Saṃyutta Nikāya · Discourse 22.134

With Koṭṭhita (2nd)

Dutiyakoṭṭhitasutta — Avijjāvagga

Setting
Varanasi
Speakers
Venerable Sāriputta questioning Venerable Mahākoṭṭhita
Form
Both ignorance and knowledge addressed within a single discourse, using the five-point formula
Length
Medium — matching SN 22.133's own combined format
Northern parallel
Shares its formula with SN 22.131-132 and its combined format with SN 22.126 and SN 22.133
Difficulty
Moderate — best read directly after SN 22.133

Why this discourse

Continues SN 22.133's reversed direction — Sāriputta still questioning Koṭṭhita — now applying this vagga's fullest criterion, the five-point origin/disappearance/gratification/drawback/escape formula, combining ignorance and knowledge within a single discourse as SN 22.133 did before it.

Reading guide

The reversed direction, continued

"Reverend Koṭṭhita, they speak of this thing called 'ignorance'" — Sāriputta remains the questioner here, exactly as in SN 22.133, confirming this is not an isolated instance but a settled reversal running through the vagga's final stretch.

The fullest criterion, in the combined format

"An unlearned ordinary person doesn't truly understand the origin, the disappearance, the gratification, the drawback, and the escape" for ignorance, then the identical five points inverted for knowledge — the same formula as SN 22.131-132, but now presented together in one discourse rather than split across two, exactly as SN 22.133 did for the triad.

A pattern of pairing criterion with format

Reading across this vagga's nine discourses so far reveals a consistent method: each criterion receives both a split presentation (in the earlier, Koṭṭhita-questions-Sāriputta discourses) and a combined presentation (in this later, reversed-direction set) — SN 22.126 combined the opening criterion, SN 22.127-128 split it; SN 22.129-130 split the triad, SN 22.133 combined it; SN 22.131-132 split the five-point formula, this discourse combines it.

One discourse remaining

SN 22.135 closes Avijjāvagga, continuing this same reversed direction and combined format, but returning to a fourth and final criterion — SN 22.113's own original four-point origin/cessation/practice formula — completing the vagga's systematic tour through every technical vocabulary this book has offered for defining ignorance and knowledge.

Key terms

samudaya/atthaṅgama/assāda/ādīnava/nissaraṇa — origin / disappearance / gratification / drawback / escape — the same five-point formula already used at SN 22.131-132
āvuso Koṭṭhita — "Reverend Koṭṭhita" — confirming Sāriputta's continued role as questioner
avijjā/vijjā — ignorance and knowledge — both addressed within this single discourse
Isipatana — the deer park near Varanasi, the implied continuing setting for this dialogue
Bārāṇasī — Varanasi — this discourse's own brief setting notice

The text

The complete discourse: both the ignorance and knowledge questions, using the five-point formula in the same combined format as SN 22.133. Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato (CC0, SuttaCentral).

§1At Varanasi. “Reverend Koṭṭhita, they speak of this thing called ‘ignorance’. What is ignorance? And how is an ignoramus defined?”

§2“Reverend, an unlearned ordinary person doesn’t truly understand the origin, the disappearance, the gratification, the drawback, and the escape when it comes to form, feeling, perception, choices, and consciousness. This is called ignorance. And this is how an ignoramus is defined.”

§3When he said this, Venerable Sāriputta said to him: “Reverend Koṭṭhita, they speak of this thing called ‘knowledge’. What is knowledge? And how is a knowing one defined?”

§4“Reverend, a learned noble disciple truly understands the origin, the disappearance, the gratification, the drawback, and the escape when it comes to form, feeling, perception, choices, and consciousness. This is called knowledge. And this is how a knowing one is defined.”

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Self-check quiz

Ten questions. Click an answer to see immediate feedback. No score is recorded — this is for your own checking.

Question 1 of 10
Who questions whom in this discourse, continuing SN 22.133's pattern?
Correct: A. Confirming this reversal is a settled pattern, not an isolated instance.
Question 2 of 10
What formula does this discourse use?
Correct: A. The same formula already used at SN 22.131-132, this vagga's fullest criterion.
Question 3 of 10
How does this discourse present ignorance and knowledge?
Correct: A. Continuing SN 22.133's combined presentation rather than SN 22.131-132's split format.
Question 4 of 10
What pattern does reading across this vagga's nine discourses reveal?
Correct: A. A systematic pairing of criterion with format across the vagga's full structure.
Question 5 of 10
What criterion does the vagga's final discourse, SN 22.135, return to?
Correct: A. Completing the vagga's systematic tour through the book's technical vocabulary for ignorance and knowledge.
Question 6 of 10
How many aggregates does this five-point formula apply to?
Correct: A. Form, feeling, perception, choices, and consciousness.
Question 7 of 10
Where is this discourse set?
Correct: A. Continuing the setting of the surrounding discourses in this vagga.
Question 8 of 10
What does the consistent pairing of split and combined formats across criteria suggest about this vagga's design?
Correct: A. Each criterion consistently receives both treatments across the vagga's ten discourses.
Question 9 of 10
What is knowledge defined as in this discourse?
Correct: A. The precise inversion of this discourse's own ignorance definition, given within the same text.
Question 10 of 10
How many discourses remain in Avijjāvagga after this one?
Correct: A. SN 22.135 closes the vagga with its final criterion.
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