Aṅguttara Nikāya · Discourse 10.89

With Kokālika

Kokālikasutta — Theravagga — the ninth chapter of the Tens

Setting
None stated in the source
Speakers
The mendicant Kokālika, the Buddha, the divinity Tudu, and later the divinity Sahampati
Form
A three-part narrative: refused slander, supernatural affliction, and a nested astronomical simile for hell's duration
Length
~4 minutes to read
Difficulty
★★★★☆ — vivid, disturbing, and structurally intricate

Why this discourse

Immediately dramatizing AN 10.88's bare warning, this discourse follows the mendicant Kokālika from a three-times-refused slander of Sāriputta and Moggallāna through a grotesque physical affliction to rebirth in one of the most severe hells named anywhere in this canon — measured by a simile of almost incomprehensible scale.

Reading guide

The teaching in one sentence

Kokālika slanders Sāriputta and Moggallāna to the Buddha three times, is refused and corrected three times, and leaves anyway; his body erupts in boils that grow through eight successive stages until he dies, reborn in the Pink Lotus hell for his resentment toward two noble disciples — a hell whose duration a later simile measures as almost unimaginably long.

Three refusals, ignored anyway

The Buddha does not simply disagree with Kokālika once: he refuses the slander in identical words three separate times — “Don't say that, Kokālika! Have confidence in Sāriputta and Moggallāna, they're good monks” — and Kokālika persists through all three, departing unconvinced rather than accepting correction even once.

A returning non-returner, and a wasted final warning

Before Kokālika's fate is sealed, the divinity Tudu — identified as a non-returner the Buddha had already declared attained — appears specifically to warn him, prompting Kokālika's own startled question, “Didn't the Buddha declare you a non-returner? So what then are you doing back here?” Even this extraordinary intervention, from someone who had seemingly moved beyond ordinary rebirth, changes nothing.

A ten-hell chain measuring the unmeasurable

When a mendicant later asks how long a lifespan in the Pink Lotus hell actually is, the Buddha answers not with a number but with a nested nine-step chain of ever larger units: a Kosalan cartload of twenty packs of sesame seed, depleted one seed every century, exhausts faster than a single lifetime in the mildest of ten named hells — and each hell's lifespan equals twenty full lifetimes in the hell below it, all the way up to the Pink Lotus hell itself, ten levels above the sesame seed's own already vast timescale.

Key terms

mā hevaṁ, kokālika — “don't say that, Kokālika!” — the Buddha's identical refusal, repeated three times without variation as Kokālika repeats his slander.
pasādehi, kokālika, sāriputtamoggallānesu cittaṁ — “have confidence in Sāriputta and Moggallāna” — the second half of the Buddha's refrain, repeated alongside the refusal each time.
Tudu — the independent divinity, previously declared a non-returner, who makes a final, ultimately futile attempt to warn Kokālika.
padumaṁ nirayaṁ — the “Pink Lotus hell,” the specific destination named for Kokālika's rebirth, and the most severe of the ten named hells in the closing simile's chain.
purisassa hi jātassa, kuṭhārī jāyate mukhe — “a person is born with an axe in their mouth” — the opening line of the verse warning against speech that wounds its speaker.

The text

The discourse in full: Kokālika's threefold slander and refusal, his affliction and death, Tudu's warning and verse, and the Buddha's own closing account with its astronomical hell-duration simile. Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato (CC0, SuttaCentral).

A threefold slander, threefold refused

§1Then the mendicant Kokālika went up to the Buddha, bowed, sat down to one side, and said to him, “Sir, Sāriputta and Moggallāna have corrupt wishes. They’ve fallen under the sway of corrupt wishes.” “Don’t say that, Kokālika! Don’t say that, Kokālika! Have confidence in Sāriputta and Moggallāna, they’re good monks.” For a second time Kokālika said to the Buddha, “Despite my faith and trust in the Buddha, Sāriputta and Moggallāna have corrupt wishes. They’ve fallen under the sway of corrupt wishes.” “Don’t say that, Kokālika! Don’t say that, Kokālika! Have confidence in Sāriputta and Moggallāna, they’re good monks.” For a third time Kokālika said to the Buddha, “Despite my faith and trust in the Buddha, Sāriputta and Moggallāna have corrupt wishes. They’ve fallen under the sway of corrupt wishes.” “Don’t say that, Kokālika! Don’t say that, Kokālika! Have confidence in Sāriputta and Moggallāna, they’re good monks.” Then Kokālika got up from his seat, bowed, and respectfully circled the Buddha, keeping him on his right, before leaving.

