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Saṃyutta Nikāya · Discourse 42.3

A Warrior

Yodhājīvasutta — Gāmaṇivagga

Setting
Not restated in this discourse
Speakers
A warrior chief (Yodhājīva) questioning the Buddha
Form
The identical three-times-refused, then-answered structure as SN 42.2, applied to a different guild belief
Length
~1 minute to read
Northern parallel
A rough counterpart may exist in the Chinese Saṃyukta-āgama (T99), though this reading guide does not assert a specific matching sutra number
Difficulty
★★☆☆☆ — a precise psychological point about intention

Why this discourse

A warrior chief poses the identical kind of question SN 42.2 already asked, this time about his own guild's belief: a warrior killed in the act of fighting is reborn among “the gods of the fallen.” The Buddha's refutation locates the problem not in the death itself but in the mind that preceded it: a warrior striving in battle has already formed the corrupted intention “may these beings be killed, slaughtered, slain,” and it is that intention, already present before any blow lands, that determines the destination — a hell named “The Fallen,” reversing the old promise exactly as SN 42.2 reversed the dancer's own.

Reading guide

The same structure, a different guild belief

Confirmed by direct comparison: the three-times-refused question, the eventual answer, the reversal of the old teaching's own promised destination, and the closing tears are structurally identical to SN 42.2, applied to warriors rather than entertainers.

Intention before impact

The discourse locates the karmic weight not in dying in battle itself but in the corrupted intention already held while striving to kill — the same principle this project has traced elsewhere: action is defined by intention, not merely by outcome.

A hell named for the very promise it reverses

“Parajita” (“the Fallen”) names both the old teaching's promised heavenly rebirth (“the gods of the fallen”) and this discourse's own actual destination (“the hell called the Fallen”) — the identical word repurposed as a direct rebuttal, echoing SN 42.2's own “Laughter” wordplay.

Key terms

yodhājīvo — “warrior” — this discourse's own subject profession, paralleling SN 42.2's own entertainer
cittaṁ pubbe gahitaṁ dukkaṭaṁ duppaṇihitaṁ — “the mind is already low, degraded, and misdirected” — the discourse's own precise location of the karmic problem, before any blow is struck
parajitānaṁ devānaṁ — “the gods of the fallen” — the old guild teaching's own promised rebirth
parajito nāma nirayo — “the hell called 'the Fallen'” — this discourse's own reversal, repurposing the identical term
micchādiṭṭhi — “wrong view” — the discourse's own naming of the old warrior teaching, identical framing to SN 42.2's own dancer teaching

The text

The complete discourse. Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato (CC0, SuttaCentral).

§1Then Dustin the warrior chief went up to the Buddha, bowed, sat down to one side, and said to him: “Sir, I have heard that the warriors of the past who were tutors of tutors said: ‘Suppose a warrior, while striving and struggling in battle, is killed and finished off by his foes. When his body breaks up, after death, he’s reborn in the company of the gods of the fallen.’ What does the Buddha say about this?” “Enough, chief, let it be. Don’t ask me that.” For a second time … And for a third time Dustin the warrior chief said to the Buddha: “Sir, I have heard that the warriors of the past who were tutors of tutors said: ‘Suppose a warrior, while striving and struggling in battle, is killed and finished off by his foes. When his body breaks up, after death, he’s reborn in the company of the gods of the fallen.’ What does the Buddha say about this?” “Clearly, chief, I’m not getting through to you when I say: ‘Enough, chief, let it be. Don’t ask me that.’ Nevertheless, I will answer you. When a warrior strives and struggles in battle, their mind is already low, degraded, and misdirected as they think: ‘May these sentient beings be killed, slaughtered, slain, destroyed, or annihilated!’ His foes kill him and finish him off, and when his body breaks up, after death, he’s reborn in the hell called ‘The Fallen’. But if you have such a view: ‘Suppose a warrior, while striving and struggling in battle, is killed and finished off by his foes. When his body breaks up, after death, he’s reborn in the company of the gods of the fallen.’ This is your wrong view. An individual with wrong view is reborn in one of two places, I say: hell or the animal realm.” When he said this, Dustin the warrior chief cried and burst out in tears. “This is what I didn’t get through to you when I said: ‘Enough, chief, let it be. Don’t ask me that.’” “Sir, I’m not crying because of what the Buddha said. But sir, for a long time I’ve been cheated, tricked, and deceived by the warriors of the past who were tutors of tutors, who said: ‘Suppose a warrior, while striving and struggling in battle, is killed and finished off by his foes. When his body breaks up, after death, he’s reborn in the company of the gods of the fallen.’ Excellent, sir! Excellent! … From this day forth, may the Buddha remember me as a lay follower who has gone for refuge for life.”

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Self-check quiz

3 questions. Click an answer to see immediate feedback. No score is recorded — this is for your own checking.

Question 1 of 3
What does the warrior's own guild tradition promise?
Correct: A. The belief this warrior chief asks the Buddha to confirm.
Question 2 of 3
Where does the Buddha locate the actual karmic problem?
Correct: A. Intention, not merely outcome, determines the karmic weight.
Question 3 of 3
What wordplay does this discourse share with SN 42.2's own?
Correct: A. Echoing SN 42.2's own "Laughter" reversal with a matching structure.
Answered 0 of 3 · Correct 0

Further reading

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