Saṃyutta Nikāya · Discourse 1.34

There Are None

Nasantisutta

Setting
Near Sāvatthī, in Jeta’s Grove; several Satullapakāyikā deities, then a further exchange with the named mendicant Venerable Mogharāja
Speakers
One or more deities across four verses, then Venerable Mogharāja and the Buddha in a final exchange
Form
A sequence of verses on desire and its cessation, closed by a named mendicant's direct question and the Buddha's answer
Length
~2 minutes to read
Difficulty
★★★★☆ — the closing verses repeat some of this collection's most doctrinally dense material
A named questioner
Venerable Mogharāja, known elsewhere in the canon for a celebrated question of his own, appears here asking a different question entirely

Why this discourse

This discourse opens with a claim about sensual pleasure — nothing among mankind is permanent, and those bound to and intoxicated by sensuous things never return from Death's dominion — and traces the causal chain underlying it: gloom is born of desire, suffering is born of desire, and removing desire removes both in turn. The verses build to a description of one who has fully let go, cut every tie, and become impossible for gods or humans to locate anywhere. At this point Venerable Mogharāja, a named mendicant, asks a pointed question: if such a person can't be seen or found by anyone, are those who still revere them worthy of praise at all?

Reading guide

A causal chain, traced step by step

The verses move through a specific sequence rather than simply asserting a conclusion: desire gives rise to gloom, gloom and desire together give rise to suffering, and removing desire removes gloom, which in turn removes suffering. The logic is presented as a chain of dependency, not a single unexplained claim.

Pretty things are not themselves the problem

One verse draws a distinction easy to overlook: ‘the world's pretty things aren't sensual pleasures — greedy intention is a person's sensual pleasure.’ The pretty things ‘stay just as they are’; what the attentive remove is their own desire for them, not the things themselves.

A verse this collection has met before

The closing description of one who has cut every tie, whom gods and humans cannot find ‘in this life or the next… not in heaven nor in any abode,’ is close to verses already met in this collection at SN 1.20's third compressed verse to the deity Samiddhi encountered — the same image of complete untraceability recurring in a new context.

Mogharāja's question, and a different Mogharāja moment

Venerable Mogharāja is known elsewhere in the wider canon, in the Pārāyanavagga, for a celebrated question of his own about how to regard the world so as to escape Death's notice. Here his question is different: not how to achieve the liberation just described, but whether those who revere someone so thoroughly untraceable are themselves still worthy of respect. The Buddha's answer is unambiguous — yes, and specifically because they have understood the teaching and given up doubt.

Key terms

nasanti — “there are none, there do not exist” — this discourse's title, from its opening claim that no sensual pleasures among mankind are permanent.
domanassaṁ jāyati kāmato — “gloom is born of desire” — the first link in the causal chain the verses trace from desire through to suffering and its removal.
chandarāgo — “greedy intention” — identified as a person's true sensual pleasure, distinguished from the world's pretty things themselves.
chinnagantho — “one whose ties are cut” — the same term already met at SN 1.20, describing someone gods and humans cannot locate anywhere.
mogharājā — Venerable Mogharāja, the named mendicant who questions the Buddha in this discourse's final exchange, known elsewhere in the canon for a different, well-known question of his own.

The text

The discourse in full: verses tracing desire to its cessation, and a named mendicant's closing question. Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato (CC0, SuttaCentral).

Deities arrive; sensual pleasures, and their true cause

§1At one time the Buddha was staying near Sāvatthī in Jeta’s Grove, Anāthapiṇḍika’s Monastery. Then, late at night, several glorious deities of the host of a hundred felicities, lighting up the entire Jeta’s Grove, went up to the Buddha, bowed, and stood to one side. Standing to one side, one deity spoke this verse in the Buddha’s presence:

§2“Among mankind there are no sensual pleasures that are permanent. Here there are sensuous things, bound to which, drunk on which, there’s no coming back. That person doesn’t return from Death’s dominion.”

§3“Gloom is born of desire; suffering is born of desire; when desire is removed, gloom is removed; when gloom is removed, suffering is removed.”

What is actually removed

§4“The world’s pretty things aren’t sensual pleasures. Greedy intention is a person’s sensual pleasure. The world’s pretty things stay just as they are, but the attentive remove desire for them. Give up anger, get rid of conceit, and get past all the fetters. Sufferings don’t torment the one who has nothing, not clinging to name and form. They gave up judgement without falling into conceit; craving for name and form was cut off right here. They cut the ties, untroubled, with no need for hope. Though gods and humans search for them in this life or the next, they never find them, not in heaven nor in any abode.”

Mogharāja asks a question

§5“If neither gods nor humans see one freed in this way,” said Venerable Mogharāja, “in this life or the next, are those who revere that supreme man, who lives for the good of mankind, also worthy of praise?” “The mendicants who revere one freed in this way,” said the Buddha, “are also worthy of praise, Mogharāja. Having understood the teaching and given up doubt, those mendicants slip their chains.”

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Self-check quiz

Ten questions. Click an answer to see immediate feedback. No score is recorded — this is for your own checking.

Question 1 of 10
What does the opening verse claim about sensual pleasures?
Correct: A. The discourse's opening claim, giving it its title.
Question 2 of 10
What causal chain do the verses trace?
Correct: A. A step-by-step dependency, not a single unexplained assertion.
Question 3 of 10
What distinction does one verse draw about 'the world's pretty things'?
Correct: A. Chandarāgo, greedy intention, is what is actually removed, not the things themselves.
Question 4 of 10
What earlier discourse in this collection shares imagery with this discourse's closing description of one who has cut every tie?
Correct: A. The same image of complete untraceability recurring in a new context.
Question 5 of 10
Who asks the Buddha a question in this discourse's closing exchange?
Correct: A. This collection's first discourse in this vagga to name its questioner directly.
Question 6 of 10
What does Mogharāja specifically ask?
Correct: A. A question about the worth of reverence directed at someone unfindable.
Question 7 of 10
How does the Buddha answer Mogharāja's question?
Correct: A. A direct, affirmative answer with a specific reason given.
Question 8 of 10
What is Venerable Mogharāja known for elsewhere in the canon?
Correct: A. A different, well-known question from the one he asks here.
Question 9 of 10
What does 'chandarāgo' mean?
Correct: A. Distinguished in this discourse from the pretty things themselves.
Question 10 of 10
What does 'chinnagantho' mean?
Correct: A. Describing someone gods and humans cannot find anywhere.
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