Reading guide
A verse identical to SN 1.23, word for word
This discourse's opening question and the Buddha's full answering verses match SN 1.23's Jaṭāsutta exactly, a genuine cross-collection duplicate rather than a coincidental shared title — the same teaching delivered to two different audiences, or perhaps recorded once and placed in two collections.
A riddle stated with deliberate ambiguity
‘Tangled within, tangled without’ doesn't specify what the tangle actually consists of; the vagueness is likely deliberate, inviting the answer to supply the content rather than restricting the question in advance.
An answer that builds through three distinct stages
The reply doesn't offer a single formula; it moves from who is qualified to untangle it (the ethically grounded, wise, diligent practitioner), to who already has (the arahants, defilements ended), to where the untangling actually occurs (the cessation of name and form) — practitioner, achievement, and mechanism given in sequence.
A tradition crediting this verse with a major treatise
This question is traditionally associated with prompting Buddhaghosa's Visuddhimagga (The Path of Purification), a work this reading guide has separately covered as a full readers' guide — connecting this brief riddle to a commentarial tradition many centuries later.
Cessation of name and form as the final, technical answer
The verse's closing image doesn't end on a general statement about wisdom; it names a specific technical point — where nāma-rūpa (name and form, the basic mind-body constituents) cease without residue — giving the riddle's resolution a precision matching its opening's deliberate vagueness.
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The text
§1At Sāvatthī. Then the brahmin Bhāradvāja of the Matted Hair went up to the Buddha, and exchanged greetings with him. When the greetings and polite conversation were over, he sat down to one side, and addressed the Buddha in verse:
§2“Tangled within, tangled without: these people are tangled in tangles. I ask you this, Gotama: who can untangle this tangle?”
§3“A wise person grounded in ethics, developing the mind and wisdom, a keen and alert mendicant—they can untangle this tangle.
§4Those in whom greed, hate, and ignorance have faded away; the perfected ones with defilements ended—they have untangled the tangle.
§5Where name and form cease with no residue left behind; as well as impingement and perception of form: it’s there that the tangle is cut.”
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