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The teaching in one sentence
Sāriputta confirms Ānanda's question from personal experience: at the Dark Forest, he gained a state of immersion perceiving none of the usual objects as themselves, while one perception arose as another ceased — ‘the cessation of continued existence is extinguishment.’
The same question, a personal rather than general answer
Ānanda repeats to Sāriputta, word for word, the same elaborate question already put to the Buddha at AN 10.6. But where the Buddha answered with a general teaching formula, Sāriputta answers by recounting a specific occasion in his own past: ‘this one time I was staying right here at Sāvatthī in the Dark Forest.’
A perception replacing a perception
Sāriputta's own account adds a detail AN 10.6 didn't supply: not simply the absence of ordinary perceptions, but one perception directly arising as another ceases — the repeated realization ‘the cessation of continued existence is extinguishment’ replacing whatever perception came before it.
A burning pile of twigs
The simile closing this discourse is vivid and precise: flames in a burning pile of twigs arise and cease in continuous succession, never all present at once yet the fire itself continuous — matching exactly how Sāriputta describes one perception replacing another without any gap in perceiving itself.
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The same question, put to Sāriputta
§1Then Venerable Ānanda went up to Venerable Sāriputta, and exchanged greetings with him. When the greetings and polite conversation were over, he sat down to one side and said to Sāriputta: “Could it be, reverend Sāriputta, that a mendicant might gain a state of immersion like this? They wouldn’t perceive earth in earth, water in water, fire in fire, or air in air. And they wouldn’t perceive the dimension of infinite space in the dimension of infinite space, the dimension of infinite consciousness in the dimension of infinite consciousness, the dimension of nothingness in the dimension of nothingness, or the dimension of neither perception nor non-perception in the dimension of neither perception nor non-perception. And they wouldn’t perceive this world in this world, or the other world in the other world. And yet they would still perceive.” “It could be, Reverend Ānanda.”
A personal account, and a simile
§2“But how could this be?” “Reverend Ānanda, this one time I was staying right here at Sāvatthī in the Dark Forest. There I gained a state of immersion like this. I didn’t perceive earth in earth, water in water, fire in fire, or air in air. And I didn’t perceive the dimension of infinite space in the dimension of infinite space, the dimension of infinite consciousness in the dimension of infinite consciousness, the dimension of nothingness in the dimension of nothingness, or the dimension of neither perception nor non-perception in the dimension of neither perception nor non-perception. And I didn’t perceive this world in this world, or the other world in the other world. And yet I still perceived.” “But at that time what did Reverend Sāriputta perceive?” “One perception arose in me and another perception ceased: ‘The cessation of continued existence is extinguishment. The cessation of continued existence is extinguishment.’ Suppose there was a burning pile of twigs. One flame would arise and another would cease. In the same way, one perception arose in me and another perception ceased: ‘The cessation of continued existence is extinguishment. The cessation of continued existence is extinguishment.’ At that time I perceived that the cessation of continued existence is extinguishment.”
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