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Saṃyutta Nikāya · Discourse 12.10

About Gotama

Gotamasutta

Setting
Sāvatthī, Jeta's Grove
Speakers
The Buddha alone, recounting his own pre-awakening reasoning in the first person
Form
The same extended backward-questioning account given in full for Vipassī in SN 12.4, now told by Gotama of himself
Length
~7 minutes to read
Northern parallel
A rough counterpart may exist in the Chinese Saṃyukta-āgama (T99), though this reading guide does not assert a specific matching sutra number
Difficulty
★★★☆☆ — identical in structure to SN 12.4, its interest lying in the shift to first person

Why this discourse

Having given Vipassī's discovery of dependent origination in full, and five more past Buddhas' identical discoveries in a single elided line each, this closing discourse of Buddhavagga does something neither approach could: the Buddha tells his own story, in his own voice. Every step of the reasoning is the same — the same backward question asked twelve times, the same formula marking each breakthrough, the same reversal from arising to cessation — but where Vipassī's account was narrated in the third person, one Buddha addressing his monks about another, Gotama speaks here directly of what happened before his own awakening.

Reading guide

The same content, a different grammatical person

Structurally, this discourse changes almost nothing from SN 12.4; every question, every insight, and every closing formula reappears in the same order, with "Vipassī thought" replaced throughout by "it occurred to me."

A seventh application of the pattern, not a new discovery

Like the five discourses before it, this account applies the same reasoning process to a seventh Buddha in sequence; what distinguishes it isn't new content but who is doing the telling.

A shift that changes how the account lands, without changing its content

Reading six accounts of past Buddhas independently discovering the identical chain, then finally hearing the same discovery in the speaker's own first-person voice, gives the pattern a different weight — this isn't only a claim about legendary predecessors, but about the teacher currently addressing the room.

A closing that completes the chapter's own structure

This discourse ends Buddhavagga, and the source's own closing summary verse lists all ten discourse titles in sequence — the general teaching, the analysis, the naming of practice, and then the seven Buddhas in order, Vipassī through Gotama.

A chapter that grounds an abstract formula in specific tellers

Read across its full ten discourses, Buddhavagga doesn't simply state the twelve-link chain once and move on; it insists on attaching the discovery to particular individuals, seven times over, closing with the one individual actually present to say it himself.

Key terms

pubbeva me… anabhisambuddhassa bodhisattasseva sato — “before my awakening… when I was still unawakened but intent on awakening” — the first-person framing distinguishing this account from the third-person Vipassī narrative.
tassa mayhaṁ… etadahosi — “then it occurred to me” — the recurring first-person marker replacing Vipassī's third-person formula throughout.
kimhi nu kho sati X hoti, kiṁpaccayā X — “when what exists is there X? What is a requirement for X?” — the identical backward question already seen in SN 12.4, now asked by Gotama of himself.
cakkhuṁ udapādi, ñāṇaṁ udapādi… āloko udapādi — “vision arose, knowledge arose… light arose” — the same fivefold breakthrough formula, now describing what arose in the speaker himself.
buddhavaggo paṭhamo — “the first chapter, on the Buddhas” — the untranslated closing marker naming the chapter this discourse completes.

The text

The discourse in full, closing Buddhavagga. The chapter's closing summary verse, listing all ten discourse titles, is a structural index and is not reproduced as running prose here. Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato (CC0, SuttaCentral).

The trouble that prompted the search

§1“Mendicants, before my awakening—when I was still unawakened but intent on awakening—I thought: ‘Alas, this world has fallen into trouble. It’s born, grows old, dies, passes away, and is reborn, yet it doesn’t understand how to escape from this suffering, from old age and death. Oh, when will an escape be found from this suffering, from old age and death?’

Discovering how suffering arises

§2Then it occurred to me: ‘When what exists is there old age and death? What is a requirement for old age and death?’ Then, through rational application of mind, I penetrated with wisdom: ‘When rebirth exists there’s old age and death. Rebirth is a requirement for old age and death.’ Then it occurred to me: ‘When what exists is there rebirth? … continued existence … grasping … craving … feeling … contact … the six sense fields … name and form … consciousness … ‘When what exists are there choices? What is a requirement for choices?’ Then, through rational application of mind, I penetrated with wisdom: ‘When ignorance exists there are choices. Ignorance is a requirement for choices.’ And so, ignorance is a requirement for choices. Choices are a requirement for consciousness. … That is how this entire mass of suffering originates. ‘Origination, origination.’ Such was the vision, knowledge, wisdom, realization, and light that arose in me regarding teachings not learned before from another.

Discovering how suffering ceases

§3Then it occurred to me: ‘When what doesn’t exist is there no old age and death? When what ceases do old age and death cease?’ Then, through rational application of mind, I penetrated with wisdom: ‘When rebirth doesn’t exist there’s no old age and death. When rebirth ceases, old age and death cease.’ Then it occurred to me: ‘When what doesn’t exist is there no rebirth? … continued existence … grasping … craving … feeling … contact … the six sense fields … name and form … consciousness … ‘When what doesn’t exist are there no choices? When what ceases do choices cease?’ Then, through rational application of mind, I penetrated with wisdom: ‘When ignorance doesn’t exist there are no choices. When ignorance ceases, choices cease.’ And so, when ignorance ceases, choices cease. When choices cease, consciousness ceases. … That is how this entire mass of suffering ceases. ‘Cessation, cessation.’ Such was the vision, knowledge, wisdom, realization, and light that arose in me regarding teachings not learned before from another.”

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Self-check quiz

Ten questions. Click an answer to see immediate feedback. No score is recorded — this is for your own checking.

Question 1 of 10
How does this discourse's content compare to SN 12.4's account of Vipassī?
Correct: A. The same questions, insights, and formulas, told from the speaker's own perspective.
Question 2 of 10
Who is the speaker of this account?
Correct: A. A first-person account, distinct from the third-person narration of SN 12.4.
Question 3 of 10
What phrase replaces Vipassī's third-person "etadahosi" formula throughout?
Correct: A. The consistent first-person marker running through the whole account.
Question 4 of 10
What position does this discourse's Buddha occupy in the traditional lineage of seven?
Correct: A. Coming immediately after Kassapa's brief stub in SN 12.9.
Question 5 of 10
What does this discourse close, structurally, within Nidānavagga?
Correct: A. Confirmed by the chapter's closing summary verse listing all ten titles.
Question 6 of 10
What effect does the shift to first person have on the chapter's overall pattern?
Correct: A. A different weight given to the same repeated content.
Question 7 of 10
What is the first link identified working backward from old age and death, matching SN 12.4?
Correct: A. The identical first step in the backward chain, unchanged from Vipassī's account.
Question 8 of 10
How many times total does the pattern established in SN 12.4 get applied across Buddhavagga?
Correct: A. Vipassī in full, five more in elided stubs, and Gotama closing the set.
Question 9 of 10
What formula marks each completed breakthrough insight in this account?
Correct: A. The same fivefold formula already seen in SN 12.4, now describing the speaker's own experience.
Question 10 of 10
Where does the Buddha deliver this account to the monks?
Correct: A. The consistent setting across Buddhavagga.
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Further reading

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