Saṃyutta Nikāya · Discourse 48.44

At the Eastern Gate

Pubbakoṭṭhakasutta — Jarāvagga

Setting
Sāvatthī, at the eastern gate
Speakers
The Buddha, questioning Venerable Sāriputta; Sāriputta, answering with his own direct realization rather than faith
Form
A pointed question and a remarkable, considered answer, confirmed by the Buddha
Length
<1 minute to read
Northern parallel
No individual parallel confirmed by this project's own check
Significance
★★★★★ — Sāriputta explicitly declines to rely on faith even in the Buddha's own presence, and this discourse's own closing formula directly echoes the nibbāna formula already met at SN 48.42

Why this discourse

This discourse records a remarkable moment: when the Buddha asks Sāriputta whether he has FAITH that developing the five spiritual faculties leads to the deathless, Sāriputta explicitly declines that framing — he does not rely on faith in the Buddha's own claim, but on his own direct knowledge, seeing, understanding, realization, and experience of it with wisdom, leaving him without doubt or uncertainty.

Reading guide

Declining faith, asserting direct knowledge

Confirmed by direct reading, Sāriputta's own answer draws a sharp distinction: those who have not personally known, seen, understood, realized, and experienced this truth with wisdom “may rely on faith in this matter”; but Sāriputta himself has directly verified it and therefore has “no doubts or uncertainties” — he explicitly does not answer “yes, I have faith,” even when asked by the Buddha himself.

The Buddha's own approval of this distinction

Confirmed by direct reading, the Buddha responds “Good, good, Sāriputta!” and repeats Sāriputta's own distinction back almost verbatim — confirming that faith remains valid for those who have not yet directly realized the truth, while direct knowledge supersedes the need for faith once that realization has occurred.

A direct echo of SN 48.42's own nibbāna formula

Confirmed by direct comparison, this discourse's own closing formula — “amatogadhaṁ amataparāyaṇaṁ amatapariyosānaṁ” (“grounded in the deathless, the deathless as destination, the deathless as culmination”) — shares the identical grammatical shape with SN 48.42's own “nibbānogadhaṁ … nibbānaparāyaṇaṁ nibbānapariyosānaṁ” formula, using “amata” (the deathless) in place of “nibbāna” (extinguishment) for what this project's own reading takes to be the same final goal, named two ways.

Key terms

saddahasi — “do you have faith” — the Buddha's own opening question, which Sāriputta's own answer explicitly redirects
na khvāhaṁ … saddhāya gacchāmi — “I don't rely on faith” — Sāriputta's own remarkable declaration, even in the Buddha's own presence
ñātaṁ diṭṭhaṁ viditaṁ sacchikataṁ phassitaṁ paññāya — the fivefold formula for direct verification: “known, seen, understood, realized, and experienced with wisdom”
amatogadhaṁ amataparāyaṇaṁ amatapariyosānaṁ — “grounded in the deathless, the deathless as destination, the deathless as culmination” — directly echoing SN 48.42's own nibbāna formula
Catutthaṁ — “the fourth” — the closing colophon marker, confirming this as the vagga's fourth discourse

The text

The complete discourse. Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato (CC0, SuttaCentral).

§1 — the Buddha's own questionSo I have heard. At one time the Buddha was staying in Sāvatthī at the eastern gate. Then the Buddha said to Venerable Sāriputta: “Sāriputta, do you have faith that the faculties of faith, energy, mindfulness, immersion, and wisdom, when developed and cultivated, have freedom from death as their objective, destination, and culmination?”

§2 — Sāriputta's own answer“Sir, in this case I don’t rely on faith in the Buddha’s claim that the faculties of faith, energy, mindfulness, immersion, and wisdom, when developed and cultivated, have freedom from death as their objective, destination, and culmination. There are those who have not known or seen or understood or realized or experienced this with wisdom. They may rely on faith in this matter. But there are those who have known, seen, understood, realized, and experienced this with wisdom. They have no doubts or uncertainties in this matter. I have known, seen, understood, realized, and experienced this with wisdom. I have no doubts or uncertainties that the faculties of faith, energy, mindfulness, immersion, and wisdom, when developed and cultivated, have freedom from death as their objective, destination, and culmination.”

§3 — the Buddha's own approval“Good, good, Sāriputta! There are those who have not known or seen or understood or realized or experienced this with wisdom. They may rely on faith in this matter. But there are those who have known, seen, understood, realized, and experienced this with wisdom. They have no doubts or uncertainties that the faculties of faith, energy, mindfulness, immersion, and wisdom, when developed and cultivated, have freedom from death as their objective, destination, and culmination.”

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Self-check quiz

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Question 1 of 3
How does Sāriputta answer the Buddha's own question about faith?
Correct: A. A remarkable distinction, drawn even in the Buddha's own presence.
Question 2 of 3
What distinction does Sāriputta's own answer draw?
Correct: A. Confirmed and repeated back by the Buddha's own approval.
Question 3 of 3
What does this discourse's own closing formula share with SN 48.42?
Correct: A. The same conceptual shape, two names for the same final goal.
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