Sutta Nipāta · Discourse 5.14

The Questions of Udaya

Udayamānavapucchā

Setting
The Pāsāṇaka Shrine in Magadha, within Bāvarī’s frame narrative (see Snp 5.1)
Questioner
Udaya, the thirteenth of Bāvarī’s sixteen student-brahmins
Form
Seven verses in three linked exchanges, each building on the answer before it
Length
~2–3 minutes to read
Position
Thirteenth of sixteen questions in the Pārāyanavagga
Difficulty
★★★☆☆ — the most doctrinally dense of the eight questions in this batch

Why this discourse

Udaya’s exchange is the most tightly structured of this batch of eight questions: three separate exchanges, each picking up a term left unexplained by the one before it. He asks about liberation by enlightenment, then about what fetters the world and what ends that fettering, then about how consciousness itself ceases — each answer opening the next question, like a chain of increasingly precise definitions closing in on the same single point.

Reading guide

The teaching in one sentence

Liberation by enlightenment is the giving up of sensual desire and displeasure, dullness and remorse, together with pure equanimity and mindfulness preceded by investigation of principles; the world is fettered by delight and moved by thought, and ends with the giving up of craving; and consciousness itself ceases, for one living mindfully, by no longer taking pleasure in feeling, whether the feeling arises from within or from outside.

The first exchange: liberation by enlightenment

Udaya addresses the Buddha as one who has “completed the task, is free of defilements, and has gone beyond all things,” and asks for “the liberation by enlightenment, the smashing of ignorance.” The answer lists specific things given up together: sensual desires and displeasure (domanassa), dullness (thīna) cast aside, and remorse (kukkucca) prevented — joined by pure equanimity and mindfulness, “preceded by investigation of principles” (dhammavicaya). Readers familiar with the seven factors of awakening (bojjhaṅga) will recognize several of these terms; the verse reads almost like a compressed inventory of hindrances relinquished and awakening-factors present at once, rather than a step-by-step method.

The second exchange: what fetters the world

Udaya then asks a more structural question: “what fetters the world? How does it travel about? With the giving up of what is extinguishment spoken of?” The answer is compact: “delight fetters the world” (nandī), “it travels about by means of thought” (vitakka), and “with the giving up of craving, extinguishment is spoken of.” Three different mechanisms are named for three different questions — what holds the world in place, what keeps it moving, and what has to end for it to stop — and craving is identified as the answer only to the last of the three, not simply restated as a catch-all for all three at once.

The third exchange: how consciousness ceases

The final exchange narrows further still: “for one living mindfully, how does consciousness cease?” The answer is the shortest and most exact of the three: “not taking pleasure in feeling, internally and externally — for one living mindfully, that’s how consciousness ceases.” This connects to a wider teaching found elsewhere in the canon (notably SN 12.64) describing consciousness as needing delight in feeling as a kind of nutriment in order to remain “established” and continue producing future rebirth; withdraw that delight, and consciousness has nothing left to feed on and grow from.

A chain of definitions

Read together, the three exchanges trace a single thread from the most general question (what is liberation by enlightenment?) down to the most specific mechanism (what, exactly, stops consciousness from continuing?). Delight fastens the world in place; craving, once given up, ends the fastening; and the giving up of craving turns out, at the finest grain, to be simply this: no longer delighting in feeling, wherever it arises.

Key terms

dhammavicaya — “investigation of principles,” one of the seven factors of awakening; named here as preceding pure equanimity and mindfulness.
nandī — “delight,” identified as what fetters the world in place, distinct from the “thought” that keeps it moving and the “craving” whose ending is extinguishment.
vitakka — “thought” or directed thinking, named as the means by which the fettered world “travels about.”
consciousness and feeling — the discourse’s closing teaching, that consciousness ceases by no longer taking pleasure in feeling; compare the wider teaching on consciousness needing delight as a nutriment to remain established, found at SN 12.64.

The text

The discourse in full — seven verses across three linked exchanges. Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato (CC0, SuttaCentral).

§1“To the meditator, rid of hopes,”
said Venerable Udaya,
“who has completed the task, is free of defilements,
and has gone beyond all things,
I have come seeking with a question.
Tell me the liberation by enlightenment,
the smashing of ignorance.”

§2“The giving up of both”
replied the Buddha,
“sensual desires and displeasures;
the casting aside of dullness,
and the prevention of remorse;

§3pure equanimity and mindfulness,
preceded by investigation of principles—
this, I declare, is liberation by enlightenment,
the smashing of ignorance.”

§4“What fetters the world?
How does it travel about?
With the giving up of what
is extinguishment spoken of?”

§5“Delight fetters the world.
It travels about by means of thought.
With the giving up of craving
extinguishment is spoken of.”

§6“For one living mindfully,
how does consciousness cease?
We’ve come to ask you, worthy sir:
let us hear what you say.”

§7“Not taking pleasure in feeling
internally and externally—
for one living mindfully,
that’s how consciousness ceases.”

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Self-check quiz

Ten questions. Click an answer to see immediate feedback. No score is recorded — this is for your own checking.

Question 1 of 10
How many separate linked exchanges make up Udaya's questions, according to the reading guide?
Correct: D. This makes this discourse the most tightly structured of the eight questions in this batch.
Question 2 of 10
What does Udaya ask for in the first exchange?
Correct: B. He addresses the Buddha as one who has "completed the task" and "gone beyond all things."
Question 3 of 10
According to the reading guide, what does the first answer resemble?
Correct: C. Several terms overlap with the seven factors of awakening (bojjhaṅga).
Question 4 of 10
In the second exchange, what does the Buddha say "fetters the world"?
Correct: A. This is distinguished from what makes the world "travel about" and from what, when given up, is called extinguishment.
Question 5 of 10
According to this same exchange, how does the world "travel about"?
Correct: D. The reading guide notes that three different mechanisms are named for three different questions — not one catch-all answer.
Question 6 of 10
With the giving up of what is "extinguishment" (nibbāna) spoken of, according to this exchange?
Correct: B. Craving is named as the answer specifically to this third question, not simply restated for all three.
Question 7 of 10
In the third exchange, how does the Buddha say consciousness ceases for one living mindfully?
Correct: C. This is described as the shortest and most exact of the three exchanges.
Question 8 of 10
What wider canonical teaching does the reading guide connect to this closing exchange on consciousness?
Correct: A. Withdrawing delight leaves consciousness with nothing left to feed on and grow from.
Question 9 of 10
Udaya is which of Bāvarī's sixteen student-brahmins?
Correct: D. He follows Bhadrāvudha (twelfth) and precedes Posāla (fourteenth).
Question 10 of 10
How does the reading guide summarize the overall movement of Udaya's three exchanges?
Correct: B. Delight fastens the world in place; craving's ending unfastens it; and at the finest grain, that means no longer delighting in feeling.
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