Saṃyutta Nikāya · Discourse 11.10

Seers by the Ocean

Samuddakasutta

Setting
Sāvatthī — the Buddha narrating a story from the world of the gods
Speakers
The Buddha, addressing the mendicants; within the story, a group of ethical seers and Sambara, lord of the titans
Form
A narrated episode built around a request refused and a curse answered in kind
Length
~3.5 minutes to read
Northern parallel
A rough counterpart may exist in the Chinese Saṃyukta-āgama (T99), though this reading guide does not assert a specific matching sutra number
Difficulty
★★☆☆☆ — closes Paṭhamavagga with a sharper, less gentle episode than most of this chapter

Why this discourse

Watching a war break out between gods and titans, a group of ocean-shore seers make an explicit moral judgment — the gods are principled, the titans are not — and, expecting danger from the unprincipled side, approach Sambara, lord of the titans, to beg for a pledge of safety anyway. Sambara's answer is blunt cruelty: no safety for seers who associate with Sakka, only fear. The seers' reply doesn't plead further; it curses him in return, grounding the curse explicitly in the law that whatever seed is sown returns as its matching fruit — and the closing line shows that curse taking effect.

Reading guide

A judgment stated outright, not left implicit

The seers don't quietly hope for the best from either side; they explicitly reason through the situation — gods principled, titans not — before deciding to act, making their moral assessment part of the story rather than something readers must infer.

Approaching the danger directly, not avoiding it

Having judged the titans as the greater risk, the seers don't retreat further into hiding; they go straight to Sambara himself to request safety, a choice that puts them in front of exactly the figure they have reason to fear.

A refusal with no diplomatic softening

Sambara doesn't decline evasively or offer partial terms; his answer is total and pointed, naming the seers as hated specifically for their association with Sakka before promising them only fear.

A curse framed as a teaching, not just an outburst

The seers' response to this refusal isn't simply an angry retort; it's built around an explicit statement of the law of karma — that whatever seed is sown returns as its matching fruit — making the curse itself an application of a stated principle.

A closing chapter, its structure now visible

This discourse closes Paṭhamavagga, the saṃyutta's first chapter of ten; the closing summary verse lists all ten discourse titles in sequence, confirming the chapter's full shape from Suvīra's negligence through this closing curse.

Key terms

dhammikā kho devā, adhammikā asurā — “the gods are principled, the titans are unprincipled” — the seers' explicit moral judgment, stated before they act on it.
abhayadakkhiṇaṁ yāceyyāma — “beg for a pledge of safety” — the seers' direct request to Sambara, approaching the danger rather than avoiding it.
seyyathāpi nāma balavā puriso samiñjitaṁ vā bāhaṁ pasāreyya — “as easily as a strong person would extend or contract their arm” — the vivid simile describing the seers' instantaneous travel.
isīnaṁ abhayaṁ natthi… bhayameva dadāmi vo — “there is no safety for seers… I'll only give you fear” — Sambara's blunt, total refusal.
yādisaṁ vapate bījaṁ, tādisaṁ harate phalaṁ — “whatever kind of seed you sow, that is the fruit you reap” — the law of karma the seers invoke in cursing Sambara.

The text

The discourse in full, closing Paṭhamavagga. The chapter's closing summary verse, listing all ten discourse titles, is a structural index and is not reproduced as running prose here. Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato (CC0, SuttaCentral).

§1At Sāvatthī. “Once upon a time, mendicants, several seers who were ethical, of good character, settled in leaf huts on the ocean shore. Now at that time a battle was fought between the gods and the titans. Then the seers thought, ‘The gods are principled, the titans are unprincipled. We may be at risk from the titans. Why don’t we approach Sambara, lord of titans, and beg him for a pledge of safety?’

§2Then, as easily as a strong person would extend or contract their arm, those seers vanished from those leaf huts on the ocean shore and reappeared in Sambara’s presence. Then those seers addressed Sambara in verse:

§3‘The seers have come to Sambara to beg for a pledge of safety. For you can give them what you wish, whether danger or safety.’

§4‘There is no safety for seers, the hated associates of Sakka! Though you beg me for your safety, I’ll only give you fear!’

§5‘Though we beg you for our safety, you give us only fear. This is what we get from you: may endless peril come to you! Whatever kind of seed you sow, that is the fruit you reap. A doer of good gets good, a doer of bad gets bad. You, my dear, have sown your own seed, now you’ll experience the fruit.’

§6Then those seers, having cursed Sambara, as easily as a strong person would extend or contract their arm, vanished from Sambara’s presence and reappeared in those leaf huts on the ocean shore. But after being cursed by the seers, Sambara woke in alarm three times that night.”

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Self-check quiz

Ten questions. Click an answer to see immediate feedback. No score is recorded — this is for your own checking.

Question 1 of 10
What moral judgment do the seers make about gods and titans?
Correct: A. An explicit assessment stated outright, not left implicit.
Question 2 of 10
What do the seers decide to do after this judgment?
Correct: A. Approaching the danger directly rather than avoiding it.
Question 3 of 10
How do the seers travel to Sambara's presence?
Correct: A. A vivid simile describing their instantaneous travel.
Question 4 of 10
How does Sambara respond to the seers' request for safety?
Correct: A. No diplomatic softening in his answer.
Question 5 of 10
Why does Sambara say he refuses to grant the seers safety?
Correct: A. Named specifically as the reason for his hostility.
Question 6 of 10
What principle do the seers invoke in cursing Sambara?
Correct: A. An explicit statement of the law of karma underlying the curse.
Question 7 of 10
What effect does the seers' curse have on Sambara, according to the closing line?
Correct: A. A concrete sign the curse takes hold.
Question 8 of 10
What does this discourse close, structurally, within Sakkasaṃyutta?
Correct: A. Confirmed by the chapter's closing summary verse listing all ten titles.
Question 9 of 10
Where are these seers settled, distinguishing them from SN 11.9's seers?
Correct: A. A different setting from the wilderness hermitage of the previous discourse.
Question 10 of 10
Where does the Buddha narrate this story to the monks?
Correct: A. The consistent setting across this saṃyutta's opening discourses.
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