Saṃyutta Nikāya · Discourse 22.47

Ways of Regarding

Samanupassanāsutta — Attadīpavagga

Setting
Sāvatthī
Speakers
The Buddha alone, addressing the assembled mendicants
Form
A sweeping general claim about all self-views, followed by an analysis of the conceit "I am" and its nine future-oriented variants
Length
~3 minutes to read
Northern parallel
A rough counterpart may exist in the Chinese Saṃyukta-āgama (T99), though this reading guide does not assert a specific matching sutra number
Difficulty
★★★★☆ — one of the more doctrinally dense discourses in the vagga, worth reading slowly

Why this discourse

This discourse opens with an unusually sweeping claim: whatever ascetics and brahmins regard various kinds of things as self, all of them, without exception, are regarding one or more of the five grasping aggregates. There is no self-view in the entire range of ascetic and brahmanic speculation, the discourse asserts, that falls outside this fivefold scheme. From there, the discourse traces the psychological mechanics of how this works: an unlearned ordinary person, not rid of the identity-view formula and the conceit “I am,” experiences the five faculties (eye through body) and, struck by feelings born of contact with ignorance, generates a specific list of nine self-referential and future-oriented thoughts — a list that appears, with variations, at several points across the canon's treatment of speculative views about personal continuity.

Reading guide

A totalizing claim about the scope of self-view

The discourse's opening move covers extraordinary ground in a single sentence: every ascetic and brahmin who regards anything at all as self is, in every case, regarding the five grasping aggregates or one of them. This is not a claim about Buddhist practitioners specifically but about the entire field of contemporary religious and philosophical speculation on selfhood, asserting that it all reduces, without remainder, to the same fivefold classificatory scheme this book has been using throughout.

From the fourfold formula to the conceit "I am"

The discourse then narrows to its psychological analysis: someone not rid of the fourfold self-identification formula is, by that very fact, not rid of the conceit “I am” (asmimāna). As long as that conceit persists, the five faculties (the eye, ear, nose, tongue, and body) are “conceived” — taken up as belonging to or constituting a self — along with the mind, ideas, and what the discourse calls “the element of ignorance.”

A specific list of nine self-referential thoughts

Struck by feelings born of contact with ignorance, an unlearned ordinary person generates a specific sequence of nine thoughts: ‘I am’, ‘I am this’, ‘I will be’, ‘I will not be’, ‘I will have form’, ‘I will be formless’, ‘I will be percipient’, ‘I will not be percipient’, ‘I will be neither percipient nor non-percipient’. This sequence moves from a bare present-tense assertion of existence through increasingly specific speculations about the nature of a future self — embodied or formless, conscious or unconscious in various ways.

The faculties stay put; only the response to them changes

The discourse's resolution is precise: the five faculties themselves “stay right where they are” — nothing about sensory experience itself needs to change. What changes for a learned noble disciple is that ignorance about them is given up and knowledge arises instead, and with that shift, none of the nine self-referential thoughts arises any longer. The problem, on this discourse's account, was never the faculties themselves but the ignorance interpreting them.

Key terms

yena yena hi maññanti tato taṁ hoti aññathā — the discourse's opening scope claim — whatever self-view any ascetic or brahmin holds, it reduces to one or more of the five grasping aggregates.
asmimāna — “the conceit ‘I am’” — the underlying self-referential conceit this discourse traces back to the fourfold identity-view formula.
avijjādhātu — “the element of ignorance” — named alongside the five faculties and the mind as present when the conceit “I am” has not been given up.
avijjāsamphassajena vedayitena phuṭṭho — “struck by feelings born of contact with ignorance” — the discourse's account of what immediately precedes the arising of the nine self-referential thoughts.
bhavissāmi, na bhavissāmi — “I will be”, “I will not be” — two of the nine thoughts, moving speculation from the present into explicit future-oriented existential questions.

The text

The discourse in full. Three elided repetitions in the opening exposition (feeling, perception, and choices, each following the same formula spelled out in full for form and consciousness) are given exactly as bilara-data preserves them. Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato (CC0, SuttaCentral).

§1“Mendicants, whatever ascetics and brahmins regard various kinds of things as self, all regard the five grasping aggregates, or one of them. What five? It’s when an unlearned ordinary person has not seen the noble ones, and is neither skilled nor trained in the teaching of the noble ones. They’ve not seen true persons, and are neither skilled nor trained in the teaching of the true persons. They regard form as self, self as having form, form in self, or self in form. They regard feeling … perception … choices … consciousness as self, self as having consciousness, consciousness in self, or self in consciousness.

§2So they’re not rid of this way of regarding things, and the conceit ‘I am’. As long as they’re not rid of the conceit ‘I am’, the five faculties are conceived—the eye, ear, nose, tongue, and body. The mind, ideas, and the element of ignorance are all present. Struck by feelings born of contact with ignorance, an unlearned ordinary person thinks ‘I am’, ‘I am this’, ‘I will be’, ‘I will not be’, ‘I will have form’, ‘I will be formless’, ‘I will be percipient’, ‘I will not be percipient’, ‘I will be neither percipient nor non-percipient’.

§3The five faculties stay right where they are. But a learned noble disciple gives up ignorance about them and gives rise to knowledge. With the fading away of ignorance and the arising of knowledge, they don’t think ‘I am’, ‘I am this’, ‘I will be’, ‘I will not be’, ‘I will have form’, ‘I will be formless’, ‘I will be percipient’, ‘I will be non-percipient’, ‘I will be neither percipient nor non-percipient’.”

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Self-check quiz

Ten questions. Click an answer to see immediate feedback. No score is recorded — this is for your own checking.

Question 1 of 10
What sweeping claim opens this discourse?
Correct: A. A totalizing claim covering the entire field of contemporary religious speculation on selfhood.
Question 2 of 10
What does the discourse claim persists as long as the fourfold identity-view formula is not given up?
Correct: A. The conceit's persistence is tied directly to the fourfold formula's persistence.
Question 3 of 10
What precedes the arising of the nine self-referential thoughts, according to this discourse?
Correct: A. Avijjāsamphassajena vedayitena phuṭṭho — the discourse's precise causal account.
Question 4 of 10
What is the first of the nine thoughts this discourse lists?
Correct: A. The bare present-tense assertion opening the sequence of nine.
Question 5 of 10
How does the sequence of nine thoughts develop as it continues?
Correct: A. Embodied or formless, conscious or unconscious in various specific ways.
Question 6 of 10
What does this discourse claim happens to the five faculties for a learned noble disciple?
Correct: A. The problem was never the faculties themselves but the ignorance interpreting them.
Question 7 of 10
What replaces ignorance for a learned noble disciple, according to this discourse?
Correct: A. With ignorance's fading and knowledge's arising, none of the nine thoughts arises any longer.
Question 8 of 10
How many aggregates does this discourse's opening formula apply to?
Correct: A. Feeling, perception, and choices are elided but follow the same pattern.
Question 9 of 10
Where is this discourse set?
Correct: A. Continuing the same setting as the vagga's other discourses.
Question 10 of 10
What discourse comes immediately after this one?
Correct: A. A precise doctrinal definition following this discourse's dense psychological analysis.
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