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Saṃyutta Nikāya · Discourse 22.74

Origin

Samudayasutta — Khajjanīyavagga

Setting
Sāvatthī
Speakers
The Buddha alone, addressing the assembled mendicants
Form
The identical unlearned/learned contrast as SN 22.73, now built around a set of five terms rather than three
Length
under a minute to read
Northern parallel
A rough counterpart may exist in the Chinese Saṃyukta-āgama (T99), though this reading guide does not assert a specific matching sutra number
Difficulty
★☆☆☆☆ — brief, extending SN 22.73's triad by two further terms

Why this discourse

This discourse extends SN 22.73's compressed contrast by adding two further terms before gratification, drawback, and escape: origin (samudaya) and disappearance (atthaṅgama). The unlearned/learned structure stays exactly as compressed as SN 22.73's, but the set of understanding now being contrasted grows from three items to five, gathering into one sentence several of the analytical categories this book has developed separately — origin and cessation recall SN 22.56's four rounds, while gratification, drawback, and escape recall SN 22.26-28.

Reading guide

Two new terms added before the familiar triad

Where SN 22.73 named only gratification, drawback, and escape, this discourse prefixes two further terms: origin and disappearance. The unlearned ordinary person now fails to understand five things about each aggregate; the learned noble disciple understands all five.

A compressed echo of SN 22.56's four rounds

Origin and disappearance (or cessation) are two of the four items SN 22.56 spelled out in precise, per-aggregate detail — form originating from fuel, feeling and perception and choices from contact, consciousness from name and form. This discourse does not repeat those specific conditions; it simply names the categories, assuming the reader can supply the detail from SN 22.56 if needed.

Five terms in one sentence, still no elaboration

Despite doubling the number of items from SN 22.73's three to this discourse's five, the discourse's overall structure remains just as compressed — a single sentence for the unlearned, a single sentence for the learned, with no further explanation of what origin, disappearance, gratification, drawback, or escape actually amount to for any given aggregate.

A pattern this vagga will continue to compress further

SN 22.75 immediately after this discourse will state only the positive half of this same five-term contrast, dropping the unlearned/learned comparison structure entirely — continuing this vagga's pattern of presenting the same content through progressively different compressions.

Key terms

samudaya — “origin” — the first of two new terms this discourse adds, recalling SN 22.56's four rounds.
atthaṅgama — “disappearance” — the second new term, paired with origin as the aggregate's arising and passing.
assāda, ādīnava, nissaraṇa — “gratification, drawback, escape” — the same triad from SN 22.73, unchanged, now following the two new terms.
assutavā puthujjano — “unlearned ordinary person” — the same figure from SN 22.73, now lacking understanding of five things rather than three.
sutavā ariyasāvako — “learned noble disciple” — the same figure from SN 22.73, now possessing the fuller five-part understanding.

The text

The discourse in full. Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato (CC0, SuttaCentral).

§1At Sāvatthī. “Mendicants, an unlearned ordinary person doesn’t truly understand the origin, the disappearance, the gratification, the drawback, and the escape when it comes to form, feeling, perception, choices, and consciousness. A learned noble disciple does truly understand the origin, the disappearance, the gratification, the drawback, and the escape when it comes to form, feeling, perception, choices, and consciousness.”

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Self-check quiz

Ten questions. Click an answer to see immediate feedback. No score is recorded — this is for your own checking.

Question 1 of 10
What two terms does this discourse add before SN 22.73's triad?
Correct: A. Extending the set from three items to five.
Question 2 of 10
What earlier discourse do origin and disappearance recall?
Correct: A. This discourse names the categories without repeating SN 22.56's specific per-aggregate detail.
Question 3 of 10
How does this discourse's level of elaboration compare to SN 22.73's?
Correct: A. No further explanation of what origin, disappearance, gratification, drawback, or escape amount to.
Question 4 of 10
What will SN 22.75 do with this same five-term set?
Correct: A. Continuing this vagga's pattern of presenting the same content through different compressions.
Question 5 of 10
How many aggregates does this discourse's contrast apply to?
Correct: A. Named together as a group, with no elision needed given the discourse's brevity.
Question 6 of 10
Where is this discourse set?
Correct: A. Continuing the same setting as SN 22.73.
Question 7 of 10
Who speaks in this discourse?
Correct: A. A direct teaching with no narrative frame, as in SN 22.73.
Question 8 of 10
What discourse comes immediately after this one?
Correct: A. A further compression of this discourse's already brief structure.
Question 9 of 10
Does this discourse explain what "origin" means for each specific aggregate?
Correct: A. The category is named, not explained, in this compressed form.
Question 10 of 10
What structure does this discourse share with SN 22.73?
Correct: A. The identical contrast structure, now applied to a larger set of terms.
Answered 0 of 10 · Correct 0

Further reading

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