Saṃyutta Nikāya · Discourse 22.38

With Ānanda (2nd)

Dutiyaānandasutta — Natumhākavagga

Setting
Sāvatthī
Speakers
The Buddha, coaching Venerable Ānanda through a more elaborate hypothetical question
Form
The same rehearsal structure as SN 22.37, now divided across three explicit time frames: past, future, and present
Length
~3 minutes to read
Northern parallel
A rough counterpart may exist in the Chinese Saṃyukta-āgama (T99), though this reading guide does not assert a specific matching sutra number
Difficulty
★★★☆☆ — more elaborate than SN 22.37, worth reading as its direct continuation

Why this discourse

This discourse takes SN 22.37's single present-tense observation and unfolds it across all three times. The Buddha's hypothetical question grows correspondingly more elaborate: what things showed evident arising, vanishing, and change while persisting; what things will show these; and what things show them now? Ānanda's answer supplies three parallel descriptions — whatever form has passed, ceased, and perished showed these three characteristics; whatever form is not yet born will show them; and whatever form has been born and appeared shows them currently. The three-times structure makes explicit what SN 22.37 left as a single snapshot: that impermanence characterizes the aggregates not only now but at every point along their entire existence, actual or potential.

Reading guide

A question tripled across three time frames

Where SN 22.37 asked a single question, this discourse asks essentially the same question three times over, once for each time frame: what showed these characteristics in the past, what will show them in the future, and what shows them now. The Buddha poses all three variations together before Ānanda answers, giving the hypothetical exchange a more elaborate, formally structured shape than SN 22.37's single exchange.

The past described through what has already ended

Ānanda's answer for the past time frame is phrased distinctively: whatever form “has passed, ceased, and perished” showed evident arising, vanishing, and change while persisting. The past is characterized not by what it once was in the present moment of its occurrence, but specifically by its having already come to an end — impermanence applied retrospectively.

The future described through what has not yet appeared

The future time frame is described correspondingly: whatever form “is not yet born, and has not yet appeared” will show the same three characteristics once it does arise. This is a striking claim in its own right — that impermanence can be predicated in advance of something that does not yet exist, simply on the grounds that whatever eventually arises will be subject to the same three-part pattern.

The present described through what has already appeared

The present time frame completes the set: whatever form “has been born, and has appeared” shows these three characteristics now, in the ordinary sense already familiar from SN 22.37. Taken together, all three time frames close the same argumentative gap the earlier vagga discourse SN 22.9 opened — that impermanence holds “in the three times,” not merely in whichever moment happens to be observed directly.

Key terms

atītaṁ addhānaṁ — “the past” — the first of the three time frames this discourse's question and answer are divided across.
anāgataṁ addhānaṁ — “the future” — the second time frame, describing what has not yet come to be.
paccuppannaṁ addhānaṁ — “the present” — the third time frame, matching SN 22.37's original single-time observation.
atītaṁ niruddhaṁ vipariṇataṁ — “has passed, ceased, and perished” — the distinctive phrasing describing form's past occurrence, characterized by its having already ended.
anuppannaṁ apātubhūtaṁ — “not yet born, and has not yet appeared” — the phrasing describing form's future occurrence, predicating impermanence of something not yet existing.

The text

The discourse in full. Elided repetitions in each of the three time-frame expositions (feeling, perception, and choices, each following the same pattern spelled out in full for form and consciousness) are given exactly as bilara-data preserves them. Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato (CC0, SuttaCentral).

§1“Ānanda, suppose they were to ask you: ‘Reverend Ānanda, what are the things for which arising, vanishing, and change while persisting were evident? What are the things for which arising, vanishing, and change while persisting will be evident? What are the things for which arising, vanishing, and change while persisting are evident?’ How would you answer?”

§2‘Whatever form has passed, ceased, and perished, its arising, vanishing, and change while persisting were evident. Whatever feeling … perception … choices … consciousness has passed, ceased, and perished, its arising, vanishing, and change while persisting were evident. These the things for which arising, vanishing, and change while persisting were evident.

§3Whatever form is not yet born, and has not yet appeared, its arising, vanishing, and change while persisting will be evident. Whatever feeling … perception … choices … consciousness is not yet born, and has not yet appeared, its arising, vanishing, and change while persisting will be evident. These are the things for which arising, vanishing, and change while persisting will be evident.

§4Whatever form has been born, and has appeared, its arising, vanishing, and change while persisting is evident. Whatever feeling … perception … choices … consciousness has been born, and has appeared, its arising, vanishing, and change while persisting are evident. These are the things for which arising is evident, vanishing is evident, and change while persisting is evident.’ That’s how I’d answer such a question.”

§5“Good, good, Ānanda. Whatever form has passed, ceased, and perished, its arising, vanishing, and change while persisting were evident. Whatever feeling … perception … choices … consciousness has passed, ceased, and perished, its arising, vanishing, and change while persisting were evident. These the things for which arising, vanishing, and change while persisting were evident.

§6Whatever form is not yet born, and has not yet appeared, its arising, vanishing, and change while persisting will be evident. Whatever feeling … perception … choices … consciousness is not yet born, and has not yet appeared, its arising, vanishing, and change while persisting will be evident. These are the things for which arising, vanishing, and change while persisting will be evident.

§7Whatever form has been born, and has appeared, its arising, vanishing, and change while persisting are evident. Whatever feeling … perception … choices … consciousness has been born, and has appeared, its arising, vanishing, and change while persisting are evident. These are the things for which arising is evident, vanishing is evident, and change while persisting is evident. That’s how you should answer such a question.”

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Self-check quiz

Ten questions. Click an answer to see immediate feedback. No score is recorded — this is for your own checking.

Question 1 of 10
How does this discourse's question differ from SN 22.37's?
Correct: A. A more elaborate, formally structured shape than SN 22.37's single exchange.
Question 2 of 10
How is form's past occurrence described in Ānanda's answer?
Correct: A. Characterized by its having already come to an end, applied retrospectively.
Question 3 of 10
How is form's future occurrence described?
Correct: A. A striking claim — predicating impermanence of something that does not yet exist.
Question 4 of 10
What claim does describing the future this way make?
Correct: A. Impermanence predicated in advance of something not yet existing.
Question 5 of 10
How does this discourse relate to SN 22.9's earlier "three times" argument in this book?
Correct: A. Closing the same argumentative gap SN 22.9 opened in Aniccavagga.
Question 6 of 10
How many aggregates does this discourse's three-times structure apply to?
Correct: A. Feeling, perception, and choices are elided but follow the same pattern.
Question 7 of 10
Where is this discourse set?
Correct: A. Continuing the same setting as SN 22.37.
Question 8 of 10
Who is being coached in this discourse?
Correct: A. The same rehearsal partner as SN 22.37.
Question 9 of 10
How does the Buddha respond to Ānanda's three-part answer?
Correct: A. The same confirmation pattern as SN 22.37, extended across all three time frames.
Question 10 of 10
What relationship does this discourse have to SN 22.37?
Correct: A. SN 22.37 gives the simpler, single-time version; this discourse expands it fully.
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