Saṃyutta Nikāya · Discourse 46.52

Is There a Way?

Pariyāyasutta — Sākacchavagga

Setting
Sāvatthī, opening at the wanderers' own monastery
Speakers
Wanderers of other religions, then the Buddha, addressing the mendicants who report back to him
Form
A narrative frame (mendicants challenged by rivals), followed by an analytical doubling of two core lists
Length
3-4 minutes to read
Northern parallel
No individual parallel confirmed by this project's own check
Difficulty
★★★☆☆ — a sophisticated analytical distinction answering a genuine rival challenge

Why this discourse

Wanderers of other religions point out that they teach the identical formula — give up the five hindrances, develop the seven awakening factors — and ask what distinguishes the Buddha's own teaching from theirs. His own answer is a precise analytical move: showing that the five hindrances can be doubled to ten, and the seven awakening factors to fourteen, by distinguishing an internal and an external instance of each.

Reading guide

A genuine rival challenge, not a straw man

This discourse's own opening frame is notable for its own intellectual honesty: the mendicants who hear the wanderers' own challenge neither approve nor reject it on the spot, instead returning to the Buddha himself for the answer — treating the rival claim as worth taking seriously rather than dismissing outright.

Doubling by internal/external, not by adding new items

The Buddha's own analytical move does not add any new hindrance or awakening factor to the list; instead, each of the twelve items is shown to apply separately to internal and external instances (sensual desire for what is internal versus external; mindfulness of internal versus external things), and, for several items, to a physical/mental or with/without placing-the-mind distinction instead — a genuinely more precise analysis than a superficially identical formula.

Key terms

titthiyā paribbājakā — “wanderers of other religions” — non-Buddhist ascetic practitioners, here raising a genuine intellectual challenge
pañca nīvaraṇā dasa honti — “the five hindrances become ten” — the discourse's own central analytical claim, achieved by distinguishing internal and external instances of each hindrance
satta bojjhaṅgā cuddasa honti — “the seven awakening factors become fourteen” — the parallel claim for the awakening factors, using a mix of internal/external, physical/mental, and with/without-placing-the-mind distinctions depending on the specific factor
ajjhattaṁ... bahiddhā — “internal... external” — the primary distinction doubling most of the twelve items, though not the only one used
savitakkasavicāraṁ... avitakkaavicāraṁ — “while placing the mind and keeping it connected... without placing the mind and keeping it connected” — the specific distinction used for rapture and immersion instead of internal/external

The text

Every genuinely translated fragment of this discourse. Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato (CC0, SuttaCentral).

§1-4 — the wanderers' own challengeThen several mendicants robed up in the morning and, taking their bowls and robes, entered Sāvatthī for alms. Then it occurred to him, “It’s too early to wander for alms in Sāvatthī. Why don’t we visit the monastery of the wanderers of other religions?” Then they went to the monastery of the wanderers of other religions and exchanged greetings with the wanderers there. When the greetings and polite conversation were over, they sat down to one side. The wanderers said to them: “Reverends, the ascetic Gotama teaches his disciples like this: ‘Mendicants, please give up the five hindrances—corruptions of the heart that weaken wisdom—and truly develop the seven awakening factors.’ We too teach our disciples: ‘Reverends, please give up the five hindrances—corruptions of the heart that weaken wisdom—and truly develop the seven awakening factors.’ What, then, is the difference between the ascetic Gotama’s teaching and instruction and ours?” Those mendicants neither approved nor rejected that statement of the wanderers of other religions. They got up from their seat, thinking: “We will learn the meaning of this statement from the Buddha himself.” Then, after the meal, when they returned from almsround, they went up to the Buddha, bowed, sat down to one side, and told him what had happened.

§8 — the Buddha's own response“Mendicants, when wanderers of other religions say this, you should say to them: ‘But reverends, is there a way in which the five hindrances become ten and the seven awakening factors become fourteen?’ Questioned like this, the wanderers of other religions would be stumped, and, in addition, would get frustrated. Why is that? Because they’re out of their element. I don’t see anyone in this world—with its gods, Māras, and Divinities, this population with its ascetics and brahmins, its gods and humans—who could provide a satisfying answer to these questions except for the Realized One or his disciple or someone who has heard it from them.

§9 — the five hindrances become tenAnd what is the way in which the five hindrances become ten? Sensual desire for what is internal is a hindrance; and sensual desire for what is external is also a hindrance. That’s how what is concisely referred to as ‘the hindrance of sensual desire’ becomes twofold. Ill will for what is internal is a hindrance; and ill will for what is external is also a hindrance. That’s how what is concisely referred to as ‘the hindrance of ill will’ becomes twofold. Dullness is a hindrance; and drowsiness is also a hindrance. That’s how what is concisely referred to as ‘the hindrance of dullness and drowsiness’ becomes twofold. Restlessness is a hindrance; and remorse is also a hindrance. That’s how what is concisely referred to as ‘the hindrance of restlessness and remorse’ becomes twofold. Doubt about internal things is a hindrance; and doubt about external things is also a hindrance. That’s how what is concisely referred to as ‘the hindrance of doubt’ becomes twofold. This is the way in which the five hindrances become ten.

§10-16 — the seven awakening factors become fourteenAnd what is the way in which the seven awakening factors become fourteen? Mindfulness of internal things is the awakening factor of mindfulness; and mindfulness of external things is also the awakening factor of mindfulness. That’s how what is concisely referred to as ‘the awakening factor of mindfulness’ becomes twofold. Investigating, exploring, and inquiring into internal things with wisdom is the awakening factor of investigation of principles; and investigating, exploring, and inquiring into external things with wisdom is also the awakening factor of investigation of principles. That’s how what is concisely referred to as ‘the awakening factor of investigation of principles’ becomes twofold. Physical energy is the awakening factor of energy; and mental energy is also the awakening factor of energy. That’s how what is concisely referred to as ‘the awakening factor of energy’ becomes twofold. Rapture while placing the mind and keeping it connected is the awakening factor of rapture; and rapture without placing the mind and keeping it connected is also the awakening factor of rapture. In this way what is concisely referred to as ‘the awakening factor of rapture’ becomes twofold. Physical tranquility is the awakening factor of tranquility; and mental tranquility is also the awakening factor of tranquility. In this way what is concisely referred to as ‘the awakening factor of tranquility’ becomes twofold. Immersion while placing the mind and keeping it connected is the awakening factor of immersion; and immersion without placing the mind and keeping it connected is also the awakening factor of immersion. In this way what is concisely referred to as ‘the awakening factor of immersion’ becomes twofold. Equanimity for internal things is the awakening factor of equanimity; and equanimity for external things is also the awakening factor of equanimity. In this way what is concisely referred to as ‘the awakening factor of equanimity’ becomes twofold. This is the way in which the seven awakening factors become fourteen.”

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Question 1 of 3
What is notable about how the mendicants respond to the wanderers' own challenge?
Correct: A. A notable intellectual honesty, treating the rival claim as worth genuine consideration.
Question 2 of 3
How does the Buddha's own answer double the five hindrances to ten, without adding new items?
Correct: A. A more precise analysis of the existing five, not an expanded list.
Question 3 of 3
What distinction is used for rapture and immersion instead of internal/external?
Correct: A. A specific technical distinction related to jhāna factors, applied where internal/external doesn't fit as naturally.
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