Saṃyutta Nikāya · Discourse 4.12

Lion

Sīhasutta

Setting
At Sāvatthī, in Jeta’s Grove, before a large assembly
Speakers
The Buddha, teaching an assembly, and Māra the Wicked
Form
Māra's private thought revealed, then a challenging verse met by a confident reply
Length
~1.5 minutes to read
Northern parallel
A rough counterpart may exist in the Chinese Saṃyukta-āgama (T99), though this reading guide does not assert a specific matching sutra number
Difficulty
★★★☆☆ — the first discourse in this vagga to show readers Māra's reasoning before he acts

Why this discourse

This discourse introduces a narrative device this vagga will use repeatedly: readers are shown Māra's private thought before he acts, watching him calculate ‘why don't I go and pull the wool over their eyes’ while the Buddha teaches an assembled crowd. His challenge questions the Buddha's self-assurance directly — why roar so confidently, when someone could still defeat you? — met by a reply that reframes the roar itself as simply what great heroes do, unafraid, having already crossed over worldly attachment.

Reading guide

The reader let in on Māra's calculation

Unlike this vagga's opening discourse, where Māra's motive is never stated, this one opens a window directly into his reasoning: he sees a large, attentive assembly and decides deception is worth attempting precisely because the audience is substantial — a strategic calculation, not blind aggression.

An attack on confidence itself, not conduct or doctrine

Māra's challenge does not accuse the Buddha of impurity or claim he remains bound; it targets something more social — his self-assurance before a crowd — framing confidence itself as presumptuous, vulnerable to an unnamed challenger who might yet defeat him.

The lion's roar as a shared image, not private boast

The Buddha's reply does not deny roaring confidently; it reclaims the image entirely, describing it as what ‘great heroes’ do in general, plural, collectivizing what Māra tried to frame as isolated, vulnerable self-assertion.

Attained to power, crossed over clinging

The verse's closing description — ‘attained to power’, having ‘crossed over clinging to the world’ — locates the Buddha's confidence not in personal bravado but in a specific, describable accomplishment, answering Māra's challenge about self-assurance with a claim about actual attainment.

A public confrontation compressed as tightly as a private one

Despite the large assembly present as an audience, the exchange itself remains as compact as this vagga's more private confrontations — the crowd's presence matters to Māra's motive but does not expand the verses themselves beyond this vagga's characteristic brevity.

Key terms

sīhanāda — “lion's roar” — the confident teaching voice Māra challenges, giving this discourse its title.
vippalambheyyaṁ — “pull the wool over their eyes” — Māra's own stated plan, part of this vagga's recurring formula for revealing his private calculation.
visārada — “self-assured” — the quality Māra's challenge specifically targets.
mahāvīra — “great heroes” — the Buddha's collectivizing term, reframing his own confidence as shared rather than isolated.
vusitavā — “attained to power” — part of the verse's closing description of the Realized One's actual accomplishment.

The text

The discourse in full: Māra's revealed calculation, his challenge, and the Buddha's confident reply. Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato (CC0, SuttaCentral).

§1At one time the Buddha was staying near Sāvatthī in Jeta’s Grove, Anāthapiṇḍika’s monastery. Now, at that time the Buddha was teaching Dhamma, surrounded by a large assembly.

§2Then Māra thought, “The ascetic Gotama is teaching Dhamma, surrounded by a large assembly. Why don’t I go and pull the wool over their eyes?” Then Māra the Wicked went up to the Buddha and addressed him in verse:

§3“Why now do you roar like a lion? You’re so self-assured in the assembly! For there is someone who’ll wrestle with you, so why do you imagine you’re the victor?”

§4“The great heroes they roar, self-assured in the assemblies. The Realized One, attained to power, has crossed over clinging to the world.”

§5Then Māra the Wicked, thinking, “The Buddha knows me! The Holy One knows me!” miserable and sad, vanished right there.

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Self-check quiz

Ten questions. Click an answer to see immediate feedback. No score is recorded — this is for your own checking.

Question 1 of 10
What narrative device does this discourse introduce, used repeatedly across this vagga?
Correct: A. Watching Māra calculate his strategy rather than acting without explanation.
Question 2 of 10
What does Māra's revealed thought show about his motive?
Correct: A. Motivated specifically by the size and attentiveness of the assembly.
Question 3 of 10
What does Māra's challenge target?
Correct: A. Framing confidence itself as presumptuous and vulnerable.
Question 4 of 10
How does the Buddha's reply reframe the lion's roar?
Correct: A. Collectivizing what Māra tried to frame as vulnerable self-assertion.
Question 5 of 10
What does the verse's closing description locate the Buddha's confidence in?
Correct: A. Answering Māra's challenge about self-assurance with a claim about actual accomplishment.
Question 6 of 10
How does the crowd's presence affect the verses themselves?
Correct: A. The exchange remains as compact as this vagga's more private confrontations.
Question 7 of 10
Where is this discourse set?
Correct: A. A public teaching setting, distinct from SN 4.11's solitary mountain confrontation.
Question 8 of 10
What is Māra's stated plan in his private thought?
Correct: A. A recurring formula this vagga uses for Māra's revealed calculation.
Question 9 of 10
How does Māra react at the end of this discourse?
Correct: A. The stock reaction established across this saṃyutta's discourses.
Question 10 of 10
What claim does Māra's challenge specifically make about a potential opponent?
Correct: A. The specific content of Māra's challenge to the Buddha's self-assurance.
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