Aṅguttara Nikāya · Discourse 10.172

Bad Principles (2nd)

Dutiyaadhammasutta — Jāṇussoṇivagga — the seventeenth chapter of the Tens, bookended by dialogues with the brahmin Jāṇussoṇi

Setting
None stated in the source
Speakers
The Buddha, the mendicants, and Venerable Mahākaccāna
Form
A brief recital left unexplained, mendicants seek out Mahākaccāna, his explanation, then the Buddha's own confirmation
Length
~3 minutes to read
Difficulty
★★★☆☆ — a full narrative with a famous parable embedded

Why this discourse

The Buddha gives AN 10.171's own summary in miniature, then simply leaves without explaining it — the mendicants, rather than following the Buddha directly, first approach Mahākaccāna, drawing his own memorable rebuke and, eventually, a word-for-word confirmation from the Buddha himself.

Reading guide

The teaching in one sentence

Each of the ten unskillful acts is a bad principle, its opposite a good principle; the many unskillful qualities each act produces are bad results, and the many skillful qualities its opposite develops are good results.

A recognizable narrative pattern from elsewhere in this canon

This discourse follows a well-known narrative template — the Buddha gives a brief summary recital, then retires without explaining it in detail, prompting the mendicants to seek out a senior disciple for the full explanation, which the Buddha later confirms matches exactly what he himself would have said — the same template already met in this project at AN 10.115's heartwood parable directed at Ānanda instead.

The heartwood parable, redirected at a new audience

Mahākaccāna's own rebuke reuses the identical heartwood image already met at AN 10.115: someone seeking heartwood who bypasses a tree's roots and trunk to search the branches and leaves instead — here aimed not at monks who bypassed the Buddha for Ānanda, but at monks who bypassed the Buddha for Mahākaccāna himself, the same rebuke applied by a different eminent disciple to describe the same basic error.

Mahākaccāna's own explanation, in full

Rather than simply restate the brief summary, Mahākaccāna methodically works through all ten acts, each time naming the act as a bad principle, its opposite as a good principle, and specifying that the “many bad, unskillful qualities” produced by the act (or the “many skillful qualities fully developed” by its opposite) are the results — a fuller unpacking of “result” than AN 10.171's own more compact version offered.

The Buddha's own confirmation, word for word

As at AN 10.115 with Ānanda, the Buddha confirms Mahākaccāna's explanation exactly matches what he himself would have said — “Mahākaccāna is astute, he has great wisdom” — the same structural trust placed in a second great disciple's own explanatory ability.

Key terms

uddesaṁ udditvā …vuṭṭhāsi — “gave this brief summary recital” then “got up from his seat” — the recurring narrative device already met at AN 10.115, prompting the mendicants to seek explanation elsewhere.
sāraṁ pariyesamāno — “in need of heartwood” — the parable's opening image, identical to AN 10.115's own version of the same rebuke.
Mahākaccāna — the senior disciple sought out in this discourse, playing the same structural role Ānanda played at AN 10.115.
saṅkhāya vadanto — “praised by the Buddha and esteemed by his sensible spiritual companions” — the mendicants' own reason for choosing to approach Mahākaccāna.
bahū akusalā dhammā sambhavanti — “the many bad, unskillful qualities produced” — Mahākaccāna's own fuller definition of “result,” expanding on AN 10.171's more compact phrasing.

The text

The discourse in full: the unexplained summary, Mahākaccāna's heartwood rebuke and detailed explanation, and the Buddha's own confirmation. Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato (CC0, SuttaCentral).

A summary, left unexplained

§1“Mendicants, you should know bad principles and good principles. And you should know bad results and good results. Knowing these things, your practice should follow the good principles with good results.” That is what the Buddha said. When he had spoken, the Holy One got up from his seat and entered his dwelling. Soon after the Buddha left, those mendicants considered, “The Buddha gave this brief summary recital, then entered his dwelling without explaining the meaning in detail. ‘You should know bad principles and good principles. And you should know bad results and good results. Knowing these things, your practice should follow the good principles with good results.’ Who can explain in detail the meaning of this brief summary recital given by the Buddha?” Then those mendicants thought, “This Venerable Mahākaccāna is praised by the Buddha and esteemed by his sensible spiritual companions. He is capable of explaining in detail the meaning of this brief summary recital given by the Buddha. Let’s go to him, and ask him about this matter. As he answers, so we’ll remember it.” Then those mendicants went to Mahākaccāna, and exchanged greetings with him. When the greetings and polite conversation were over, they sat down to one side. They told him what had happened, and said,

