Saṃyutta Nikāya · Discourse 35.133

Verahaccānī

Verahaccānisutta — Gahapativagga

Setting
Kāmaṇḍā, in the brahmin Todeyya's mango grove
Speakers
Venerable Udāyī, an unnamed brahmin pupil, and the brahmin lady of the Verahaccāni clan
Form
A frame narrative built on a repeated etiquette failure, resolving into a single terse philosophical exchange, then this vagga's own closing colophon and uddāna
Length
~3 minutes to read
Northern parallel
A rough counterpart may exist in the Chinese Saṃyukta-āgama (T99), though this reading guide does not assert a specific matching sutra number
Difficulty
★★☆☆☆ — a warm domestic narrative, closing on a genuinely difficult question

Why this discourse

Gahapativagga closes on a narrative about manners, not metaphysics, until its very last exchange. A young brahmin pupil, moved by Venerable Udāyī's teaching, twice arranges a meal invitation from his own teacher's wife, the brahmin lady of the Verahaccāni clan — and twice she demands “preach the Dhamma” while wearing slippers, seated on a high seat, her head covered, and twice Udāyī simply leaves without teaching. Only when her pupil explains why — good people show respect for the teaching itself before receiving it — does she correct her posture, and only then does Udāyī answer a real question: on what does the very possibility of declaring pleasure and pain depend? This discourse's own closing colophon, “Gahapativaggo tatiyo,” confirms what the previous two vaggas' own colophons already suggested — that Yogakkhemivagga, Lokakāmaguṇavagga, and this vagga together form Saḷāyatanasaṃyutta's third paṇṇāsaka.

Reading guide

A lesson repeated until it lands

The narrative's structure is patient rather than didactic: the same failure (disrespectful posture, Udāyī's silent refusal to teach) happens twice before anyone explains why, and only the pupil's own plain words — “good fellows respect the teaching” — finally break the pattern.

Posture as the entire argument

The text sets the failed and successful invitations against each other almost word for word: slippers on, a high seat, head covered, versus slippers off, a low seat, head uncovered. No further moral is drawn — the contrast in bodily posture is left to carry the entire point about respect for the teaching.

A terse question, answered by the six sense bases

Once she finally asks properly, the brahmin lady's own question is genuinely abstract: on what does it depend that perfected ones (arahants) declare pleasure and pain to exist at all? Udāyī's answer returns this vagga, and this book, to its foundational ground — when the eye exists, and likewise the ear, nose, tongue, body, and mind, pleasure and pain can be declared; when it doesn't, they cannot.

The vagga's own close, confirming a paṇṇāsaka

This discourse's own untranslated closing colophon, “Gahapativaggo tatiyo” (Gahapativagga, the third), together with its own uddāna naming all ten discourses by title, confirms — not merely suggests, as at SN 35.113 — that Yogakkhemivagga (“paṭhamo”), Lokakāmaguṇavagga (“dutiyo”), and Gahapativagga (“tatiyo”) together make up Saḷāyatanasaṃyutta's own third paṇṇāsaka, thirty discourses across three vaggas, though still without any single explicit paṇṇāsaka-level label of its own, exactly as this project inferred two vaggas ago.

Key terms

pādukā ārohitvā ucce āsane nisīditvā sīsaṃ oguṇṭhitvā — slippers on, seated on a high seat, head covered — the brahmin lady's disrespectful posture, set word for word against its later mirror
dhammagaruno hi te bhavanto dhammagāravā — “good fellows respect the teaching” — the pupil's own plain explanation, the narrative's moral, stated once and left to do its work
kismiṃ sati...kismiṃ asati — when what exists...when what doesn't exist — the brahmin lady's own question form, distinct from every other question asked elsewhere in this vagga
sukhadukkhaṃ paññapenti — declare, designate pleasure and pain to exist — the verb paññapeti (to make known, prescribe) rather than the plainer vuttaṃ (spoken) used for most of this vagga's other teachings
gahapativaggo tatiyo — Gahapativagga, the third — this vagga's own closing colophon, confirming, alongside Yogakkhemivagga's own “paṭhamo” and Lokakāmaguṇavagga's own “dutiyo,” that these three vaggas together form Saḷāyatanasaṃyutta's third paṇṇāsaka

The text

The complete discourse, apart from its own closing colophon and uddāna (both left untranslated in the Pali root and described, not quoted, above): the pupil's report, two failed invitations, the pupil's own explanation, the successful third invitation, and the exchange on the six sense bases. Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato (CC0, SuttaCentral).

