Aṅguttara Nikāya · Discourse 6.40

With Kimbila

Kimilasutta — Devatāvagga — the fourth chapter of the Sixes

Setting
Near Kimbilā, in the Freshwater Mangrove Wood
Speakers
Venerable Kimbila, questioning the Buddha
Form
Two paired questions and answers, using the identical six-item structure already met at AN 6.32
Length
~1 minute to read
Northern parallel
Reflections on what preserves a teaching's longevity after its founder's passing recur across the Chinese Āgamas; this reading guide does not assert a specific matching sutra number
Difficulty
★☆☆☆☆ — a short dialogue reusing a structure this series has already encountered once

Why this discourse

Kimbila asks a question with real stakes: why does the true teaching sometimes fail to last long after a Buddha's final passing, and what makes it last? The Buddha's answer names the identical six items already met at AN 6.32 — respect for the Teacher, the teaching, the Saṅgha, the training, diligence, and hospitality — but now applied across all four assemblies of the tradition, not mendicants alone, and tied directly to the teaching's institutional survival rather than one individual's decline.

Reading guide

The teaching in one sentence

The true teaching fails to last long after a Buddha's final passing when monks, nuns, laymen, and laywomen lack respect for the Teacher, the teaching, the Saṅgha, the training, diligence, and hospitality; it lasts long when all four assemblies maintain that respect.

The same six items, checked directly, applied to a new scope

Compared word for word against AN 6.32's list — respect for the Teacher, the teaching, the Saṅgha, the training, diligence, hospitality — this discourse names the identical six. What changes is not the content but its scope: AN 6.32 concerned one mendicant's decline, while this discourse concerns whether “the true teaching” itself endures, and specifies all four assemblies — monks, nuns, laymen, laywomen — rather than mendicants alone.

Kimbila's question, and why it matters

The question “what is the cause, what is the reason why the true teaching does not last long” is asked about events after “the final quenching of the Realized One” — a question about the tradition's own long-term future, not about any single practitioner's present conduct. Framing the answer around respect held by the whole community, not any one figure's authority, locates the teaching's survival in a distributed responsibility rather than reliance on any single leader after the Buddha's death.

Symmetry as the whole answer

As at AN 6.31 and several other discourses in this chapter, the answer to “what causes decline” and “what prevents it” is a single list stated twice, once negated and once affirmed. No further elaboration is offered on how respect is cultivated or what erodes it; the discourse trusts the list itself to carry the weight of the answer.

Kimbila as a minor but recurring figure

Kimbila, the discourse's named questioner, gives this text and its setting — near the town of Kimbilā, in the Freshwater Mangrove Wood — their specific identity. He appears elsewhere in the canon as a companion of several senior disciples; here his single recorded question concerns nothing less than the teaching's own institutional future.

Key terms

saddhamma — “the true teaching” — what Kimbila asks about the longevity of, after the Buddha's final passing.
parinibbāna — “final quenching,” “final passing” — the event after which the teaching's survival becomes uncertain, per Kimbila's question.
bhikkhu bhikkhunī upāsaka upāsikā — “monks, nuns, laymen, laywomen” — the four assemblies this discourse addresses together, unlike AN 6.32's mendicant-only scope.
gārava — “respect” — unchanged in content from AN 6.32, now scoped to the whole fourfold community.
ciraṭṭhitika — “lasting long,” “enduring” — the quality of the teaching Kimbila's question concerns.

The text

The discourse in full: Kimbila's two questions, and the Buddha's paired answers. Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato (CC0, SuttaCentral).

Why the teaching fails to last long

§1So I have heard. At one time the Buddha was staying near Kimbilā in the Freshwater Mangrove Wood. Then Venerable Kimbila went up to the Buddha, bowed, sat down to one side, and said to him: “What is the cause, sir, what is the reason why the true teaching does not last long after the final quenching of the Realized One?” “Kimbila, it’s when the monks, nuns, laymen, and laywomen lack respect and reverence for the Teacher, the teaching, the Saṅgha, the training, diligence, and hospitality after the final quenching of the Realized One. This is the cause, this is the reason why the true teaching does not last long after the final quenching of the Realized One.”

Why the teaching lasts long

§2“What is the cause, sir, what is the reason why the true teaching does last long after the final quenching of the Realized One?” “Kimbila, it’s when the monks, nuns, laymen, and laywomen maintain respect and reverence for the Teacher, the teaching, the Saṅgha, the training, diligence, and hospitality after the final quenching of the Realized One. This is the cause, this is the reason why the true teaching does last long after the final quenching of the Realized One.”

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Self-check quiz

Ten questions. Click an answer to see immediate feedback. No score is recorded — this is for your own checking.

Question 1 of 10
What question does Kimbila ask the Buddha?
Correct: B. A question about the tradition's own long-term institutional future.
Question 2 of 10
How does this discourse's six-item list compare to AN 6.32's, checked directly?
Correct: B. The same six items, word for word, applied to a broader scope.
Question 3 of 10
What changes between AN 6.32 and this discourse, if the content is identical?
Correct: B. Same six qualities, applied at the scale of the entire tradition's survival.
Question 4 of 10
What are the four assemblies named in this discourse?
Correct: B. The whole fourfold community, not mendicants alone.
Question 5 of 10
What does locating the answer in the whole community's respect, rather than any single leader, suggest, according to the guide?
Correct: B. Responsibility spread across all four assemblies, not concentrated in one role.
Question 6 of 10
Where is AN 6.40 set?
Correct: B. A location tied to the discourse's named questioner, Kimbila.
Question 7 of 10
What does saddhamma mean?
Correct: B. What Kimbila's question concerns the longevity of.
Question 8 of 10
What does parinibbāna refer to?
Correct: B. The temporal marker Kimbila's question is framed around.
Question 9 of 10
How is the answer structured, according to the guide?
Correct: B. Trusting the list itself to carry the weight of the answer.
Question 10 of 10
Who is Kimbila, according to the guide?
Correct: B. A minor but recurring figure, giving this discourse its specific setting and identity.
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