Saṃyutta Nikāya · Discourse 22.85

With Yamaka

Yamakasutta — Theravagga

Setting
Sāvatthī, Jeta's Grove, Anāthapiṇḍika's monastery
Speakers
Venerable Sāriputta corrects Venerable Yamaka's misconception, after other mendicants fail to dissuade him
Form
An escalating dialogue — peer correction, failed persuasion, Sāriputta's intervention, an exhaustive dialectic, and an extended simile
Length
~8 minutes to read
Northern parallel
A rough counterpart may exist in the Chinese Saṃyukta-āgama (T99), though this reading guide does not assert a specific matching sutra number
Difficulty
★★★★★ — one of the canon's most rigorous and famous philosophical demonstrations

Why this discourse

This discourse addresses, head-on, a specific misreading of the Buddha's teaching: the mendicant Yamaka has concluded that an arahant, once the body breaks up, is simply “annihilated and destroyed…and doesn't exist after death.” Ordinary peer correction fails completely — Yamaka obstinately insists on his view even after being told he is misrepresenting the Buddha. Sāriputta is called in specifically, and what follows is one of the canon's most rigorous demonstrations: that a “Realized One” cannot be found or identified even in this very life, which makes the entire question of existing or not existing after death malformed from the start. The discourse closes with the famous simile of a murderer who serves a wealthy man for years before striking.

Reading guide

Peer correction fails; a senior disciple is called in

Several mendicants hear Yamaka's view, confront him directly, and tell him plainly: “don't say that, Yamaka! Don't misrepresent the Buddha…the Buddha would not say that.” Yamaka simply refuses to be moved. Only once ordinary correction has demonstrably failed do the mendicants turn to Sāriputta specifically, asking him to intervene “out of sympathy.”

An exhaustive dialectic: the Realized One cannot be found

Sāriputta's method goes far beyond the standard fourfold self-identification formula used elsewhere in this book. After confirming the aggregates' impermanence, he asks whether the label “realized one” applies to an aggregate, then whether it applies in relation to an aggregate, apart from an aggregate, to one who has that aggregate, and to one who is without it — five distinct configurations run across all five aggregates. Yamaka answers no to every single one. The conclusion follows directly: since a Realized One cannot be found as a genuine fact even now, in this very life, the question of whether that Realized One exists or doesn't exist after death was never well-formed to begin with.

The famous murderer simile

Once Yamaka has given up his misconception, Sāriputta offers a further simile to sharpen the point: a person wanting to kill a wealthy, well-guarded householder cannot simply attack by force, so instead befriends him, serves him faithfully for years, earns his complete trust — and only then, catching him alone, kills him with a knife. Sāriputta asks: wasn't that person already a killer from the very moment they first offered to serve, even though the householder didn't know it? The aggregates function the same way for an unlearned person — a “killer” not recognized as such, attracting trust and attachment while quietly carrying suffering the whole time.

Sixty terms and sixty minds, closing in freedom

The discourse's closing movement runs the full vocabulary of this book's aggregates literature at once — self-identification, impermanence, suffering, not-self, conditioned, and now killer, each stated first for the unlearned person and then negated for the learned noble disciple — before Yamaka's own final words: after hearing this teaching, “my mind is freed from the defilements by not grasping.”

Key terms

vinipātitañceva vinaṭṭhañca — “annihilated and destroyed” — Yamaka's original mistaken description of an arahant's fate after death, the misconception this entire discourse corrects.
rūpasmiṁ tathāgato ti samanupassasi — “do you consider that the label 'realized one' applies to form?” — the opening question of Sāriputta's exhaustive fivefold dialectic.
na h'idaṁ, āvuso, tathāgato saccato thetato upalabbhati — “a Realized One is not found by you as a genuine fact” — Sāriputta's conclusion, closing the dialectic before the question of after-death existence can even be coherently posed.
vadhaka — “killer” — the term applied to each aggregate in the discourse's closing simile, alongside impermanent, suffering, not-self, and conditioned.
anupādāya āsavehi cittaṁ vimuttaṁ — “my mind is freed from the defilements by not grasping” — Yamaka's own closing testimony, confirming his complete change of understanding.

The text

The discourse in full, including the complete murderer simile. Elided repetitions across the dialectic (feeling, perception, and choices, spelled out in full for form and consciousness where the source does so) are given exactly as bilara-data preserves them. Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato (CC0, SuttaCentral).

§1Now at that time a mendicant called Yamaka had the following harmful misconception: “As I understand the Buddha’s teaching, a mendicant who has ended the defilements is annihilated and destroyed when their body breaks up, and doesn’t exist after death.”

§2“Don’t say that, Yamaka! Don’t misrepresent the Buddha, for misrepresentation of the Buddha is not good. And the Buddha would not say that.” But even though admonished by those mendicants, Yamaka obstinately stuck to that misconception and insisted on stating it.

