Saṃyutta Nikāya · Discourse 55.13

With the Senior Monk Ānanda

Therasutta — Rājakārāmavagga

Setting
Sāvatthī, Jeta's Grove, Anāthapiṇḍika's monastery
Speakers
Venerable Sāriputta and Venerable Ānanda
Form
A question and answer between two senior disciples, with the full traditional recollection formulas given for the first time in this saṃyutta
Length
2–3 minutes to read
Northern parallel
No individual parallel confirmed by this project's own check
Significance
★★★★★ — the first discourse in this saṃyutta to give the full, unelided recollection formulas for the Buddha, the teaching, and the Saṅgha, and the first to frame the four factors as both something abandoned and something gained

Why this discourse

Confirmed by direct reading, Sāriputta asks Ānanda a question genuinely more specific than any asked before in this saṃyutta: not only what must be possessed for stream-entry, but what must be given up. Ānanda's own answer pairs four things to abandon (distrust in the Buddha, the teaching, the Saṅgha, and unethical conduct) with four things to gain (confidence in the same three, and ethical conduct), and gives the full traditional recollection formula for each — unelided, for the first time in this saṃyutta.

Reading guide

Give up four, gain four: the same coin's two faces

Confirmed by direct reading, Ānanda frames each factor twice: the distrust an “unlearned ordinary person” has, which leads to a bad rebirth, and the confidence a “learned noble disciple” has instead, which leads to a good one — the identical content stated as both a loss and a gain.

The recollection formulas, given in full

Confirmed by direct reading, this is the first discourse in this saṃyutta where the traditional epithets are spelled out completely rather than compressed via “…”: the Buddha's own ninefold epithet (perfected, fully awakened, accomplished in knowledge and conduct, and so on), the teaching's own fourfold description (well explained, apparent in the present life, and so on), and the Saṅgha's own description (the four pairs, the eight individual persons, worthy of offerings) — the full content this saṃyutta's own recurring “…” has stood in for throughout Vagga 1 and the opening of Vagga 2.

Key terms

katihi dhammehi cattehi, katihi ca dhammehi samannāgato — “how many things do people have to give up and how many do they have to possess” — Sāriputta's own genuinely more specific question
itipi so bhagavā arahaṁ sammāsambuddho vijjācaraṇasampanno sugato lokavidū... — “that Blessed One is perfected, a fully awakened Buddha, accomplished in knowledge and conduct, holy…” — the Buddha's own full ninefold epithet, given here unelided for the first time
svākkhāto bhagavatā dhammo sandiṭṭhiko akāliko ehipassiko — “the teaching is well explained by the Buddha—apparent in the present life, immediately effective, inviting inspection” — the teaching's own full recollection formula
cattāri purisayugāni aṭṭha purisapuggalā — “the four pairs, the eight individual persons” — the Saṅgha's own traditional description, referring to the four stages of awakening each split into path and fruit
ariyakantehi sīlehi samannāgato akhaṇḍehi acchiddehi asabalehi akammāsehi — “ethical conduct loved by the noble ones, unbroken, impeccable, spotless, and unmarred” — the fourth factor's own full unelided description

The text

Every genuinely translated fragment given in the consulted English source, including the full, unelided recollection formulas. Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato (CC0, SuttaCentral).

§1At one time the venerables Ānanda and Sāriputta were staying near Sāvatthī in Jeta’s Grove, Anāthapiṇḍika’s monastery. Then in the late afternoon, Venerable Sāriputta came out of retreat, went to Venerable Ānanda, and exchanged greetings with him. When the greetings and polite conversation were over, he sat down to one side and said to him: “Reverend, how many things do people have to give up and how many do they have to possess in order for the Buddha to declare that they’re a stream-enterer, not liable to be reborn in the underworld, assured, destined for awakening?” “Reverend, people have to give up four things and possess four things in order for the Buddha to declare that they’re a stream-enterer, not liable to be reborn in the underworld, assured, destined for awakening. What four? They don’t have the distrust in the Buddha that causes an unlearned ordinary person to be reborn—when their body breaks up, after death—in a place of loss, a bad place, the underworld, hell. And they do have the experiential confidence in the Buddha that causes a learned noble disciple to be reborn—when their body breaks up, after death—in a good place, a heavenly realm. ‘That Blessed One is perfected, a fully awakened Buddha, accomplished in knowledge and conduct, holy, knower of the world, supreme guide for those fit for training, teacher of gods and humans, awakened, blessed.’

The teaching, in fullThey don’t have the distrust in the teaching that causes an unlearned ordinary person to be reborn—when their body breaks up, after death—in a place of loss, a bad place, the underworld, hell. And they do have the experiential confidence in the teaching that causes a learned noble disciple to be reborn—when their body breaks up, after death—in a good place, a heavenly realm. ‘The teaching is well explained by the Buddha—apparent in the present life, immediately effective, inviting inspection, relevant, so that sensible people can know it for themselves.’

The Saṅgha, in fullThey don’t have the distrust in the Saṅgha that causes an unlearned ordinary person to be reborn—when their body breaks up, after death—in a place of loss, a bad place, the underworld, hell. And they do have the experiential confidence in the Saṅgha that causes a learned noble disciple to be reborn—when their body breaks up, after death—in a good place, a heavenly realm. ‘The Saṅgha of the Buddha’s disciples is practicing the way that’s good, direct, systematic, and proper. It consists of the four pairs, the eight individual persons. This Saṅgha of the Buddha’s disciples is worthy of offerings dedicated to the gods, worthy of hospitality, worthy of a religious donation, and worthy of veneration with cupped palms.’

Ethical conduct, in fullThey don’t have the unethical conduct that causes an unlearned ordinary person to be reborn—when their body breaks up, after death—in a place of loss, a bad place, the underworld, hell. And they do have the ethical conduct loved by the noble ones that causes a learned noble disciple to be reborn—when their body breaks up, after death—in a good place, a heavenly realm. Their ethical conduct is loved by the noble ones, unbroken, impeccable, spotless, and unmarred, liberating, praised by sensible people, not mistaken, and leading to immersion. People have to give up these four things and possess these four things in order for the Buddha to declare that they’re a stream-enterer, not liable to be reborn in the underworld, assured, destined for awakening.”

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Self-check quiz

3 questions. Click an answer to see immediate feedback. No score is recorded — this is for your own checking.

Question 1 of 3
How does Sāriputta's own question differ from earlier questions in this saṃyutta?
Correct: A. Confirmed by direct reading — a genuinely more specific two-part question.
Question 2 of 3
What is genuinely new about this discourse compared to every prior discourse in this saṃyutta?
Correct: A. Confirmed by direct reading — the first full statement of these formulas in this saṃyutta.
Question 3 of 3
How does Ānanda frame each of the four factors?
Correct: A. Confirmed by direct reading — the identical content stated as both a loss and a gain.
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