Saṃyutta Nikāya · Discourse 51.15

The Brahmin Uṇṇābha

Uṇṇābhabrāhmaṇasutta — Pāsādakampanavagga

Setting
Ghosita's Monastery, Kosambī
Speakers
Venerable Ānanda and Uṇṇābha the brahmin
Form
A philosophical dialogue resolving an apparent paradox, ending in the brahmin's own conversion
Length
~3 minutes to read
Northern parallel
No individual parallel confirmed by this project's own check
Significance
★★★★★ — taught by Ānanda rather than the Buddha, resolving a genuine philosophical puzzle about desire and ending in a brahmin's own conversion

Why this discourse

Confirmed by direct reading, this discourse is taught not by the Buddha but by Venerable Ānanda, answering a sharp objection from a brahmin questioner: if the path to giving up desire itself begins with desire (chanda, the first basis of psychic power), isn't the path an endless regress? Ānanda's own answer, confirmed directly by the text, uses a simple everyday analogy to show the desire is self-consuming, not self-perpetuating — and the brahmin goes for refuge on the spot.

Reading guide

A brahmin's own sharp objection

Confirmed by direct reading, Uṇṇābha's own challenge is precise: since the path to giving up desire is itself described as beginning with desire, “the path is endless, not finite—for it's not possible to give up desire by means of desire,” he argues, naming an apparent logical trap in the very teaching Ānanda had just described.

The walking-to-the-park analogy

Confirmed by direct reading, Ānanda's own reply doesn't argue abstractly but asks the brahmin about his own experience: he had once desired to walk to a park, but on arriving, that very desire “faded away” — and the same is true, he confirms, of the energy, the idea, and the inquiry that got him there.

Desire that consumes itself, applied to the goal

Confirmed by direct reading, Ānanda then applies this same pattern to a mendicant who has “ended defilements”: they too formerly had the desire, energy, idea, and inquiry needed to attain perfection, but once perfection was attained, each of these “faded away” in turn — the desire used to reach the goal doesn't survive to become a new attachment once the goal is reached.

A conversion sealed on the spot

Confirmed by direct reading, the discourse closes with the brahmin's own explicit conversion, praising Ānanda's teaching with the classic fourfold simile (righting the overturned, revealing the hidden, pointing out the path to the lost, lighting a lamp in the dark) before formally going for refuge as a lay follower for life.

Key terms

chandena chandaṁ pajahissatī — “to give up desire by means of desire” — the brahmin's own objection, naming the apparent paradox at the heart of this discourse
ananto ayaṁ pañho, no anto — “the path is endless, not finite” — the brahmin's own initial, mistaken conclusion, later reversed in his own words
ārāmaṁ gantukāmo — “had a desire to walk to the park” — Ānanda's own everyday analogy, grounding an abstract point in the brahmin's own lived experience
khīṇāsavo... arahā — “perfected—with defilements ended” — the mendicant Ānanda describes as having reached the very goal desire was first used to pursue
saraṇaṁ gataṁ upāsakaṁ — “a lay follower who has gone for refuge” — the brahmin's own final self-description, closing the discourse

The text

The complete discourse. Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato (CC0, SuttaCentral).

§1So I have heard. At one time Venerable Ānanda was staying near Kosambī, in Ghosita’s Monastery. Then Uṇṇābha the brahmin went up to Venerable Ānanda, and exchanged greetings with him. When the greetings and polite conversation were over, he sat down to one side and said to him, “Worthy Ānanda, what’s the goal of leading the spiritual life under the ascetic Gotama?” “The goal of leading the spiritual life under the Buddha, brahmin, is to give up desire.”

§2“But is there a path and a practice for giving up that desire?” “There is.”

§3“What is that path?” “It’s when a mendicant develops the basis of psychic power that has immersion due to enthusiasm … energy … mental development … inquiry, and active effort. This is the path and the practice for giving up that desire.”

§4“This being the case, worthy Ānanda, the path is endless, not finite. For it’s not possible to give up desire by means of desire.” “Well then, brahmin, I’ll ask you about this in return, and you can answer as you like. What do you think, brahmin? Have you ever had a desire to walk to the park, but when you arrived at the park, the corresponding desire faded away?” “Yes, sir.” “Have you ever had the energy to walk to the park, but when you arrived at the park, the corresponding energy faded away?” “Yes, sir.” “Have you ever had the idea to walk to the park, but when you arrived at the park, the corresponding idea faded away?” “Yes, sir.” “Have you ever inquired regarding a walk to the park, but when you arrived at the park, the corresponding inquiry faded away?” “Yes, sir.”

§5“In the same way, take a mendicant who is perfected—with defilements ended, who has completed the spiritual journey, done what had to be done, laid down the burden, achieved their heart’s goal, utterly ended the fetter of continued existence, and is rightly freed through enlightenment. They formerly had the desire to attain perfection, but when they attained perfection the corresponding desire faded away. They formerly had the energy to attain perfection, but when they attained perfection the corresponding energy faded away. They formerly had the idea to attain perfection, but when they attained perfection the corresponding idea faded away. They formerly inquired regarding attaining perfection, but when they attained perfection the corresponding inquiry faded away. What do you think, brahmin? This being the case, is the path endless or finite?”

§6“Clearly, worthy Ānanda, this being the case, the path is finite, not endless. Excellent, worthy Ānanda! Excellent! As if he were righting the overturned, or revealing the hidden, or pointing out the path to the lost, or lighting a lamp in the dark so people with clear eyes can see what’s there, the worthy Ānanda has made the teaching clear in many ways. I go for refuge to the worthy Gotama, to the teaching, and to the mendicant Saṅgha. From this day forth, may the worthy Ānanda remember me as a lay follower who has gone for refuge for life.”

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Self-check quiz

3 questions. Click an answer to see immediate feedback. No score is recorded — this is for your own checking.

Question 1 of 3
What objection does the brahmin Uṇṇābha raise?
Correct: A. "The path is endless, not finite. For it's not possible to give up desire by means of desire."
Question 2 of 3
How does Ānanda answer this objection?
Correct: A. A desire to walk to the park fades away once you arrive — the same pattern applies to attaining perfection.
Question 3 of 3
How does the discourse end?
Correct: A. "Clearly, worthy Ānanda, this being the case, the path is finite, not endless" — followed by taking refuge.
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