Boils, and Tudu's warning

§2Not long after he left his body erupted with boils the size of mustard seeds. The boils grew to the size of mung beans, then chickpeas, then jujube seeds, then jujubes, then myrobalans, then unripe wood-apples, then ripe wood-apples. Finally they burst open, and pus and blood oozed out. He just laid down on banana leaves like a poisoned fish. Then Tudu the independent divinity went to Kokālika, and standing in the air he said to him, “Kokālika, have confidence in Sāriputta and Moggallāna, they’re good monks.” “Who are you, reverend?” “I am Tudu the independent divinity.” “Didn’t the Buddha declare you a non-returner? So what then are you doing back here? See how far you have strayed!” Then Tudu addressed Kokālika in verse: “A person is born with an axe in their mouth. A fool cuts themselves with it when they say bad words. When you praise someone worthy of criticism, or criticize someone worthy of praise, you choose a losing hand with your own mouth: you’ll never find happiness that way. A losing hand at dice is a trivial thing, if all you lose is your money and all you own, even yourself. What’s a really terrible hand is to hate the holy ones.

Death, rebirth, and the news reaches the Buddha

§3For a hundred thousand times a hundred million times five hundred and thirty-six times a thousand times ten million years a slanderer of noble ones goes to hell, having aimed bad words and thoughts at them.” Then the mendicant Kokālika died of that illness. He was reborn in the Pink Lotus hell because of his resentment for Sāriputta and Moggallāna. Then, late at night, the glorious divinity Sahampati, lighting up the entire Jeta’s Grove, went up to the Buddha, bowed, stood to one side, and said to him, “Sir, the mendicant Kokālika has passed away. He was reborn in the pink lotus hell because of his resentment for Sāriputta and Moggallāna.” That’s what the divinity Sahampati said. Then he bowed and respectfully circled the Buddha, keeping him on his right side, before vanishing right there. Then, when the night had passed, the Buddha told the mendicants all that had happened.

How long is a lifetime in hell?

§4When he said this, one of the mendicants asked the Buddha, “Sir, how long is the lifespan in the Pink Lotus hell?” “It’s long, mendicant. It’s not easy to calculate how many years, how many hundreds or thousands or hundreds of thousands of years it lasts.” “But sir, is it possible to give a simile?” “It’s possible,” said the Buddha. “Suppose there was a Kosalan load of twenty packs of sesame seed. And at the end of every hundred years someone would remove a single seed from it. By this means the Kosalan load of twenty packs of sesame seed would run out faster than a single lifetime in the Abbuda hell. Now, twenty lifetimes in the Abbuda hell equal one lifetime in the Nirabbuda hell. Twenty lifetimes in the Nirabbuda hell equal one lifetime in the Ababa hell. Twenty lifetimes in the Ababa hell equal one lifetime in the Aṭaṭa hell. Twenty lifetimes in the Aṭaṭa hell equal one lifetime in the Ahaha hell. Twenty lifetimes in the Ahaha hell equal one lifetime in the Yellow Lotus hell. Twenty lifetimes in the Yellow Lotus hell equal one lifetime in the Fragrant Water Lily hell. Twenty lifetimes in the Fragrant Water Lily hell equal one lifetime in the Blue Water Lily hell. Twenty lifetimes in the Blue Water Lily hell equal one lifetime in the White Lotus hell. Twenty lifetimes in the White Lotus hell equal one lifetime in the Pink Lotus hell. The mendicant Kokālika has been reborn in the Pink Lotus hell because of his resentment for Sāriputta and Moggallāna.” That is what the Buddha said. Then the Holy One, the Teacher, went on to say: “A person is born with an axe in their mouth. A fool cuts themselves with it when they say bad words. When you praise someone worthy of criticism, or criticize someone worthy of praise, you choose a losing hand with your own mouth: you’ll never find happiness that way. A losing hand at dice is a trivial thing, if all you lose is your money and all you own, even yourself. What’s a really terrible hand is to hate the holy ones. For a hundred thousand times a hundred million, times five hundred and thirty-six times a thousand times ten million years a slanderer of noble ones goes to hell, having aimed bad words and thoughts at them.”

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Self-check quiz

5 questions. Click an answer to see immediate feedback. No score is recorded — this is for your own checking.

Question 1 of 5
What does Kokālika say to the Buddha, and how many times?
Correct: B. A threefold repetition met with an identical, unchanging refusal each time.
Question 2 of 5
Who is Tudu, and what is unusual about his appearance?
Correct: B. Even an extraordinary intervention proves unable to avert Kokālika's fate.
Question 3 of 5
What happens to Kokālika's body after he leaves the Buddha?
Correct: B. A graphic, escalating physical affliction leading to death.
Question 4 of 5
How does the Buddha answer the question of how long a lifetime in the Pink Lotus hell lasts?
Correct: B. A deliberately near-incomprehensible scale, built step by step.
Question 5 of 5
Why is Kokālika reborn in hell, according to this discourse?
Correct: B. The specific consequence of denouncing the noble ones, dramatizing AN 10.88's warning.
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