§3What do you think, Reverend Yamaka? Do you consider that the label ‘realized one’ applies to form?” “No, reverend.” “Do you consider that the label ‘realized one’ applies to feeling?” …

§4“What do you think, Reverend Yamaka? Do you consider that the label ‘realized one’ applies in relation to form?” “No, reverend.” “Do you consider that the label ‘realized one’ applies apart from form?” “No, reverend.” “Do you consider that the label ‘realized one’ applies in relation to feeling?” …

§5“In that case, Reverend Yamaka, since a realized one is not found by you as a genuine fact in this very life, is it cogent for you to declare: ‘As I understand the Buddha’s teaching, a mendicant who has ended the defilements is annihilated and destroyed when their body breaks up, and doesn’t exist after death.’?”

§6“Reverend Sāriputta, in my ignorance, I used to have that misconception. But now that I’ve heard the teaching from Venerable Sāriputta, I’ve given up that misconception, and I’ve comprehended the teaching.”

§7Suppose there was a householder or householder’s son who was rich, with a lot of money and great wealth, and a bodyguard for protection. Then along comes a person who wants to harm, injure, and threaten him, and take his life. They’d think: ‘This householder or householder’s son is rich, with a lot of money and great wealth, and a bodyguard for protection. It won’t be easy to take his life by force. Why don’t I get close to him, then take his life?’ So he goes up to that householder or householder’s son and says: ‘Sir, I would serve you.’ They would serve that householder or householder’s son. They’d get up before him and go to bed after him, and be obliging, behaving nicely and speaking politely. The householder or householder’s son would consider them as a friend and companion, and come to trust them. But when that person realizes that they’ve gained the trust of the householder or householder’s son, then, when they know he’s alone, they’d take his life with a sharp knife.

§8What do you think, Yamaka? When that person went to the householder or householder’s son and offered to serve him, weren’t they a killer then, though he didn’t know that this was his killer? And when they got up before him and went to bed after him, being obliging, behaving nicely and speaking politely, weren’t they a killer then, though he didn’t know that this was his killer? And when, knowing he was alone, they took his life with a sharp knife, weren’t they a killer then, though he didn’t know that this was his killer?” “Yes, reverend.” “In the same way, an unlearned ordinary person has not seen the noble ones, and is neither skilled nor trained in the teaching of the noble ones. They’ve not seen true persons, and are neither skilled nor trained in the teaching of the true persons.

§9They don’t truly understand form—which is a killer—as a killer. They don’t truly understand feeling … perception … choices … consciousness—which is a killer—as a killer.

§10They truly understand form—which is a killer—as a killer. They truly understand feeling … perception … choices … consciousness—which is a killer—as a killer.

§11And when you’re not attracted to and don’t grasp these five grasping aggregates, they lead to your lasting welfare and happiness.” “Reverend Sāriputta, this is how it is when you have such venerables as spiritual companions to advise and instruct you out of kindness and sympathy. And after hearing this teaching by Venerable Sāriputta, my mind is freed from the defilements by not grasping.”

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Self-check quiz

Ten questions. Click an answer to see immediate feedback. No score is recorded — this is for your own checking.

Question 1 of 10
What misconception does Yamaka hold at the start of this discourse?
Correct: A. The specific misreading this entire discourse is built to correct.
Question 2 of 10
What happens when ordinary mendicants first try to correct Yamaka?
Correct: A. Only after this failure do the mendicants turn to Sāriputta specifically.
Question 3 of 10
What five configurations does Sāriputta's dialectic run across each aggregate?
Correct: A. A far more exhaustive dialectic than the standard fourfold self-identification formula used elsewhere.
Question 4 of 10
What conclusion does Sāriputta draw from Yamaka's answers?
Correct: A. The question dissolves rather than being answered with one of the four positions.
Question 5 of 10
What does the murderer simile illustrate?
Correct: A. A person can be a killer from the moment they first offer to serve, even before the victim recognizes it.
Question 6 of 10
What new term does the discourse add to the standard list of impermanent, suffering, not-self, and conditioned?
Correct: A. Directly connecting the philosophical dialectic to the simile that follows it.
Question 7 of 10
What does Yamaka say at the discourse's close?
Correct: A. A complete reversal from his opening misconception, confirmed in his own words.
Question 8 of 10
Who first identifies Yamaka's misconception and confronts him about it?
Correct: A. Sāriputta is only brought in after this initial peer correction fails.
Question 9 of 10
How many aggregates does Sāriputta's dialectic apply to?
Correct: A. Each configuration is run across all five aggregates in turn.
Question 10 of 10
Where is this discourse set?
Correct: A. Sāriputta is described as staying here at the discourse's opening.
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