Majjhima Nikāya · Discourse 103

Is This What You Think Of Me?

Kintisutta

Setting
Near Kusinārā, in the Forest of Offerings, addressed to the mendicants
Speakers
The Buddha and the mendicants
Form
A protocol for keeping harmony — over the teaching, in correction, and in reconciling quarrels.
Length
~13 minutes to read
Northern parallel
No full counterpart is known in the Chinese Āgamas
Difficulty
★★★☆☆ — practical guidance on community and disagreement.

Why this discourse, one-hundred-and-third

The Buddha opens with a question that doubles as a mirror: what do you take me to be? Not someone teaching for food, robes, or status, the monks reply — but one who “teaches out of compassion.” Then, he says, train together in harmony, without dispute. And because disputes will come anyway, he gives a careful, humane protocol for handling disagreement over the teaching, for correcting a fellow practitioner, and for reconciling a community that has fallen to quarrelling.

The title, Kinti (“is this what you think…?”), comes from that opening question. Establishing that his motive is compassion, the Buddha draws the conclusion the monks themselves must own: a teacher who gives everything out of care for them deserves a community that holds together. So the first instruction is to train, all of them, in the things he taught from direct knowledge — the wings of awakening — “in harmony, appreciating each other, without dispute.”

What follows is unusually concrete. The Buddha walks through exactly what to do when two monks disagree about the Dhamma (sorting it by whether they differ on meaning or merely on wording); when a monk commits a fault (and whether, and how, to raise it); and when factions keep reopening old wounds. Throughout, two notes sound together: a deep commitment to preserving the teaching accurately, and an equally deep care that the manner of doing so never wound the community it is meant to serve.

Reading guide

The teaching in one sentence

Because the Buddha teaches out of compassion, his community should train together in the path without dispute — and when disagreement comes, settle it by distinguishing meaning from mere wording, correct a fellow practitioner only when it will genuinely help (and otherwise honour equanimity), and reconcile quarrels by pointing to the goal that no one reaches while quarrelling.

“Out of compassion” — and what it obliges

The opening exchange is deceptively gentle. The Buddha asks whether the monks suppose he teaches for any personal gain — robes, food, lodging, a better rebirth. No, they say: “You are sympathetic and want what is best for us; you teach out of compassion.” By drawing this out of them, the Buddha establishes the ground of everything that follows. If the teaching is a gift of care, then the fitting response is not factionalism but a community that trains together. The remedy for dispute begins with remembering why the teaching was given at all.

Four ways two can disagree about the Dhamma

When two monks differ over the teaching, the Buddha separates two axes: do they differ on the meaning (attha), or only on the phrasing (byañjana)? This gives four cases, handled by a peacemaker who goes privately to the most reasonable monk on each side:

The disagreementHow to handle it
Differ on meaning and phrasingGently note how the disagreement arose; urge both not to dispute; carefully sort what was correctly from incorrectly remembered.
Differ on meaning, agree on phrasingThe same — the meaning matters, so resolve it without quarrel.
Agree on meaning, differ on phrasing“The phrasing is a minor matter — do not dispute over something so minor.”
Agree on bothSimply confirm it; no dispute.

The principle is precise and freeing: guard the meaning carefully, but never let words become a battlefield. Where the substance differs, the discrepancy must be patiently traced — remembering “what was incorrectly memorised as incorrectly memorised, and what was correctly memorised as correctly memorised” — because preserving the teaching accurately is worth the trouble. But where only the wording differs and the meaning is shared, to fight is foolish. So much religious conflict is exactly this: agreement in substance, war over vocabulary.

When and how to correct a fellow monk

If a monk commits a fault, the Buddha’s counsel is strikingly unhurried: “do not be in a hurry to accuse them.” First weigh the situation honestly along two questions — will raising it trouble me? will it hurt them (are they irritable, do they cling to their views)? — and crucially, can I actually draw them from the unskillful and establish them in the skillful? Where there is real prospect of helping, one should speak, even at the cost of one’s own discomfort or the other’s momentary hurt — “that is a minor matter; it is more important that I can establish them in the skillful.” But the last case is the most instructive:

When you cannot help, honour equanimity. If the other is irritable, clinging tightly to their views, and you cannot draw them toward the skillful — then “do not underestimate the value of equanimity regarding such a person.” Correction is justified by its fruit, not by being right. Where it cannot help, restraint and equanimity are themselves the wise response.

This is a remarkable ethic of speech: the decision to correct turns not on whether the other is wrong, but on whether the correction can do good. Being in the right is never, by itself, a licence to speak.

Reconciling a quarrel by pointing to the goal

Finally, when factions keep “bringing up settled issues with contempt, resentful, bitter, and exasperated,” the peacemaker goes to the reasonable members of each side and asks two questions that cut through the heat: If the Buddha knew of this quarrelling, would he criticise it? — Yes. And can one realise extinguishment without giving it up? — No. The quarrel is dissolved not by deciding who started it but by recalling what it costs: the very freedom each monk left home to find. The dispute is measured against the goal, and shrinks.

The humility of the peacemaker

The discourse ends with a quiet portrait of how the one who reconciled the community should speak of it afterward. Asked “Was it you who set those monks right?”, the right answer takes no credit: “I approached the Buddha; he taught me the Dhamma; I explained it to them; hearing it, they were established in the skillful.” In this way the peacemaker “does not glorify themselves or put others down.” Even the good of healing a rift must not become a new occasion for the self to swell. The harmony that the whole discourse serves is preserved, at the last, by the reconciler’s own self-effacement — the teaching, not the teacher, given the credit.

