Sutta Nipāta · Discourse 5.12

The Questions of Jatukaṇṇī

Jatukaṇṇimānavapucchā

Setting
The Pāsāṇaka Shrine in Magadha, within Bāvarī’s frame narrative (see Snp 5.1)
Questioner
Jatukaṇṇī, the eleventh of Bāvarī’s sixteen student-brahmins
Form
Five verses: a question built on reputation and comparison, then a teaching on time and grasping
Length
~1–2 minutes to read
Position
Eleventh of sixteen questions in the Pārāyanavagga
Difficulty
★★☆☆☆ — a compact but precise formula for total non-clinging

Why this discourse

Jatukaṇṇī comes to the Buddha the way many people still come to teachers today — on the strength of reputation, “hearing of the hero with no desire for sensual pleasures,” wanting to know if the reports are true and, if so, what the state being described actually consists of. The Buddha’s answer gives one of the Pārāyanavagga’s clearest short formulas for complete non-clinging across time: let the past wither, let there be nothing after, and above all, don’t grasp at the middle — the present moment itself.

Reading guide

The teaching in one sentence

With desire for sensual pleasures dispelled and renunciation seen as sanctuary, one who lets the past wither away, allows nothing to be built up for the future, and refuses to grasp even at the present moment in between, lives at peace and is free of the defilements that let Death take hold.

Arriving on reputation

Jatukaṇṇī’s opening is notable for being built almost entirely on hearsay: he has heard of the Buddha as a “hero with no desire for sensual pleasures... who has passed over the flood,” and has come with a question for someone he is, at this point, still taking largely on report. He compares the Buddha’s progress to “the blazing sun” shining on the earth — an image of something whose effect is felt at a distance, before it is verified up close. His request is direct: “tell me the state of peace... as it really is,” and specifically, how one gives up “rebirth and old age here.”

Before, after, and the middle

The Buddha’s answer opens with the dispelling of sensual desire and the recognition of renunciation as safety, then gives its most quotable lines: “What came before, let wither away, and after, let there be nothing. If you don’t grasp at the middle, you will live at peace.” The three-part structure — before, after, and the middle — maps onto past, future, and present, and the instruction treats all three the same way: nothing to hold in any of them. It would be easy to assume the “middle” is simply the safe, neutral zone between two dangers, but the verse is explicit that grasping the present is just as capable of disturbing peace as clinging to memory or expectation.

Taking up and putting down

A smaller phrase earlier in the same answer is easy to pass over: “don’t be taking up or putting down anything at all.” Even “putting down” — ordinarily framed as the virtuous half of a taking-up/letting-go pair — is folded into what should simply not be happening. The point isn’t a special skill at releasing things one has picked up; it is to stop the whole activity of handling experience as something to be picked up or set down in the first place.

Rid of greed for name and form

The closing verse addresses Jatukaṇṇī as “brahmin” and names the scope of what must be released: greed “for the whole realm of name and form” (nāmarūpa), the classical pairing in early Buddhist analysis for a living being’s mental and physical constituents taken together. Someone rid of this greed “has no defilements by which they might fall under the sway of Death” — the same connection between grasping and Māra’s reach found throughout this chapter, here stated in terms not of time but of what a person is made of.

Key terms

khema — “sanctuary” or safety; the Buddha’s answer names renunciation (nekkhamma) as what should be seen this way.
before / after / the middle — the discourse’s three-part structure for total non-clinging across past, future, and present; note that the present (“the middle”) is treated as no safer to grasp than the other two.
nāmarūpa — “name and form,” the classical pairing for a being’s mental (nāma) and physical (rūpa) constituents; the discourse names greed for the whole of this as what must be released.
maccudheyya — “the domain of Death,” the territory grasping keeps a person within; recurs across several of the Pārāyanavagga’s sixteen questions.

The text

The discourse in full — five verses, the entirety of Jatukaṇṇī’s exchange with the Buddha. Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato (CC0, SuttaCentral).

§1“Hearing of the hero
with no desire for sensual pleasures,”
said Venerable Jatukaṇṇī,
“who has passed over the flood, I’ve come
with a question for that desireless one.
Tell me the state of peace, O natural visionary.
Tell me this, Blessed One, as it really is.

§2For, having mastered sensual desires,
the Blessed One proceeds,
as the blazing sun shines on the earth.
May you of vast wisdom explain the teaching
to me of little wisdom so that I may understand
the giving up of rebirth and old age here.”

§3“With desire for sensual pleasures dispelled,”
replied the Buddha,
“seeing renunciation as sanctuary,
don’t be taking up or putting down
anything at all.

§4What came before, let wither away,
and after, let there be nothing.
If you don’t grasp at the middle,
you will live at peace.

§5One rid of greed, brahmin,
for the whole realm of name and form,
has no defilements by which
they might fall under the sway of Death.”

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Self-check quiz

Ten questions. Click an answer to see immediate feedback. No score is recorded — this is for your own checking.

Question 1 of 10
How does Jatukaṇṇī describe having learned of the Buddha, according to the reading guide?
Correct: B. The reading guide compares this to how many people still approach teachers today.
Question 2 of 10
What image does Jatukaṇṇī use to describe the Buddha's progress?
Correct: C. This image appears in his opening verses, before he asks his direct question.
Question 3 of 10
What is the discourse's central three-part instruction on time?
Correct: D. All three — past, future, and present — are treated the same way: nothing to be held in any of them.
Question 4 of 10
According to the reading guide, why is it a mistake to assume "the middle" (the present) is simply a "safe" zone in this teaching?
Correct: A. All three time periods receive equal treatment in the instruction.
Question 5 of 10
What does the phrase "don't be taking up or putting down anything at all" suggest, according to the reading guide?
Correct: C. This is a smaller phrase in the answer that the reading guide flags as easy to pass over.
Question 6 of 10
What does the closing verse say must be released regarding "nāmarūpa" (name and form)?
Correct: B. Someone rid of this greed is said to have no defilements by which they might fall under Death's sway.
Question 7 of 10
What does Jatukaṇṇī specifically ask to understand "the giving up of," using nearly identical language to several other questioners in this vagga?
Correct: D. This exact phrase recurs in several of the sixteen questioners' requests across this vagga.
Question 8 of 10
What does the Buddha say should be seen as "sanctuary" (khema)?
Correct: A. This appears at the start of the Buddha's answer, alongside the dispelling of sensual desire.
Question 9 of 10
Jatukaṇṇī is which of Bāvarī's sixteen student-brahmins?
Correct: C. He follows Kappa (tenth) and precedes Bhadrāvudha (twelfth).
Question 10 of 10
What connects the closing line of this discourse to a recurring theme across the Pārāyanavagga's sixteen questions?
Correct: B. Here it is expressed in terms of what a person is made of (name and form) rather than time.
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