The identical bare question-and-answer structure as SN 23.19-20
Length
Very short — the closing formula elided
Northern parallel
Samudayadhamma recalls the originate/vanish criterion given fuller treatment at SN 22.126 much earlier in this book
Difficulty
Approachable — best read alongside SN 22.126 for the fuller version of this same vocabulary
Why this discourse
Moves to the positive pole of this vagga's closing pair: what has a liability to originate? — the same samudaya vocabulary already given a fuller three-part treatment at SN 22.126 much earlier in this book, now compressed to this vagga's own bare economy.
Reading guide
A term recalling earlier, fuller treatment
"They speak of a 'liability to originate'. What has a liability to originate?" — samudayadhamma directly recalls SN 22.126's own opening criterion, which distinguished "liable to originate," "liable to vanish," and "liable to originate and vanish" as three separate failures of understanding.
The identical bare answer
"Form, feeling, perception, choices, and consciousness have a liability to originate" — matching this vagga's own established directness, though the underlying vocabulary carries the weight of SN 22.126's own earlier, more developed discussion.
Compression that assumes prior context
Where SN 22.126 spelled out this criterion's full significance across a lengthy discourse defining ignorance and knowledge, this discourse simply states the bare fact — trusting a reader already familiar with this book's earlier material to supply the fuller meaning this brief statement only gestures toward.
One term remaining, closing the vagga
SN 23.22 will complete this final pair with "liable to cease," closing both this specific pair and Dutiyamāravagga as a whole.
Key terms
samudaya — origin, arising — the term this discourse examines, recalling SN 22.126's own criterion
samudayadhamma — liable to originate — the full technical term, echoing SN 22.126's uppādadhamma
vaya — falling, passing away — SN 23.20's own term, the previous discourse in this closing set
nirodha — cessation — the term SN 23.22 will examine next, closing this vagga
peyyāla — an elision mark, compressing the standard closing formula throughout this vagga
The text
The complete discourse as given in the source, recalling SN 22.126's own originate/vanish criterion in compressed form. Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato (CC0, SuttaCentral).
§1At Sāvatthī. Seated to one side, Venerable Rādha said to the Buddha: “Sir, they speak of a ‘liability to originate’. What has a liability to originate?”
§2“Rādha, form, feeling, perception, choices, and consciousness have a liability to originate.
§3Seeing this … They understand: ‘… there is nothing further for this place.’”
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Self-check quiz
Ten questions. Click an answer to see immediate feedback. No score is recorded — this is for your own checking.
Question 1 of 10
What does this discourse ask about?
Correct: A. The positive pole of this vagga's closing rise-and-fall pair.
Question 2 of 10
What earlier discourse in this book gave this same vocabulary fuller treatment?
Correct: A. Distinguishing liable to originate, vanish, and both, across three separate discourses there.
Question 3 of 10
How does the Buddha answer this discourse's question?
Correct: A. This vagga's own established bare directness.
Question 4 of 10
What does this discourse's compression assume about its reader?
Correct: A. Trusting the reader to supply the fuller meaning from earlier in the book.
Question 5 of 10
What discourse closes this pair and the vagga itself?
Correct: A. Completing both this specific pair and Dutiyamāravagga as a whole.
Question 6 of 10
How many aggregates does this discourse's identification apply to?
Correct: A. Form, feeling, perception, choices, and consciousness.
Question 7 of 10
How is the closing formula presented in this discourse?
Correct: A. Compressed throughout this vagga after SN 23.11's own full statement.
Question 8 of 10
What relationship does samudayadhamma bear to SN 22.126's own uppādadhamma?
Correct: A. Both name the same basic liability to arise or originate.
Question 9 of 10
Where is this discourse set?
Correct: A. Matching SN 23.11-20's own setting.
Question 10 of 10
Who asks the question in this discourse?
Correct: A. Continuing this saṃyutta's own central questioner.
