Sutta Nipāta · Discourse 5.5

The Questions of Mettagū

Mettagūmāṇavapucchā

Setting
Continuing directly from Snp 5.1–5.4 — the same gathering at the Pāsāṇaka Shrine near Rājagaha, the fourth student now stepping forward
Speakers
The Buddha and the student Mettagū, fourth of Bāvarī's sixteen students named in Snp 5.1
Form
Twelve verses — the longest single student exchange covered on this page, moving from diagnosis to a warmly personal closing exchange
Length
~3 minutes to read
Frame
Part of one continuous work: see Snp 5.1 for the full story of Bāvarī and his sixteen students
Difficulty
★★★☆☆ — the doctrinal core is compact, but the discourse's warmth and personal address to Mettagū reward close reading

Why this discourse, the fourth question

Mettagū, fourth-named among Bāvarī's sixteen students, asks a question with universal reach: where do all these sufferings come from, in all their countless forms in the world? The Buddha's answer names a single root — upadhi, attachment or grasping, the thing an ignorant person keeps building up and returning to suffering through, again and again. Mettagū presses further, asking how the attentive cross the flood of rebirth, old age, sorrow, and lamenting, and the Buddha describes a teaching “apparent in the present, not relying on tradition” — something to be verified directly, not taken on faith. What makes this exchange distinct within the chapter is its close: Mettagū, visibly moved, asks the Buddha to instruct him personally and regularly, and the Buddha's final answer describes the brahmin “knowledge master” who has crossed the flood entirely.

Reading guide

The discourse in one sentence

Mettagū, the fourth of Bāvarī's sixteen students, asks where all the world's suffering comes from; the Buddha traces it to attachment (upadhi), describes a teaching “apparent in the present” by which the attentive cross the flood of rebirth and lamenting, and closes with a personal exchange in which Mettagū asks to be instructed directly.

The frame: the fourth of sixteen questions

As told in full in Snp 5.1, Bāvarī, an aged brahmin teacher unable to travel himself, sent sixteen of his finest students — Ajita, Tissametteyya, Puṇṇaka, Mettagū, Dhotaka, Upasīva, Nanda, Hemaka, Todeyya, Kappa, Jatukaṇṇī, Bhadrāvudha, Udaya, Posāla, Mogharāja, and Piṅgiya — to question the newly awakened Buddha directly. Three students have already spoken, in Snp 5.2 through 5.4; Mettagū, fourth in Bāvarī's list, now asks what may be the single broadest question of the whole sequence.

The single root of suffering: attachment

Mettagū's opening question could hardly be larger in scope: where do all these sufferings come from, in all their countless forms in the world? The Buddha's answer resists multiplying causes — instead of listing many sources, he names one: upadhi, attachment or “what is grasped,” is “the source of suffering in all its countless forms.” An ignorant person who keeps building up attachments “ returns to suffering again and again”; the one who understands this simply stops building them up, “contemplating the inception of suffering and rebirth.” The diagnosis is deliberately singular even as the symptoms it accounts for are described as countless.

Crossing the flood, verified in the present

Mettagū's follow-up asks something more practical: how do the attentive actually cross “the flood of rebirth, old age, sorrow, and lamenting”? The Buddha's answer is notable for a phrase that recurs throughout this chapter: he will extol a teaching “that is apparent in the present, not relying on tradition.” This is a strong claim about the kind of knowledge on offer — not inherited belief to be taken on trust, but something a person can verify for themselves, here and now, by living mindfully with understanding.

Consciousness, and the mendicant who lets it go

The Buddha's fuller instruction asks Mettagū to give up “relishing and dogmatism” regarding everything one is aware of — “above, below, all round, between” — and, having “cast aside consciousness,” not to continue in existence. A mendicant who wanders meditating this way, diligent and mindful, calling nothing their own, gives up the suffering of rebirth, old age, sorrow, and lamenting “right here” — not in some future life, but in this one.

A personal request, and the knowledge master who has crossed

What distinguishes this discourse from the more purely doctrinal exchanges around it is its warmth. Mettagū responds with visible emotion — “I rejoice in the words of the great seer!” — and then asks something unusually direct and personal: surely those the Buddha regularly instructs would also give up suffering; having met him, Mettagū bows especially, hoping the Buddha “may regularly instruct me.” The Buddha's closing answer broadens back out to a general description rather than a private promise: any brahmin recognized as a “knowledge master,” who has nothing and is unattached to sensual life, has “crossed this flood, crossed to the far shore, kind, wishless” — having untied the bond to life after life, free of craving, with no need for hope.

