Saṃyutta Nikāya · Discourse 22.135

With Koṭṭhita (3rd)

Tatiyakoṭṭhitasutta — Avijjāvagga

Setting
Varanasi ("the same setting")
Speakers
Venerable Sāriputta questioning Venerable Mahākoṭṭhita
Form
Both ignorance and knowledge addressed within a single discourse, using the four-point formula that opened this vagga's larger project at SN 22.113
Length
Medium — matching SN 22.133-134's own combined format
Northern parallel
Returns to the same origin/cessation/practice formula used at SN 22.113-114, the earliest discourses in this book to address this exact question
Difficulty
Moderate — best appreciated as the close of a ten-discourse systematic sequence

Why this discourse

Closes Avijjāvagga by returning full circle to where this whole line of inquiry began: SN 22.113's own four-point origin/cessation/practice formula, now given in the reversed Sāriputta-questions-Koṭṭhita direction and the combined single-discourse format — completing a systematic tour through every criterion this book has used to define ignorance and knowledge.

Reading guide

"The same setting" — a minimal, confident notice

"The same setting" (tattheva) opens this discourse — the briefest possible setting notice in this entire vagga, trusting the reader to carry forward Varanasi and Isipatana from the discourses immediately before it without needing either restated.

Returning to the formula that started it all

"It's when an unlearned ordinary person doesn't understand form, its origin, its cessation, and the practice that leads to its cessation" — the exact four-point formula from SN 22.113, word for word, now placed in Koṭṭhita's mouth answering Sāriputta rather than in the Buddha's own voice answering an unnamed mendicant.

This return is not accidental: of all the criteria available to close this vagga with, the discourse chooses specifically the one that opened this entire question at SN 22.113 — the vagga's own name, Avijjāvagga, and its closing discourse both point back to that same origin.

A complete circuit, reviewed

Across ten discourses, Avijjāvagga has now applied four distinct criteria (origin/cessation/practice at SN 22.113 and again here; originate/vanish/both at SN 22.126-128; gratification/drawback/escape at SN 22.129-130 and 133; the five-point combination at SN 22.131-132 and 134) across every combination of speaker (Buddha, Sāriputta, Koṭṭhita), direction (Koṭṭhita-asks, Sāriputta-asks), and format (combined, split) available to it.

Closing without a colophon, into Kukkuḷavagga

As with several vaggas earlier in this book, no explicit closing formula marks the end of Avijjāvagga in the source text — the vagga simply concludes on this returning formula, before Uparipaṇṇāsaka's fourth vagga, Kukkuḷavagga, begins at SN 22.136.

Key terms

tattheva — "the same setting" — this discourse's minimal opening, the briefest setting notice in this vagga
samudaya/nirodha/nirodhagāminī paṭipadā — origin / cessation / the practice leading to cessation — the exact formula returning from SN 22.113, closing the circuit this vagga opened
avijjā/vijjā — ignorance and knowledge — both addressed within this single closing discourse
āvuso Koṭṭhita — "Reverend Koṭṭhita" — Sāriputta's continued form of address in this reversed direction
Avijjāvagga — the vagga's own name, taken from its opening theme and confirmed by this closing discourse's return to that same formula

The text

The complete discourse, closing Avijjāvagga with a return to SN 22.113's own original four-point formula. Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato (CC0, SuttaCentral).

§1The same setting. Sāriputta said to Mahākoṭṭhita: “Reverend Koṭṭhita, they speak of this thing called ‘ignorance’. What is ignorance? And how is an ignoramus defined?”

§2“Reverend, it’s when an unlearned ordinary person doesn’t understand form, its origin, its cessation, and the practice that leads to its cessation. They don’t understand feeling … perception … choices … consciousness, its origin, its cessation, and the practice that leads to its cessation. This is called ignorance. And this is how an ignoramus is defined.”

§3When he said this, Venerable Sāriputta said to him: “Reverend Koṭṭhita, they speak of this thing called ‘knowledge’. What is knowledge? And how is a knowing one defined?”

§4“Reverend, it’s when a learned noble disciple understands form, its origin, its cessation, and the practice that leads to its cessation. They understand feeling … perception … choices … consciousness, its origin, its cessation, and the practice that leads to its cessation. This is called knowledge. And this is how a knowing one is defined.”

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Self-check quiz

Ten questions. Click an answer to see immediate feedback. No score is recorded — this is for your own checking.

Question 1 of 10
What setting notice opens this discourse?
Correct: A. Trusting the reader to carry forward the setting from the discourses immediately before it.
Question 2 of 10
What formula does this closing discourse return to?
Correct: A. Word for word, the exact formula that opened this whole line of inquiry.
Question 3 of 10
Who speaks this formula in this discourse, compared to SN 22.113?
Correct: A. The same content, now delivered by different speakers in a different direction.
Question 4 of 10
How many distinct criteria has Avijjāvagga applied across its ten discourses?
Correct: A. Origin/cessation/practice, originate/vanish/both, the gratification triad, and the five-point combination.
Question 5 of 10
What combinations has this vagga systematically explored?
Correct: A. Buddha, Sāriputta, and Koṭṭhita as speakers; both questioning directions; combined and split formats.
Question 6 of 10
How does this discourse close, according to the source text?
Correct: A. As with several vaggas earlier in this book, no closing formula appears.
Question 7 of 10
What vagga follows Avijjāvagga in Uparipaṇṇāsaka?
Correct: A. The fourth of Uparipaṇṇāsaka's five vaggas, beginning at SN 22.136.
Question 8 of 10
Why is returning to SN 22.113's formula specifically fitting for this closing discourse?
Correct: A. The vagga's own name, Avijjāvagga, and its closing discourse both trace back to that same origin.
Question 9 of 10
How many aggregates does this closing formula apply to?
Correct: A. Form, feeling, perception, choices, and consciousness, as throughout this vagga.
Question 10 of 10
Who questions whom in this closing discourse?
Correct: A. Continuing the reversed direction established at SN 22.133-134.
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