, graded inferior on one count by the discourse just before this one.
Mahāmoggallāna — the disciple named foremost in psychic power, and Sāriputta’s constant partner throughout the canon.
āvuso — “reverend” — the address the two use for each other, marking this as an exchange between equals rather than teacher and student.
paṭipadā — “way of practice” — recited by Sāriputta in the fixed order this chapter has used since AN 4.161.

The text

The discourse in full: the visit, the question naming all four ways, and the answer. Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato (CC0, SuttaCentral).

Sāriputta asks

§1Then Venerable Sāriputta went up to Venerable Mahāmoggallāna, and exchanged greetings with him. When the greetings and polite conversation were over, Sāriputta sat down to one side and said to Mahāmoggallāna: “Reverend Moggallāna, there are four ways of practice. What four? Painful practice with slow insight, painful practice with swift insight, pleasant practice with slow insight, and pleasant practice with swift insight. These are the four ways of practice. Which one of these four ways of practice did you rely on to free your mind from defilements by not grasping?”

Moggallāna answers

§2“Reverend Sāriputta … I relied on the painful practice with swift insight to free my mind from defilements by not grasping.”

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Self-check quiz

Ten questions. Click an answer to see immediate feedback. No score is recorded — this is for your own checking.

Question 1 of 10
What does Sāriputta ask Mahāmoggallāna?
Correct: B. A direct multiple-choice on the highest attainment the tradition names.
Question 2 of 10
How does Sāriputta frame the question?
Correct: B. Inviting an answer that can be placed directly against AN 4.166’s grading.
Question 3 of 10
What does Mahāmoggallāna answer?
Correct: B. The path AN 4.166 marked inferior on one count — because it was painful.
Question 4 of 10
What did AN 4.166 say about that path’s speed?
Correct: B. Only the painfulness counted against it.
Question 5 of 10
How is the answer delivered?
Correct: B. Nothing suggests either disciple treated the grading as a judgment.
Question 6 of 10
Does this discourse claim AN 4.166’s ranking is wrong?
Correct: B. The two texts are not in open contradiction.
Question 7 of 10
What does the pairing refuse to let the ranking do?
Correct: B. The chapter gives both the scale and a data point the scale does not explain away.
Question 8 of 10
What is Mahāmoggallāna named foremost in?
Correct: B. The Buddha’s two chief disciples throughout the canon.
Question 9 of 10
Why does the exchange carry particular weight?
Correct: B. Not an obscure monastic reporting an idiosyncratic path.
Question 10 of 10
What question does the guide suggest leaving a class with?
Correct: B. AN 4.166 already answered the first question precisely.
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