Key terms

upadhi — attachment, grasping, or “what is taken up”; named here as the single source of suffering in all its countless forms.
Mettagū — fourth-named of Bāvarī's sixteen students in Snp 5.1, whose exchange closes with an unusually personal request to be instructed directly.
“apparent in the present, not relying on tradition” — a phrase describing the teaching's verifiability, recurring at several points across this chapter's exchanges.
the far shore (pāra) — the destination that gives the whole Pārāyanavagga its name, here reached by the “knowledge master” who has crossed the flood.
context · the sixteen students — Mettagū is the fourth of sixteen brahmin students Bāvarī sends to question the Buddha (see Snp 5.1); each of Snp 5.2 through 5.17 belongs to one of them in turn.

The text

All twelve verses of Mettagū's exchange with the Buddha, given in full. Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato (CC0, SuttaCentral).

Verse 1049“I ask you, Blessed One; please tell me this,”
said Venerable Mettagū,
“for I think you are a knowledge master, evolved.
Where do all these sufferings come from,
in all their countless forms in the world?”

Verse 1050“You have rightly asked me of the origin of suffering,”
replied the Buddha,
“I shall tell you as I understand it.
Attachment is the source of suffering
in all its countless forms in the world.

Verse 1051When an ignorant person builds up attachments,
that dullard returns to suffering again and again.
So let one who understands not build up attachments,
contemplating the inception of suffering and rebirth.”

Verse 1052“Whatever I asked you have explained to me.
I ask you once more, please tell me this:
How do the attentive cross the flood
of rebirth, old age, sorrow, and lamenting?
Please, sage, answer me clearly,
for truly you understand this matter.”

Verse 1053“I shall extol a teaching to you,”
replied the Buddha,
“that is apparent in the present, not relying on tradition.
Having understood it, one who lives mindfully
may cross over clinging in the world.”

Verse 1054“And I rejoice, great seer,
in that supreme teaching,
having understood which, one who lives mindfully
may cross over clinging in the world.”

Verse 1055“Once you’ve expelled relishing and dogmatism,”
replied the Buddha,
“regarding everything you are aware of—
above, below, all round, between—
having cast aside consciousness, don’t continue in existence.

Verse 1056A mendicant who wanders meditating like this,
diligent and mindful, calling nothing their own,
would, being wise, give up the suffering
of rebirth, old age, sorrow and lamenting right here.”

Verse 1057“I rejoice in the words of the great seer!
You have expounded non-attachment well, Gotama.
Clearly the Buddha has given up suffering,
for truly you understand this matter.

Verse 1058Surely, sage, those you’d regularly instruct
would also give up suffering.
Having met, I bow especially to you, O spiritual giant;
hopefully the Buddha may regularly instruct me.”

Verse 1059“Any brahmin recognized as a knowledge master,
who has nothing, unattached to sensual life,
clearly has crossed this flood,
crossed to the far shore, kind, wishless.

Verse 1060And a wise person here, a knowledge master,
having untied the bond to life after life,
free of craving, untroubled, with no need for hope,
has crossed over rebirth and old age, I declare.”

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Self-check quiz

Ten questions. Click an answer to see immediate feedback. No score is recorded — this is for your own checking.

Question 1 of 10
Who is Mettagū, and where does his question fall among the sixteen students?
Correct: C. His exchange, at twelve verses, is longer and warmer in tone than several around it.
Question 2 of 10
What does Mettagū ask about in his opening question?
Correct: A. A question with about as broad a scope as any asked in this chapter.
Question 3 of 10
What single root does the Buddha name as the source of all suffering?
Correct: D. The Buddha's answer resists multiplying causes, naming instead a single underlying source.
Question 4 of 10
What happens, according to verse 1051, to an ignorant person who keeps building up attachments?
Correct: B. The one who understands, by contrast, does not build up attachments in the first place.
Question 5 of 10
How does the Buddha describe the teaching he offers about crossing the flood?
Correct: C. This phrase recurs at several points across the Pārāyanavagga's exchanges.
Question 6 of 10
What does the Buddha say a mendicant should do regarding "everything you are aware of — above, below, all round, between"?
Correct: A. This instruction directly precedes the description of the mendicant who gives up suffering "right here."
Question 7 of 10
What makes this discourse's closing exchange distinct from many others in this chapter, according to the reading guide?
Correct: D. "Having met, I bow especially to you... hopefully the Buddha may regularly instruct me."
Question 8 of 10
How does the Buddha answer Mettagū's personal request to be instructed regularly?
Correct: B. The final two verses describe that knowledge master as free of craving, untroubled, with no need for hope.
Question 9 of 10
What phrase does the discourse use for someone who has "crossed this flood"?
Correct: C. "Pārāyana" itself means "the way to the far shore."
Question 10 of 10
Why does the reading guide say Snp 5.1 matters for understanding why Mettagū is speaking with the Buddha at all?
Correct: A. Each of Snp 5.2 through 5.17 belongs to one of the sixteen students named in that opening discourse.
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