Key terms

kinti — “is this what you think…?”, the opening question. By drawing out that he teaches “out of compassion,” the Buddha grounds the duty of harmony in the very nature of the gift.
attha & byañjana — meaning and phrasing. The two axes for sorting any doctrinal disagreement: guard the meaning carefully, but treat mere wording as “a minor matter” not worth a dispute.
correctly / incorrectly memorised — where the substance genuinely differs, the discrepancy must be patiently traced and the accurate version preserved — the teaching is worth the trouble.
“do not be in a hurry to accuse” — the test for correction: not whether the other is wrong, but whether speaking can actually draw them from the unskillful to the skillful. Being right is no licence to speak.
the value of equanimity — when the other is irritable, clinging, and beyond help, “do not underestimate the value of equanimity.” Where correction cannot help, restraint is the wise response.
measured against the goal — quarrels are reconciled by recalling that the Buddha would criticise them and that no one reaches extinguishment without giving them up. The dispute shrinks beside the goal.
the peacemaker’s humility — the one who reconciles takes no credit: “the Buddha taught me; I explained it.” The good of healing a rift must not swell the self.

The text

The full discourse, abridged where the source repeats the four cases and five scenarios. The opening question, the meaning/phrasing protocol, the ethic of correction, and the reconciliation are given closely. Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato (CC0, SuttaCentral).

“What do you think of me?”

§1–3So I have heard. At one time the Buddha was staying near Kusinārā in the Forest of Offerings, and addressed the mendicants. “Mendicants, is this what you think of me: ‘The ascetic Gotama teaches for the sake of robes, almsfood, lodgings, or some better rebirth’?” “No, sir.” “Then what do you think of me?” “We think: ‘The Buddha is sympathetic and wants what is best for us; he teaches out of compassion.’” “Then each of you should train in the things I have taught from direct knowledge — the four kinds of mindfulness, the four right efforts, the four bases of psychic power, the five faculties, the five powers, the seven awakening factors, and the noble eightfold path — in harmony, appreciating each other, without dispute.”

Disagreement on meaning and phrasing

§4–8“As you train, two mendicants might disagree about the teaching. If they differ on both meaning and phrasing — or on the meaning but not the phrasing — go to the most reasonable monk on each side and say: ‘The venerables differ thus; this is how it comes about; please do not dispute.’ And carefully remember what was incorrectly memorised as incorrectly memorised, and what was correctly memorised as correctly memorised. But if they agree on the meaning and differ only on the phrasing, say: ‘The phrasing is a minor matter; please do not dispute over something so minor.’ And if they agree on both, simply confirm it.”

When and how to correct

§9–14“If a monk commits a fault, do not be in a hurry to accuse them. Consider: will I be troubled, will they be hurt — and can I draw them from the unskillful and establish them in the skillful? If you can help — even at the cost of your own trouble or their hurt — it is appropriate to speak, for that cost is a minor matter beside the good of establishing them in the skillful. But if they are irritable, cling tightly to their views, and you cannot draw them toward the skillful — then do not underestimate the value of equanimity regarding such a person.”

Reconciling a quarrel

§15–16“If the sides keep bringing up settled issues with contempt, resentful and bitter, go to the most reasonable monk on each side and ask: ‘Reverend, would the Buddha criticise this quarrelling?’ ‘Yes, he would.’ ‘And without giving it up, can one realise extinguishment?’ ‘No, one cannot.’”

The peacemaker takes no credit

§17“If others ask that monk, ‘Was it you who drew those mendicants away from the unskillful and established them in the skillful?’, the right answer is: ‘I approached the Buddha; he taught me the Dhamma; I explained it to them; hearing it, they were established in the skillful.’ Answering thus, the monk neither glorifies themselves nor puts others down, and there are no legitimate grounds for criticism.” That is what the Buddha said. Satisfied, the mendicants approved what he said.

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Self-check quiz

Ten questions. Click an answer to see immediate feedback. No score is recorded — this is for your own checking.

Question 1 of 10
What question does the Buddha open with?
Correct: C. The monks answer that he teaches “out of compassion” — and on that ground the whole instruction on harmony rests.
Question 2 of 10
Having established that he teaches out of compassion, what does the Buddha conclude the monks should do?
Correct: A. If the teaching is a gift of care, the fitting response is a community that holds together, not factionalism.
Question 3 of 10
By what two axes does the Buddha sort a disagreement about the teaching?
Correct: D. Attha (meaning) and byañjana (phrasing) give four cases, each handled by a peacemaker going privately to the reasonable monk on each side.
Question 4 of 10
What does the Buddha say when monks agree on the meaning but differ only on the phrasing?
Correct: B. Guard the meaning carefully, but never let mere words become a battlefield — so much conflict is agreement in substance, war over vocabulary.
Question 5 of 10
Where the substance genuinely differs, what must be done?
Correct: C. Preserving the teaching accurately is worth the trouble — meaning is guarded, even as wording is treated lightly.
Question 6 of 10
What is the Buddha’s first counsel when a monk commits a fault?
Correct: A. One weighs whether raising it will trouble oneself or hurt the other — and above all, whether it can draw them toward the skillful.
Question 7 of 10
According to the discourse, what justifies correcting another?
Correct: B. The decision turns not on whether the other is wrong, but on whether the correction can do good.
Question 8 of 10
What should one do about an irritable person who clings to their views and cannot be helped?
Correct: D. Where correction cannot help, restraint and equanimity are themselves the wise response.
Question 9 of 10
How are entrenched, resentful factions reconciled?
Correct: C. The quarrel shrinks beside the very freedom each monk left home to find.
Question 10 of 10
How should the one who reconciled the community speak of it afterward?
Correct: A. The peacemaker “neither glorifies themselves nor puts others down” — the teaching, not the teacher, is given the credit.
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