Saṃyutta Nikāya · Discourse 35.80

Giving Up Ignorance (2nd)

Dutiyaavijjāpahānasutta — Gilānavagga

Setting
Not restated in this discourse
Speakers
An unnamed mendicant questioning; the Buddha answering
Form
SN 35.79’s own opening question repeated, answered this time through a different device: hearing a specific teaching and coming to see all things as “other”
Length
~1 minute to read
Northern parallel
A rough counterpart may exist in the Chinese Saṃyukta-āgama (T99), though this reading guide does not assert a specific matching sutra number
Difficulty
★★★☆☆ — the “seeing as other” device is distinctive and rewards careful attention

Why this discourse

This discourse asks SN 35.79’s own opening question again — is there one thing whose giving up gives up ignorance and gives rise to knowledge? — and answers it identically at first (ignorance itself), but the explanation that follows takes an entirely different route. Rather than knowing and seeing the six sense fields directly as impermanent, this discourse describes a mendicant who has heard the teaching “nothing is worth insisting on” (sabbe dhammā nālaṁ abhinivesāya). Having heard this, he directly knows all things, completely understands all things, and so comes to see all signs — the eye, sights, eye consciousness, eye contact, and so on through the mind — as “other” (aññato) rather than naming them impermanent, suffering, or not-self outright. This exact formula, “nothing is worth insisting on,” is traditionally associated with the Cūḷataṇhāsaṅkhayasutta (MN 37), where the Buddha teaches it to Sakka while Venerable Mahāmoggallāna listens and Venerable Sāriputta, overhearing it from outside, is said to attain full liberation on the spot — though this reading guide notes that association without claiming this SN discourse itself narrates that famous scene.

Reading guide

The same question, a different door

SN 35.79’s own opening question recurs unchanged, and the immediate answer is identical — ignorance itself — but the explanation that follows takes a route this book has not used before.

Nothing is worth insisting on

A mendicant who has heard the teaching “nothing is worth insisting on” (sabbe dhammā nālaṁ abhinivesāya) directly knows and completely understands all things — a formula this reading guide notes is traditionally associated with MN 37, the Cūḷataṇhāsaṅkhayasutta, without asserting this discourse itself retells that scene.

Seeing all things as other, not naming them impermanent

Rather than the direct catechism of SN 35.79 (know and see as impermanent), this discourse describes seeing all signs — the eye, sights, eye consciousness, eye contact, and so through the mind — as “other” (aññato), a distinct verb of insight this book has not used elsewhere.

Key terms

sabbe dhammā nālaṁ abhinivesāya — nothing is worth insisting on — the teaching this discourse says a mendicant has heard, traditionally associated with MN 37
abhijānāti — directly knows — the first step once the teaching has been heard
parijānāti — completely understands — the second step, following direct knowledge
aññato passati — sees as other — the distinct verb of insight this discourse uses in place of naming things impermanent outright
nimitta — sign, mark — what a mendicant, having heard the teaching, comes to see as other

The text

The complete discourse: the same opening question as SN 35.79, answered through hearing that nothing is worth insisting on and seeing all signs as other. Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato (CC0, SuttaCentral).

§1Then a mendicant went up to the Buddha … and asked him, “Sir, is there one thing such that by giving it up a mendicant gives up ignorance and gives rise to knowledge?”

§2“There is, mendicant.” “But what is that one thing?” “Ignorance is one thing such that by giving it up a mendicant gives up ignorance and gives rise to knowledge.” “But how does a mendicant know and see so as to give up ignorance and give rise to knowledge?”

§3“Take a mendicant who has heard: ‘Nothing is worth insisting on.’ When a mendicant has heard that nothing is worth insisting on, they directly know all things. Directly knowing all things, they completely understand all things. Completely understanding all things, they see all signs as other. They see the eye, sights,

§4eye consciousness, and eye contact as other. And they also see the pleasant, painful, or neutral feeling that arises dependent on eye contact as other. … They see the mind, ideas, mind consciousness, and mind contact as other. And they also see the pleasant, painful, or neutral feeling that arises dependent on mind contact as other. That’s how a mendicant knows and sees so as to give up ignorance and give rise to knowledge.”

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Self-check quiz

5 questions. Click an answer to see immediate feedback. No score is recorded — this is for your own checking.

Question 1 of 5
What question opens this discourse, matching SN 35.79?
Correct: A. The identical opening question as SN 35.79, answered through a different device.
Question 2 of 5
What teaching does this discourse say a mendicant must hear first?
Correct: A. This specific formula, traditionally associated with MN 37.
Question 3 of 5
What verb of insight does this discourse use, distinct from SN 35.79’s?
Correct: A. A distinct device from SN 35.79’s direct catechism of impermanence.
Question 4 of 5
With which discourse elsewhere in the canon does this reading guide note a traditional association for “nothing is worth insisting on”?
Correct: A. Noted as a traditional association, not claimed as this discourse’s own retelling of that scene.
Question 5 of 5
How does this discourse’s own answer to the opening question compare with SN 35.79’s?
Correct: A. Same immediate answer, a different explanatory route.
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