Aṅguttara Nikāya · Discourse 9.4

With Nandaka

Nandakasutta — Sambodhivagga — the first chapter of the Nines

Setting
Sāvatthī, in Jeta’s Grove, Anāthapiṇḍika’s monastery
Speakers
The Buddha, Venerable Nandaka, and the assembled mendicants
Form
A narrative opening with gentle humor, a four-statement progression with a simile, then Nandaka's own added teaching on five benefits
Length
~5 minutes to read
Two teachings, two teachers
The Buddha gives the four-statement progression; Nandaka, repeating it to the mendicants, adds a further five benefits of his own
Difficulty
★★☆☆☆ — a narrative frame carrying two distinct teachings

Why this discourse

The Buddha waits outside the door while Nandaka gives a long Dhamma talk, then teases him about his aching back before teaching a four-statement progression toward a spiritual practice “entirely full and pure” — faithful, then ethical, then internally serene, then wise — which Nandaka repeats to the mendicants and caps with five benefits of listening to and discussing the teachings at the right time.

Reading guide

The teaching in one sentence

A spiritual practice is entirely full and pure only once a mendicant is faithful and ethical, gets internal serenity of heart, and gets the higher wisdom of discernment of principles — each stage incomplete, like a lame four-footed animal, until the next is added.

A backache, met with humor

The Buddha stands outside the assembly hall waiting for Nandaka's talk to end, then greets him not with a rebuke but with a wry complaint about his aching back — Nandaka's embarrassment, and the Buddha's immediate reassurance (“good, good, Nandaka”), frame the substantial teaching that follows.

Four statements, one simile

The progression moves through four additions — faith and ethics, then internal serenity, then the higher wisdom of discernment of principles — each stage declared incomplete until the next is fulfilled, illustrated by a lame four-footed animal that remains disabled no matter how sound its other three legs.

Nandaka adds his own five benefits

After the Buddha leaves, Nandaka repeats the four-statement teaching to the assembly and adds a teaching of his own: five benefits of listening to and discussing the teachings at the right time, ranging from becoming liked and respected by the Teacher to inspiring both trainees still striving and perfected ones already free.

Key terms

kevalaparipuṇṇaṁ parisuddhaṁ brahmacariyaṁ — “a spiritual practice that's entirely full and pure” — what the four-statement progression builds toward.
catuppadaṁ jarasiṅgālaṁ — the lame four-footed animal simile — illustrating incompleteness so long as any one of the four stages is missing.
ajjhattaṁ cetosamathaṁ — “internal serenity of heart” — the third stage, following faith and ethics and preceding higher wisdom.
adhipaññādhammavipassanā — “the higher wisdom of discernment of principles” — the fourth and final stage of the progression.
kālena dhammassavanassa, kālena dhammasākacchāya — “listening to the teachings at the right time... discussing the teachings at the right time” — Nandaka's own added teaching, naming its five benefits.

The text

The discourse in full: a backache met with humor, a four-statement progression with its simile, and Nandaka's own five benefits of timely teaching. Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato (CC0, SuttaCentral).

A long talk, and an aching back

§1At one time the Buddha was staying near Sāvatthī in Jeta’s Grove, Anāthapiṇḍika’s monastery. Now at that time Venerable Nandaka was educating, encouraging, firing up, and inspiring the mendicants in the assembly hall with a Dhamma talk. Then in the late afternoon, the Buddha came out of retreat and went to the assembly hall. He stood outside the door waiting for the talk to end. When he knew the talk had ended he cleared his throat and knocked on the door-panel. The mendicants opened the door for the Buddha, and he entered the assembly hall, where he sat on the seat spread out. He said to Nandaka, “Nandaka, that was a long exposition of the teaching you gave to the mendicants. My back was aching while I stood outside the door waiting for the talk to end.” When he said this, Nandaka felt embarrassed and said to the Buddha, “Sir, we didn’t know that the Buddha was standing outside the door. If we’d known, I wouldn’t have said so much.”

