Saṃyutta Nikāya · Discourse 56.30

With Gavampati

Gavampatisutta — Koṭigāmavagga

Setting
The land of the Cetīs, at Sahajāti
Speaker
Venerable Gavampati, answering senior mendicants' own question by appeal to what he personally heard from the Buddha
Form
A question raised in discussion, then a named elder's own answer, quoted at length, then this vagga's own closing colophon and uddāna
Length
1–2 minutes to read
Northern parallel
No individual parallel confirmed by this project's own check
Significance
★★★★★ — confirmed by direct reading of the root colophon as the close of Vagga 3, ten discourses, and this vagga's own only genuine narrative discourse

Why this discourse

Confirmed by direct reading of its own root colophon, this discourse closes Vagga 3 (“Koṭigāmavaggo tatiyo”) with a genuine narrative: several senior mendicants at Sahajāti in the land of the Cetīs debate whether seeing one of the four truths entails seeing the others, until Venerable Gavampati settles the question by recalling what he personally heard the Buddha say — that seeing any one of the four truths means seeing all four together, in every possible combination.

Reading guide

This vagga's own only genuine narrative

This project's own reading: unlike every other discourse in Vagga 3 — monologues, paired claims, or etymological explanations — this discourse alone stages an actual scene: senior mendicants seated together after almsround, a question arising among them, and one named elder settling it by appeal to direct personal testimony.

Mutual implication, stated in every combination

Confirmed by direct reading, Gavampati's own recollected teaching states the claim not once but four times, once for each truth taken as the starting point: whoever sees suffering also sees its origin, cessation, and the path; whoever sees the origin also sees suffering, cessation, and the path; and so for each of the remaining two — a complete, symmetric statement of mutual implication among all four.

Key terms

yo nu kho, āvuso, dukkhaṁ passati dukkhasamudayampi so passati — “does someone who sees suffering also see the origin of suffering?” — the question raised among the senior mendicants
sammukhā metaṁ, āvuso, bhagavato sutaṁ, sammukhā paṭiggahitaṁ — “I have heard and learned this in the presence of the Buddha” — Gavampati's own claim of direct personal testimony, grounding his own answer's authority
dasamaṁ. koṭigāmavaggo tatiyo — “tenth. the third vagga [ends]” — the root colophon's own vagga-closing marker
gavampati — the elder mendicant this discourse is named for, settling a doctrinal question by direct personal recollection
dve vajjī sammāsambuddho, arahaṁ āsavakkhayo; mittaṁ tathā ca loko ca, pariññeyyaṁ gavampatīti — the closing uddāna's own ten titles, confirmed by direct reading to match SN 56.21 through SN 56.30 exactly

The text

Every genuinely translated fragment given in the consulted English source. The vagga-closing colophon and uddāna verse are left untranslated in the consulted English source, as at several earlier vagga closes throughout this project's own work. Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato (CC0, SuttaCentral).

§1At one time several mendicants were staying in the land of the Cetīs at Sahajāti. Now at that time, after the meal, on return from almsround, several senior mendicants sat together in the pavilion and this discussion came up among them: “Reverends, does someone who sees suffering also see the origin of suffering, the cessation of suffering, and the practice that leads to the cessation of suffering?”

§2When they said this, Venerable Gavampati said to those senior mendicants: “Reverends, I have heard and learned this in the presence of the Buddha: ‘Someone who sees suffering also sees the origin of suffering, the cessation of suffering, and the practice that leads to the cessation of suffering. Someone who sees the origin of suffering also sees suffering, the cessation of suffering, and the practice that leads to the cessation of suffering. Someone who sees the cessation of suffering also sees suffering, the origin of suffering, and the practice that leads to the cessation of suffering. Someone who sees the practice that leads to the cessation of suffering also sees suffering, the origin of suffering, and the cessation of suffering.’”

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Self-check quiz

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Question 1 of 3
What does this discourse's own root colophon confirm, according to this project's own direct reading?
Correct: A. Confirmed by direct reading of the root Pali colophon, not assumed in advance.
Question 2 of 3
How does this discourse's own structure compare to its own companions earlier in this vagga, per this project's own reading?
Correct: A. Confirmed by direct reading — this vagga's own only genuine narrative among otherwise formulaic discourses.
Question 3 of 3
What claim does Gavampati recall the Buddha having taught?
Correct: A. Confirmed by direct reading — a complete, symmetric statement of mutual implication among all four truths.
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