Saṃyutta Nikāya · Discourse 40.8

A Question About the Dimension of Neither Perception Nor Non-Perception

Nevasaññānāsaññāyatanapañhāsutta — Moggallānavagga

Setting
Not restated; continues directly as Moggallāna's own account from SN 40.1's own setting
Speakers
Venerable Mahāmoggallāna addressing the mendicants
Form
The identical template, applied to the fourth and final formless dimension
Length
<1 minute to read
Northern parallel
A rough counterpart may exist in the Chinese Saṃyukta-āgama (T99), though this reading guide does not assert a specific matching sutra number
Difficulty
★★☆☆☆ — the subtlest attainment in the numbered sequence, with no positive description of its own

Why this discourse

The dimension of neither perception nor non-perception — the subtlest of the eight numbered attainments, defined only by going entirely beyond the dimension of nothingness with no further positive description given — is disturbed by leftover perceptions of nothingness itself. This closes the four-formless-dimension sequence (SN 40.5–8) exactly as the four absorptions closed at SN 40.4: each of the eight numbered attainments haunted by precisely what it has just gone beyond.

Reading guide

The subtlest attainment, defined by absence alone

Unlike every other attainment in this sequence, this dimension's own definition offers no positive description at all — only that it goes entirely beyond the dimension of nothingness — matching its own reputation as the most refined of the eight numbered attainments.

Eight attainments, one pattern, now complete

With this discourse, the residue pattern has held across all eight numbered attainments (four absorptions, four formless dimensions) without exception — SN 40.9 will apply a related but distinct pattern to a ninth attainment that stands outside this numbered sequence entirely.

Key terms

nevasaññānāsaññāyatanaṁ — “the dimension of neither perception nor non-perception” — the subtlest of the eight numbered attainments, defined only by going beyond the dimension of nothingness
ākiñcaññāyatanasahagatā saññāmanasikārā — “perception and focus accompanied by the dimension of nothingness” — the residue disturbing Moggallāna, closing the four-formless-dimension sequence
mā... pamādo — “don't neglect” — the opening of the Buddha's own fixed exhortation, unchanged since SN 40.1
satthārānuggahito sāvako mahābhiññataṁ patto — “a disciple who attained to great direct knowledge with help from the Teacher” — Moggallāna's own closing self-description, unchanged since SN 40.1
aṭṭhamaṁ — “eighth” — this discourse's own untranslated closing ordinal, marking the close of the eight numbered attainments

The text

The complete discourse. Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato (CC0, SuttaCentral).

§1“They speak of this thing called the ‘dimension of neither perception nor non-perception’. What is the dimension of neither perception nor non-perception? It occurred to me: ‘It’s when a mendicant, going totally beyond the dimension of nothingness, enters and remains in the dimension of neither perception nor non-perception. This is called the dimension of neither perception nor non-perception.’ And so … I was entering and remaining in the dimension of neither perception nor non-perception. While I was in that meditation, perception and focus accompanied by the dimension of nothingness beset me.

§2Then the Buddha came up to me with his psychic power and said, ‘Moggallāna, Moggallāna! Don’t neglect the dimension of neither perception nor non-perception, brahmin! Settle your mind in the dimension of neither perception nor non-perception; unify your mind and immerse it in the dimension of neither perception nor non-perception.’ And so, after some time … I entered and remained in the dimension of neither perception nor non-perception. So if anyone should be rightly called a disciple who attained to great direct knowledge with help from the Teacher, it’s me.”

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Self-check quiz

2 questions. Click an answer to see immediate feedback. No score is recorded — this is for your own checking.

Question 1 of 2
How does this dimension's own definition differ from every other attainment in this sequence?
Correct: A. The subtlest of the eight numbered attainments, matching its reputation with an absence of positive description.
Question 2 of 2
What does this discourse complete within the larger nine-discourse sequence?
Correct: A. SN 40.9 addresses an attainment outside this numbered eight-attainment sequence.
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