Saṃyutta Nikāya · Discourse 55.7

The People of Bamboo Gate

Veḷudvāreyyasutta — Veḷudvāravagga

Setting
Bamboo Gate, a village of Kosalan brahmins
Speakers
The Buddha and the brahmins and householders of Bamboo Gate
Form
An honest request for worldly benefit, then a structured, reciprocity-based teaching
Length
3–4 minutes to read
Northern parallel
No individual parallel confirmed by this project's own check
Significance
★★★★★ — the well-known reciprocity reflection grounding ethical conduct directly in the villagers' own stated worldly wishes, without demanding they renounce those wishes first

Why this discourse

Confirmed by direct reading, the villagers of Bamboo Gate state their own wishes openly — to live at home with their children, enjoy luxury and fine goods, and be reborn in a heavenly realm after death — and ask the Buddha for a teaching that helps them achieve exactly this. Rather than redirecting them toward renunciation, the Buddha teaches a reciprocity-based reflection applied directly to ethical conduct, honoring their own stated goals.

Reading guide

Honest wishes, honestly addressed

Confirmed by direct reading, the villagers name their own desires without pretense — sandalwood, garlands, gold, a comfortable family life, and a good rebirth — and the Buddha's own reply, “an explanation of the Dhamma that is relevant for oneself,” meets them exactly where they stand rather than redirecting them elsewhere first.

The reciprocity reflection, repeated for each precept

Confirmed by direct reading, the same reasoning structure recurs for each of ten harmful actions: “the thing that is disliked by me is also disliked by others—since I dislike this thing, how can I inflict it on someone else?” — applied in turn to killing, stealing, sexual misconduct, lying, divisive speech, harsh speech, and idle chatter.

Ten actions, purifying body and speech in three points each

Confirmed by direct reading, the discourse groups these ten reflections into bodily conduct (killing, stealing, sexual misconduct — “purified in three points”) and verbal conduct (lying, divisive speech, harsh speech, idle chatter — “purified in three points” again), each abandoned action paired with actively encouraging others toward the same abstention.

Seven good qualities and four desirable states, together

Confirmed by direct reading, this discourse's own closing formula names the total achievement as “these seven good qualities and these four desirable states” — the reciprocity-based ethical conduct plus the four factors of stream-entry already met at SN 55.2, together licensing the same self-declaration formula as a stream-enterer.

Key terms

attūpanāyikaṁ dhammapariyāyaṁ — “an explanation of the Dhamma that is relevant for oneself” — the Buddha's own framing, meeting the villagers' own stated wishes directly
yampi mayhaṁ appiyaṁ amanāpaṁ, tampi parassa appiyaṁ amanāpaṁ — “the thing that is disliked by me is also disliked by others” — the discourse's own recurring reciprocity formula
kāyakammantaṁ parisodheti tīhi ṭhānehi — “their bodily behavior is purified in three points” — the closing formula after killing, stealing, and sexual misconduct are each abandoned
vacīkammantaṁ parisodheti catūhi ṭhānehi — “their verbal behavior is purified in…points” — the parallel closing formula after the four kinds of harmful speech are abandoned
sattahi saddhammehi samannāgato catūhi ca ākaṅkhiyehi dhammehi — “these seven good qualities and these four desirable states” — this discourse's own combined total, licensing the same self-declaration as a stream-enterer

The text

Every genuinely translated fragment given in the consulted English source. Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato (CC0, SuttaCentral).

§1So I have heard. At one time the Buddha was wandering in the land of the Kosalans together with a large Saṅgha of mendicants when he arrived at a village of the Kosalan brahmins named Bamboo Gate. The brahmins and householders of Bamboo Gate heard: “It seems the ascetic Gotama—a Sakyan, gone forth from a Sakyan family—has arrived at Bamboo Gate, together with a large Saṅgha of mendicants. He has this good reputation: ‘That Blessed One is perfected, a fully awakened Buddha, accomplished in knowledge and conduct, holy, knower of the world, supreme guide for those fit for training, teacher of gods and humans, awakened, blessed.’ He has realized with his own insight this world—with its gods, Māras, and divinities, this population with its ascetics and brahmins, gods and humans—and he makes it known to others. He proclaims a teaching that is good in the beginning, good in the middle, and good in the end, meaningful and well-phrased. And he reveals a spiritual practice that’s entirely full and pure. It’s good to see such perfected ones.” Then the brahmins and householders of Bamboo Gate went up to the Buddha. Before sitting down to one side, some bowed, some exchanged greetings and polite conversation, some held up their cupped palms toward the Buddha, some announced their name and clan, while some kept silent. Seated to one side they said to the Buddha: “Worthy Gotama, these are our wishes, desires, and hopes. We wish to live at home with our children; to use sandalwood imported from Kāsi; to wear garlands, fragrance, and makeup; and to accept gold and currency. And when our body breaks up, after death, we wish to be reborn in a good place, a heavenly realm. Given that we have such wishes, may the Buddha teach us the Dhamma so that we may achieve them.”