The mendicants approach Mahākaccāna

§2“May Venerable Mahākaccāna please explain this.” “Reverends, suppose there was a person in need of heartwood. And while wandering in search of heartwood he’d come across a large tree standing with heartwood. But he’d pass over the roots and trunk, imagining that the heartwood should be sought in the branches and leaves. Such is the consequence for the venerables. Though you were face to face with the Buddha, you bypassed him, imagining that you should ask me about this matter. For he is the Buddha, the one who knows and sees. He is vision, he is knowledge, he is the manifestation of principle, he is the manifestation of divinity. He is the teacher, the proclaimer, the elucidator of meaning, the bestower of freedom from death, the lord of truth, the Realized One. That was the time to approach the Buddha and ask about this matter. You should have remembered it in line with the Buddha’s answer.” “Certainly he is the Buddha, the one who knows and sees. He is vision, he is knowledge, he is the manifestation of principle, he is the manifestation of divinity. He is the teacher, the proclaimer, the elucidator of meaning, the bestower of freedom from death, the lord of truth, the Realized One. That was the time to approach the Buddha and ask about this matter. We should have remembered it in line with the Buddha’s answer. Still, Venerable Mahākaccāna is praised by the Buddha and esteemed by his sensible spiritual companions. He is capable of explaining in detail the meaning of this brief summary recital given by the Buddha. Please explain this, if it’s no trouble.”

Mahākaccāna's explanation

§3“Well then, reverends, listen and apply your mind well, I will speak.” “Yes, reverend,” they replied. Mahākaccāna said this: “Reverends, the Buddha gave this brief summary recital, then entered his dwelling without explaining the meaning in detail: ‘You should know bad principles and good principles … and practice accordingly.’ So what are bad principles? What are good principles? What are bad results? And what are good results? Killing living creatures is a bad principle. Not killing living creatures is a good principle. And the many bad, unskillful qualities produced by killing living creatures are bad results. And the many skillful qualities fully developed because of not killing living creatures are good results. Stealing is a bad principle. Not stealing is a good principle. And the many bad, unskillful qualities produced by stealing are bad results. And the many skillful qualities fully developed because of not stealing are good results. Sexual misconduct is a bad principle. Avoiding sexual misconduct is a good principle. And the many bad, unskillful qualities produced by sexual misconduct are bad results. And the many skillful qualities fully developed because of avoiding sexual misconduct are good results. Lying is a bad principle. Not lying is a good principle. And the many bad, unskillful qualities produced by lying are bad results. And the many skillful qualities fully developed because of not lying are good results. Backbiting is a bad principle. Avoiding backbiting is a good principle. And the many bad, unskillful qualities produced by backbiting are bad results. And the many skillful qualities fully developed because of avoiding backbiting are good results. Harsh speech is a bad principle. Avoiding harsh speech is a good principle. And the many bad, unskillful qualities produced by harsh speech are bad results. And the many skillful qualities fully developed because of avoiding harsh speech are good results. Talking nonsense is a bad principle. Avoiding talking nonsense is a good principle. And the many bad, unskillful qualities produced by talking nonsense are bad results. And the many skillful qualities fully developed because of avoiding talking nonsense are good results. Covetousness is a bad principle. Contentment is a good principle. And the many bad, unskillful qualities produced by covetousness are bad results. And the many skillful qualities fully developed because of contentment are good results. Ill will is a bad principle. Good will is a good principle. And the many bad, unskillful qualities produced by ill will are bad results. And the many skillful qualities fully developed because of good will are good results. Wrong view is a bad principle. Right view is a good principle. And the many bad, unskillful qualities produced by wrong view are bad results. And the many skillful qualities fully developed because of right view are good results. The Buddha gave this brief summary recital, then entered his dwelling without explaining the meaning in detail: ‘You should know bad principles and good principles … and practice accordingly.’ And this is how I understand the detailed meaning of this summary recital. If you wish, you may go to the Buddha and ask him about this. You should remember it in line with the Buddha’s answer.”

The Buddha's confirmation

§4“Yes, reverend,” said those mendicants, approving and agreeing with what Mahākaccāna said. Then they rose from their seats and went to the Buddha, bowed, sat down to one side, and told him what had happened. Then they said: “Sir, we went to Mahākaccāna and asked him about this matter. And Mahākaccāna clearly explained the meaning to us in this manner, with these words and phrases.” “Good, good, mendicants! Mahākaccāna is astute, he has great wisdom. If you came to me and asked this question, I would answer it in exactly the same way as Mahākaccāna. That is what it means, and that’s how you should remember it.”

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Self-check quiz

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Question 1 of 6
What does the Buddha do after giving a brief summary recital in this discourse?
Correct: B. The same narrative device already met at AN 10.115, prompting the mendicants to seek an explanation elsewhere.
Question 2 of 6
Which senior disciple do the mendicants approach for an explanation?
Correct: B. Playing the same structural role Ānanda played in the parallel narrative at AN 10.115.
Question 3 of 6
What rebuke does Mahākaccāna give the mendicants, according to the guide?
Correct: B. The same image, redirected at monks who bypassed the Buddha for Mahākaccāna instead of for Ānanda.
Question 4 of 6
How does Mahākaccāna's explanation of "result" compare to AN 10.171's own version, according to the guide?
Correct: B. A more thorough unpacking than the compact version given two discourses earlier.
Question 5 of 6
How does the Buddha respond when told of Mahākaccāna's explanation?
Correct: B. The same structural trust already placed in Ānanda's own explanation at AN 10.115.
Question 6 of 6
Where is this discourse set?
Correct: D. No location is given for this discourse.
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