The bare opening question alone, mirroring SN 24.13's own minimal treatment
Length
Under a minute to read
Northern parallel
A rough counterpart may exist in the Chinese Saṃyukta-āgama (T99), though this reading guide does not assert a specific matching sutra number
Difficulty
★☆☆☆☆ — trivially brief on its own, best read as SN 24.13's direct completion
Why this discourse
Completes the soul-body pair SN 24.13 opened, closing this vagga's third pair of undetermined questions with the identical minimal treatment: the bare claim that soul and body are two separate things, the sixth of the ten classic undetermined questions.
Reading guide
The mirror claim
"The soul is one thing, the body another" (aññaṁ jīvaṁ aññaṁ sarīraṁ) — SN 24.13's direct opposite: rather than identity, a strict separation between the animating life-principle and the physical body.
A dualist implication
If soul and body are genuinely separate things, the possibility opens that the soul might survive the body's destruction — the structural mirror of SN 24.13's materialist implication, though again this discourse states only a metaphysical claim, not an explicit position on the afterlife.
Three pairs now complete
With this discourse, this vagga has completed three of its five pairs (eternal/not-eternal, finite/infinite, soul-body same/different), all reduced by this point to the same minimal treatment — the bare claim alone, everything else supplied by memory of SN 24.9's fuller template.
What remains: the Realized One's own fourfold question
The final pair of the traditional ten undetermined questions is not really a pair at all but a foursome: whether a realized one (tathāgata) exists after death, doesn't exist, both, or neither — the most famous single item on the traditional list, and the subject of this vagga's remaining four discourses.
Key terms
aññaṁ jīvaṁ aññaṁ sarīraṁ — the soul is one thing, the body another — this discourse's claim, the direct opposite of SN 24.13's
jīva/sarīra — soul, life-principle / body — the same pair of terms examined from the opposite direction
peyyāla — an elision mark — compressing this discourse to its bare opening line, as with SN 24.13
upādāya... abhinivissa — grasping... and insisting on — the formula this discourse's compression trusts the reader to supply
tathāgato paraṁ maraṇā — a realized one after death — the subject of this vagga's next four discourses, its final and most famous undetermined question
The text
The complete discourse as bilara-data preserves it: the opening question alone. Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato (CC0, SuttaCentral).
§1At Sāvatthī. “Mendicants, when what exists, because of grasping what and insisting on what, does the view arise: ‘The soul is one thing, the body another’?” …
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Self-check quiz
Ten questions. Click an answer to see immediate feedback. No score is recorded — this is for your own checking.
Question 1 of 10
What claim does this discourse examine?
Correct: A. SN 24.13's direct opposite, completing the soul-body pair.
Question 2 of 10
What dualist implication follows if soul and body are genuinely separate?
Correct: A. The structural mirror of SN 24.13's materialist implication.
Question 3 of 10
How many of this vagga's five pairs of undetermined questions are complete after this discourse?
Correct: A. Moving next to the Realized One's fourfold question.
Question 4 of 10
What is unusual about the traditional list's final grouping, compared to the three pairs before it?
Correct: A. The most famous single item on the traditional list of undetermined questions.
Question 5 of 10
How many discourses in this vagga does the Realized One's fourfold question occupy?
Correct: A. This vagga's remaining four discourses, closing the entire set.
Question 6 of 10
What does bilara-data preserve for this discourse beyond its opening question?
Correct: A. The same compression level established across the finite/infinite and soul-body pairs.
Question 7 of 10
Where is this discourse set?
Correct: A. Matching the setting of most of this book's discourses.
Question 8 of 10
What Pāli term names the animating life-principle in this pair?
Correct: A. Paired against sarīra, the physical body.
Question 9 of 10
What discourse comes next, opening the vagga's final question?
Correct: A. The first of four discourses on the Realized One's post-death status.
Question 10 of 10
Which discourse's fuller treatment does this compression still rely on?
Correct: A. This vagga's own fullest treatment of the undetermined-questions template.