§2“Householders, I will teach you an explanation of the Dhamma that is relevant for oneself. Listen and apply your mind well, I will speak.” “Yes, worthy sir,” they replied. The Buddha said this:

Reciprocity and killing“And what is the explanation of the Dhamma that applies to oneself? It’s when a noble disciple reflects: ‘I want to live and don’t want to die; I want to be happy and recoil from pain. Since this is so, if someone were to take my life, I wouldn’t like that. But others also want to live and don’t want to die; they want to be happy and recoil from pain. So if I were to take the life of someone else, they wouldn’t like that either. The thing that is disliked by me is also disliked by others. Since I dislike this thing, how can I inflict it on someone else?’ Reflecting in this way, they give up killing living creatures themselves. And they encourage others to give up killing living creatures, praising the giving up of killing living creatures. So their bodily behavior is purified in three points.

Stealing and sexual misconductFurthermore, a noble disciple reflects: ‘If someone were to steal from me, I wouldn’t like that. But if I were to steal from someone else, they wouldn’t like that either. The thing that is disliked by me is also disliked by others. Since I dislike this thing, how can I inflict it on someone else?’ Reflecting in this way, they give up stealing themselves. And they encourage others to give up stealing, praising the giving up of stealing. So their bodily behavior is purified in three points. Furthermore, a noble disciple reflects: ‘If someone were to have sexual relations with my wives, I wouldn’t like it. But if I were to have sexual relations with someone else’s wives, he wouldn’t like that either. The thing that is disliked by me is also disliked by others. Since I dislike this thing, how can I inflict it on others?’ Reflecting in this way, they give up sexual misconduct themselves. And they encourage others to give up sexual misconduct, praising the giving up of sexual misconduct. So their bodily behavior is purified in three points.

Four kinds of harmful speechFurthermore, a noble disciple reflects: ‘If someone were to distort my meaning by lying, I wouldn’t like it. But if I were to distort someone else’s meaning by lying, they wouldn’t like it either. The thing that is disliked by me is also disliked by someone else. Since I dislike this thing, how can I inflict it on others?’ Reflecting in this way, they give up lying themselves. And they encourage others to give up lying, praising the giving up of lying. So their verbal behavior is purified in three points. Furthermore, a noble disciple reflects: ‘If someone were to break me up from my friends by backbiting, I wouldn’t like it. But if I were to break someone else from their friends by backbiting, they wouldn’t like it either. …’ So their verbal behavior is purified in three points. Furthermore, a noble disciple reflects: ‘If someone were to attack me with harsh speech, I wouldn’t like it. But if I were to attack someone else with harsh speech, they wouldn’t like it either. …’ So their verbal behavior is purified in three points. Furthermore, a noble disciple reflects: ‘If someone were to annoy me by talking silliness and nonsense, I wouldn’t like it. But if I were to annoy someone else by talking silliness and nonsense, they wouldn’t like it either.’ The thing that is disliked by me is also disliked by another. Since I dislike this thing, how can I inflict it on another?’ Reflecting in this way, they give up talking nonsense themselves. And they encourage others to give up talking nonsense, praising the giving up of talking nonsense. So their verbal behavior is purified in three points.

The seven and the four, togetherAnd they have experiential confidence in the Buddha … the teaching … the Saṅgha … And they have the ethical conduct loved by the noble ones … leading to immersion. When a noble disciple possesses these seven good qualities and these four desirable states they may, if they wish, declare of themselves: ‘I’ve finished with rebirth in hell, the animal realm, and the ghost realm. I’ve finished with all places of loss, bad places, the underworld. I am a stream-enterer! I’m not liable to be reborn in the underworld, and am assured, destined for awakening.’”

§3When he had spoken, the brahmins and householders of Bamboo Gate said to the Buddha, “Excellent, worthy Gotama! … We go for refuge to the worthy Gotama, to the teaching, and to the mendicant Saṅgha. From this day forth, may the worthy Gotama remember us as lay followers who have gone for refuge for life.”

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Question 1 of 3
How does the Buddha respond to the villagers' own openly stated worldly wishes?
Correct: A. Confirmed by direct reading — "an explanation of the Dhamma that is relevant for oneself," meeting them where they stand.
Question 2 of 3
What reasoning structure recurs across all ten harmful actions addressed in this discourse?
Correct: A. Confirmed by direct reading — the same golden-rule-style reflection, repeated for each precept.
Question 3 of 3
What does this discourse's own closing formula name as the total achievement?
Correct: A. Confirmed by direct reading — the two teachings combined into one licensing formula.
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