§1At one time Venerable Udāyī was staying near Kāmaṇḍā in the brahmin Todeyya’s mango grove. Then a boy who was a pupil of the brahmin lady of the Verahaccāni clan went up to Udāyī and exchanged greetings with him. When the greetings and polite conversation were over, he sat down to one side. Udāyī educated, encouraged, fired up, and inspired that young student with a Dhamma talk. Then that young student went to the brahmin lady of the Verahaccāni clan and said to her, “Please, madam, you should know this. The ascetic Udāyī proclaims a teaching that is good in the beginning, good in the middle, and good in the end, meaningful and well-phrased. And he reveals a spiritual practice that’s entirely full and pure.”

§2“Then, young student, invite him in my name for tomorrow’s meal.” “Yes, madam,” he replied. He went to Udāyī and said, “Sir, would Mister Udāyī please accept an offering of tomorrow’s meal from my tutor’s wife, the brahmin lady of the Verahaccāni clan?” Udāyī consented with silence. Then when the night had passed, Udāyī robed up in the morning and, taking his bowl and robe, went to the brahmin lady’s home, and sat down on the seat spread out. Then the brahmin lady served and satisfied Udāyī with her own hands with delicious fresh and cooked foods. When Udāyī had eaten and washed his hand and bowl, she put on a pair of slippers, sat on a high seat, covered her head, and said to him, “Ascetic, preach the Dhamma.” “There will be an occasion for that, sister,” he replied, then got up from his seat and left.

§3For a second time that young student went to Venerable Udāyī … And for a second time that young student went to the brahmin lady of the Verahaccāni clan … She said to him, “You keep praising the ascetic Udāyī like this. But when I asked him to preach the Dhamma he just said that there would be an occasion for that, and then he got up and left.” “Madam, that’s because you put on a pair of slippers, sat on a high seat, and covered your head before inviting him to teach. For the good fellows respect the teaching.” “Then, young student, invite him in my name for tomorrow’s meal.” “Yes, madam,” he replied. …

§4Then the brahmin lady served and satisfied Udāyī with her own hands with delicious fresh and cooked foods. When Udāyī had eaten and washed his hand and bowl, she took off her slippers, sat on a low seat, uncovered her head, and said to him, “Sir, when what exists do the perfected ones declare that there is pleasure and pain? When what doesn’t exist do the perfected ones not declare that there is pleasure and pain?” “Sister, when there’s an eye, the perfected ones declare that there is pleasure and pain. When there’s no eye, the perfected ones don’t declare that there is pleasure and pain. When there’s an ear … nose … tongue … body … mind, the perfected ones declare that there is pleasure and pain. When there’s no mind, the perfected ones don’t declare that there is pleasure and pain.”

§5When he said this, the brahmin lady said to Udāyī, “Excellent, sir! Excellent! As if he were righting the overturned, or revealing the hidden, or pointing out the path to the lost, or lighting a lamp in the dark so people with clear eyes can see what’s there, Master Udāyī has made the teaching clear in many ways. I go for refuge to the Buddha, to the teaching, and to the mendicant Saṅgha. From this day forth, may Master Udāyī remember me as a lay follower who has gone for refuge for life.”

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Question 1 of 5
What happens the first two times the brahmin lady of the Verahaccāni clan invites Venerable Udāyī and asks him to preach?
Correct: A. The repeated failure the narrative is built on, corrected only the third time.
Question 2 of 5
Who explains to the brahmin lady why Udāyī left without teaching?
Correct: A. "Good fellows respect the teaching" — the pupil's own plain words.
Question 3 of 5
What question does the brahmin lady finally ask, once she corrects her posture?
Correct: A. A genuinely abstract question, distinct from the vagga's other, more concrete questions.
Question 4 of 5
What does Udāyī name as the condition for declaring pleasure and pain to exist?
Correct: A. Returning this vagga, and this book, to its foundational ground.
Question 5 of 5
What does this discourse's own closing colophon, "Gahapativaggo tatiyo," confirm?
Correct: A. Confirming, not merely suggesting as at SN 35.113, the third-paṇṇāsaka reading.
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