Four statements, one simile

§2Then the Buddha, knowing that Nandaka was embarrassed, said to him, “Good, good, Nandaka! It’s appropriate for gentlemen like you, who have gone forth out of faith from the lay life to homelessness, to sit together for a Dhamma talk. When you’re sitting together you should do one of two things: discuss the teachings or keep noble silence. Nandaka, a mendicant is faithful but not ethical. So they’re incomplete in that respect, and should fulfill it, thinking, ‘How can I become faithful and ethical?’ When a mendicant is faithful and ethical, they’re complete in that respect. A mendicant is faithful and ethical, but does not get internal serenity of heart. So they’re incomplete in that respect, and should fulfill it, thinking, ‘How can I become faithful and ethical and get internal serenity of heart?’ When a mendicant is faithful and ethical and gets internal serenity of heart, they’re complete in that respect. A mendicant is faithful, ethical, and gets internal serenity of heart, but they don’t get the higher wisdom of discernment of principles. So they’re incomplete in that respect. Suppose, Nandaka, there was a four-footed animal that was lame and disabled. It would be incomplete in that respect. In the same way, a mendicant is faithful, ethical, and gets internal serenity of heart, but they don’t get the higher wisdom of discernment of principles. So they’re incomplete in that respect, and should fulfill it, thinking, ‘How can I become faithful and ethical and get internal serenity of heart and get the higher wisdom of discernment of principles?’ When a mendicant is faithful and ethical and gets internal serenity of heart and gets the higher wisdom of discernment of principles, they’re complete in that respect.”

§3That is what the Buddha said. When he had spoken, the Holy One got up from his seat and entered his dwelling.

Nandaka repeats it, and adds five benefits

§4Then soon after the Buddha left, Venerable Nandaka said to the mendicants, “Just now, reverends, the Buddha explained a spiritual practice that’s entirely full and pure in four statements, before getting up from his seat and entering his dwelling: ‘Nandaka, a mendicant is faithful but not ethical. So they’re incomplete in that respect, and should fulfill it, thinking, “How can I become faithful and ethical?” When a mendicant is faithful and ethical, they’re complete in that respect. A mendicant is faithful and ethical, but does not get internal serenity of heart. … They get internal serenity of heart, but they don’t get the higher wisdom of discernment of principles. So they’re incomplete in that respect. Suppose, Nandaka, there was a four-footed animal that was lame and disabled. It would be incomplete in that respect. In the same way, a mendicant is faithful, ethical, and gets internal serenity of heart, but they don’t get the higher wisdom of discernment of principles. So they’re incomplete in that respect, and should fulfill it, thinking: “How can I become faithful and ethical and get internal serenity of heart and get the higher wisdom of discernment of principles?” When a mendicant is faithful and ethical and gets internal serenity of heart and gets the higher wisdom of discernment of principles, they’re complete in that respect.’

§5Reverends, there are these five benefits of listening to the teachings at the right time and discussing the teachings at the right time. What five? Firstly, a mendicant proclaims a teaching to the mendicants that is good in the beginning, good in the middle, and good in the end, meaningful and well-phrased. And they reveal a spiritual practice that’s entirely full and pure. Whenever they do this, they become liked and approved by the Teacher, respected and admired. This is the first benefit …

§6Furthermore, a mendicant teaches the mendicants the Dhamma … Whenever they do this, they feel inspired by the meaning and the teaching in that Dhamma. This is the second benefit …

§7Furthermore, a mendicant teaches the mendicants the Dhamma … Whenever they do this, they see the meaning of a deep saying in that Dhamma with penetrating wisdom. This is the third benefit …

§8Furthermore, a mendicant teaches the mendicants the Dhamma … Whenever they do this, their spiritual companions esteem them more highly, thinking, ‘For sure this venerable has attained or will attain.’ This is the fourth benefit …

§9Furthermore, a mendicant teaches the mendicants the Dhamma … Whenever they do this, there may be trainee mendicants present, who haven’t achieved their heart’s desire, but live aspiring to the supreme sanctuary from the yoke. Hearing that teaching, they rouse energy for attaining the unattained, achieving the unachieved, and realizing the unrealized. There may be perfected mendicants present, who have ended the defilements, completed the spiritual journey, done what had to be done, laid down the burden, achieved their heart’s goal, utterly ended the fetter of continued existence, and are rightly freed through enlightenment. Hearing that teaching, they simply live happily in this life. This is the fifth benefit … These are the five benefits of listening to the teachings at the right time and discussing the teachings at the right time.”

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Self-check quiz

6 questions. Click an answer to see immediate feedback. No score is recorded — this is for your own checking.

Question 1 of 6
Why does the Buddha tease Nandaka about his back?
Correct: B. Gentle humor, met with immediate reassurance once Nandaka is embarrassed.
Question 2 of 6
What four stages make up the progression toward a spiritual practice “entirely full and pure”?
Correct: A. Each stage incomplete until the next is added.
Question 3 of 6
What simile illustrates incompleteness in this progression?
Correct: B. Missing any one stage leaves the whole practice incomplete.
Question 4 of 6
Who adds the five benefits of timely teaching, and to whom?
Correct: B. Two distinct teachings from two different teachers within the same discourse.
Question 5 of 6
According to the five benefits, who is inspired by hearing timely teaching?
Correct: B. The fifth benefit names both kinds of listener.
Question 6 of 6
Where is this discourse set?
Correct: B. The same setting as AN 9.1, though not explicitly restated at AN 9.2 or 9.3.
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