Saṃyutta Nikāya · Discourse 23.20

Liable to Fall

Vayadhammasutta — Dutiyamāravagga

Setting
Sāvatthī
Speakers
Venerable Rādha questioning the Buddha
Form
The identical bare question-and-answer structure as SN 23.19
Length
Very short — the closing formula elided
Northern parallel
Vayadhamma, "liable to fall" or "liable to pass away," is closely related to khayadhamma
Difficulty
Approachable — best read directly after SN 23.19

Why this discourse

Continues this vagga's closing set of four process-terms: having examined liability to end, this discourse asks about liability to fall — vaya, a term closely related to khaya but distinct enough to warrant its own separate treatment.

Reading guide

A closely related but distinct process term

"They speak of a 'liability to fall'. What has a liability to fall?" — vaya, often paired with uppāda ("origination") in the standard uppāda-vaya formula describing the rise and fall of phenomena, here given its own dedicated discourse.

The identical bare answer

"Form, feeling, perception, choices, and consciousness have a liability to fall" — matching SN 23.19's own directness exactly.

Why khaya and vaya both receive separate treatment

Though closely related in meaning, treating "liable to end" and "liable to fall" as two distinct discourses rather than folding them into one suggests this vagga's compilers valued exhaustive coverage of related vocabulary over economy — every near-synonym for impermanence's own process gets its own dedicated statement.

Two terms remaining

SN 23.21 and SN 23.22 will complete this closing set with "liable to originate" and "liable to cease" — the positive and negative poles of the same rise-and-fall process this discourse and SN 23.19 have already begun describing.

Key terms

vaya — falling, passing away — the term this discourse examines, closely related to khaya
khaya — ending — SN 23.19's own term, the closely related predecessor to this discourse's subject
uppāda — origination — often paired with vaya in the standard uppāda-vaya formula for rise and fall
samudaya/nirodha — origination / cessation — the two further terms SN 23.21-22 will examine, closing this vagga
peyyāla — an elision mark, compressing the standard closing formula throughout this vagga

The text

The complete discourse as given in the source, continuing this vagga's closing set of process-terms. Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato (CC0, SuttaCentral).

§1At Sāvatthī. Seated to one side, Venerable Rādha said to the Buddha: “Sir, they speak of a ‘liability to fall’. What has a liability to fall?”

§2“Rādha, form, feeling, perception, choices, and consciousness have a liability to fall.

§3Seeing this … They understand: ‘… there is nothing further for this place.’”

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Self-check quiz

Ten questions. Click an answer to see immediate feedback. No score is recorded — this is for your own checking.

Question 1 of 10
What does this discourse ask about, continuing from SN 23.19's own liability to end?
Correct: A. A closely related but distinct process-term.
Question 2 of 10
How does the Buddha answer?
Correct: A. Matching SN 23.19's own directness exactly.
Question 3 of 10
What standard formula is vaya often paired with elsewhere?
Correct: A. The classic rise-and-fall pairing widely used across the Canon.
Question 4 of 10
Why might khaya and vaya both receive separate dedicated discourses despite their close relationship?
Correct: A. Every near-synonym for impermanence's own process gets its own dedicated statement.
Question 5 of 10
What two terms will close this vagga's final set, SN 23.21-22?
Correct: A. The positive and negative poles of the same rise-and-fall process.
Question 6 of 10
How many aggregates does this discourse's identification apply to?
Correct: A. Form, feeling, perception, choices, and consciousness.
Question 7 of 10
How is the closing formula presented in this discourse?
Correct: A. Compressed throughout this vagga after SN 23.11's own full statement.
Question 8 of 10
What is this discourse's relationship to SN 23.19?
Correct: A. Vaya and khaya, treated as distinct enough to warrant separate treatment.
Question 9 of 10
Where is this discourse set?
Correct: A. Matching SN 23.11-19's own setting.
Question 10 of 10
Who asks the question in this discourse?
Correct: A. Continuing this saṃyutta's own central questioner.
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