Saṃyutta Nikāya · Discourse 38.3

Principled Speech

Dhammavādīpañhāsutta — Jambukhādakavagga

Setting
Not restated; continues directly as dialogue from SN 38.1's own setting
Speakers
The wanderer Jambukhādaka questioning Venerable Sāriputta
Form
A triple question answered with three parallel definitions, then the same eightfold-path catechism
Length
~1 minute to read
Northern parallel
A rough counterpart may exist in the Chinese Saṃyukta-āgama (T99), though this reading guide does not assert a specific matching sutra number
Difficulty
★★☆☆☆ — three related titles distinguished by a single underlying progression

Why this discourse

This discourse asks three questions at once — who in the world has principled speech, who practices well, who are the Holy Ones — and answers all three from the same three roots (greed, hate, delusion), distinguished only by relation to them: teaching how to give them up makes one a principled speaker; practicing to give them up makes one a good practitioner; having already given them up — cut off at the root, unable to arise again — makes one a Holy One. Three titles, one progression, from teaching to practicing to attaining. Sujato's own English still spells out the eightfold path in full here, the last discourse to do so before its own elision begins at SN 38.4.

Reading guide

Three titles, one progression

Principled speaker (teaches the giving-up), good practitioner (practices the giving-up), Holy One (has already given up) — three distinct titles mapped onto three stages of the identical process applied to the same three roots.

A vivid image for what's already gone

The Holy One's greed, hate, and delusion are described as “cut off at the root, made like a palm stump, obliterated, and unable to arise in the future” — a stronger image than the bare “ending” used for nibbāna and arahatta at SN 38.1–2.

The last discourse to spell out the path in full

Sujato's own English elision of the eightfold-path recitation begins at the next discourse, SN 38.4; this is the final discourse in this saṃyutta where the full text appears in English even though root Pali has already been eliding it since SN 38.2.

Key terms

dhammavādino — “principled speakers” — those who teach for the giving up of greed, hate, and delusion
suppaṭipannā — “those who practice well” — those who practice for the giving up of the same three roots
sugatā — “Holy Ones” — those who have already given up the three roots, described as “cut off at the root, made like a palm stump, obliterated”
āvuso — “reverend, friend” — the reciprocal address term Jambukhādaka and Sāriputta use throughout this saṃyutta
tatiyaṁ — “third” — this discourse's own untranslated closing ordinal

The text

The complete discourse. Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato (CC0, SuttaCentral).

§1“Reverend Sāriputta, who in the world have principled speech? Who in the world practice well? Who are the Holy Ones in the world?” “Reverend, those who teach principles for giving up greed, hate, and delusion have principled speech in the world. Those who practice for giving up greed, hate, and delusion are practicing well in the world. Those who have given up greed, hate, and delusion—so they’re cut off at the root, made like a palm stump, obliterated, and unable to arise in the future—are Holy Ones in the world.”

§2“But, reverend, is there a path and a practice for giving up that greed, hate, and delusion?” “There is, reverend.” “Well, what is it?” “It is simply this noble eightfold path, that is: right view, right purpose, right speech, right action, right livelihood, right effort, right mindfulness, and right immersion. This is the path, this is the practice for giving up that greed, hate, and delusion.” “This is a fine path, a fine practice, for giving up greed, hate, and delusion. Just this much is enough for diligence.”

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Self-check quiz

3 questions. Click an answer to see immediate feedback. No score is recorded — this is for your own checking.

Question 1 of 3
What three titles does this discourse define?
Correct: A. Three titles mapped onto three stages of relation to the same three roots — greed, hate, and delusion.
Question 2 of 3
How is a "Holy One" (sugata) distinguished from a "principled speaker" or "one who practices well"?
Correct: A. Teaching, practicing, and having attained — three stages of one progression.
Question 3 of 3
What image does this discourse use for the Holy One's already-abandoned defilements?
Correct: A. A stronger, more vivid image than the bare "ending" language used at SN 38.1-2.
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