Saṃyutta Nikāya · Discourse 22.98

Plain Version

Suddhikasutta — Pupphavagga

Setting
Sāvatthī
Speakers
An unnamed mendicant questioning the Buddha; the Buddha's answer
Form
The bare question-and-answer alone, with no simile, gesture, or narrative attached
Length
The shortest discourse in this vagga
Northern parallel
No known direct parallel; its brevity is a feature of the Pali collection's own organizing method
Difficulty
Very approachable — there is nothing beyond the question and answer themselves

Why this discourse

Titled "Plain Version" (Suddhika) in the source text itself — this discourse takes the identical question-and-answer shared with SN 22.96 and SN 22.97, but strips away the lump of dung, the fingernail dirt, and the closing formula alike, leaving only the bare denial on its own.

Reading guide

What "plain" means here

The Pali title Suddhika, rendered "Plain Version," marks this discourse as a deliberately unadorned restatement — the same mendicant's question about permanence, and the same denial, without any accompanying object, gesture, or narrative frame.

Where SN 22.96 supplies a lump of cow dung and a wheel-turning monarch's story, and SN 22.97 supplies a fingernail's worth of dirt, SN 22.98 supplies nothing beyond the question and the answer.

A method visible across the triad

Reading SN 22.96, 22.97, and 22.98 together makes explicit what the collection's editors were doing: presenting one core teaching first with an elaborate illustration, then a minimal one, then none at all — moving from image to bare statement.

This stripped-down placement is itself instructive: once an insight has been shown through images at two different scales, the collection trusts it to stand without any image at all.

The content of the bare question

"Is there any form at all that's permanent, everlasting, eternal, imperishable, and will last forever and ever?" — asked and answered identically for feeling, perception, choices, and consciousness — the same fivefold negation found throughout this short run of discourses.

Its place in Pupphavagga

This is the exact numerical and thematic midpoint of the vagga's ten discourses — after the two similes of instability (river, foam-lump-and-companions) and before the two leash similes and the closing Adze and Impermanence discourses, this bare restatement functions as a brief pause between two more elaborately imaged pairs.

Key terms

suddhika — plain, bare, unmixed — the title marking this discourse's stripped-down form
nicca — permanent — the quality denied of every aggregate
dhuva — everlasting, stable — paired with nicca in the fourfold denial formula
sassata — eternal — a further term in the same formula
avipariṇāmadhamma — not subject to change — the final qualifier in the fourfold denial

The text

The complete bare question-and-answer, with no accompanying simile or gesture. Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato (CC0, SuttaCentral).

§1At Sāvatthī. Seated to one side, that mendicant said to the Buddha: “Sir, is there any form at all that’s permanent, everlasting, eternal, imperishable, and will last forever and ever? Is there any feeling … perception … choices … consciousness at all that’s permanent, everlasting, eternal, imperishable, and will last forever and ever?”

§2“Mendicant, there is no form at all that’s permanent, everlasting, eternal, imperishable, and will last forever and ever. There’s no feeling … perception … choices … consciousness at all that’s permanent, everlasting, eternal, imperishable, and will last forever and ever.”

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Self-check quiz

Ten questions. Click an answer to see immediate feedback. No score is recorded — this is for your own checking.

Question 1 of 10
What does the Pali title Suddhika mean?
Correct: A. Marking this discourse's deliberately stripped-down form.
Question 2 of 10
What does this discourse include that SN 22.96 and 22.97 do not share?
Correct: A. The bare question-and-answer alone, with no illustration attached.
Question 3 of 10
What question is asked about each of the five aggregates?
Correct: A. The same fivefold negation found throughout this run of discourses.
Question 4 of 10
What pattern do SN 22.96, 22.97, and 22.98 form when read together?
Correct: A. Moving from image to bare statement across the three discourses.
Question 5 of 10
Where in Pupphavagga does this discourse fall?
Correct: A. A brief pause between two more elaborately imaged pairs of discourses.
Question 6 of 10
What is denied of form in this discourse?
Correct: A. The identical denial applied to all five aggregates in turn.
Question 7 of 10
Why might the collection place a bare, imageless discourse here?
Correct: A. Trusting the teaching to stand on its own after two illustrated versions.
Question 8 of 10
How does this discourse's length compare to others in Pupphavagga?
Correct: A. Consisting of only the bare question and answer, nothing more.
Question 9 of 10
Which aggregates receive this same denial?
Correct: A. The fivefold pattern repeated exactly as in SN 22.96 and 22.97.
Question 10 of 10
What comes immediately after this discourse in the vagga?
Correct: A. Continuing Pupphavagga's own sequence toward its close.
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