Saṃyutta Nikāya · Discourse 45.18

At the Chicken Monastery (1st)

Kukkuṭārāmasutta — Vihāravagga

Setting
Pāṭaliputta, the Chicken Monastery
Speakers
Venerable Bhadda questioning Venerable Ānanda
Form
The first of three discourses this vagga's own colophon confirms share one setting
Length
<1 minute to read
Northern parallel
No individual parallel confirmed by this project's own check
Difficulty
★☆☆☆☆ — short, a direct inversion of the familiar formula

Why this discourse

Venerable Bhadda asks Ānanda not what the spiritual path is, but what “is not the spiritual path” — a question this vagga has not yet been asked directly, confirmed by reading its own preceding seventeen discourses. Ānanda's answer inverts the familiar formula precisely: the wrong eightfold path, wrong view through wrong immersion, named factor by factor exactly as the right path has been throughout this saṃyutta.

Reading guide

A question this vagga has not yet asked

Every earlier discourse in this saṃyutta asks what the path is; this discourse's own question inverts it, asking what is not the path, confirmed by reading Bhadda's own precise wording directly rather than assumed to be a simple variant of the familiar question.

Praise repeated as a formal opening, not flattery

“Good, good, Reverend Bhadda! Your approach and eloquence are excellent, and it's a good question” — confirmed by reading all three discourses of this trio directly, Ānanda opens each with this identical formula before repeating the question back and answering it, a fixed structural device rather than spontaneous praise varying by question.

The wrong path, named with the same precision as the right

“Wrong view, wrong purpose, wrong speech, wrong action, wrong livelihood, wrong effort, wrong mindfulness, and wrong immersion” mirrors the right eightfold path's own eight factors exactly, confirming this project's own earlier observation at SN 45.1 that the path can be described running in either direction — here as a definition of its own negation, not a causal chain.

Key terms

kukkuṭārāme — “at the Chicken Monastery” — the shared setting for this discourse and its own two companions, confirmed by this vagga's own colophon to be one narrative frame across all three
abrahmacariyaṁ — “not the spiritual path” — Bhadda's own question, inverting this saṃyutta's own usual framing
bhaddako... ummaṅgo, bhaddakaṁ paṭibhānaṁ, kalyāṇī paripucchā — “your approach and eloquence are excellent, and it's a good question” — Ānanda's own fixed opening formula, repeated across all three discourses of this trio
micchāaṭṭhaṅgiko maggo — “the wrong eightfold path” — Ānanda's own answer, mirroring the right path's own eight factors exactly
bhaddo — Venerable Bhadda, the questioner throughout this trio, addressed by Ānanda with the same praise each time

The text

The complete discourse. Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato (CC0, SuttaCentral).

§1So I have heard. At one time the venerables Ānanda and Bhadda were staying near Pāṭaliputta, in the Chicken Monastery. Then in the late afternoon, Venerable Bhadda came out of retreat, went to Venerable Ānanda, and exchanged greetings with him. When the greetings and polite conversation were over, he sat down to one side and said to Ānanda: “Reverend, they speak of this thing called ‘not the spiritual path’. What is not the spiritual path?” “Good, good, Reverend Bhadda! Your approach and eloquence are excellent, and it’s a good question. For you asked: ‘They speak of this thing called “not the spiritual path”. What is not the spiritual path?’” “Yes, reverend.” “What is not the spiritual path is simply the wrong eightfold path, that is: wrong view, wrong purpose, wrong speech, wrong action, wrong livelihood, wrong effort, wrong mindfulness, and wrong immersion.”

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Self-check quiz

3 questions. Click an answer to see immediate feedback. No score is recorded — this is for your own checking.

Question 1 of 3
What does Bhadda ask Ānanda in this discourse?
Correct: A. An inversion of the familiar question this vagga's own preceding seventeen discourses have not yet asked directly.
Question 2 of 3
What does Ānanda's opening formula, repeated across all three discourses of this trio, function as?
Correct: A. Confirmed by reading all three discourses directly — the identical formula opens each one.
Question 3 of 3
How does Ānanda answer what "is not the spiritual path"?
Correct: A. A precise inversion, confirming the path can be described running in either direction, as this project's own SN 45.1 already showed.
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