Sutta Nipāta · Discourse 5.6

The Questions of Dhotaka

Dhotakamāṇavapucchā

Setting
Continuing directly from Snp 5.1–5.5 — the same gathering at the Pāsāṇaka Shrine near Rājagaha, the fifth student now stepping forward
Speakers
The Buddha and the student Dhotaka, fifth of Bāvarī's sixteen students named in Snp 5.1
Form
Eight verses, urgent in tone, asking directly for “extinguishment” rather than for doctrine
Length
~2 minutes to read
Frame
Part of one continuous work: see Snp 5.1 for the full story of Bāvarī and his sixteen students
Difficulty
★★★☆☆ — direct and urgent, though its central line about self-reliance is easy to misread as a rejection of teaching altogether

Why this discourse, the fifth question

Dhotaka, fifth-named among Bāvarī's sixteen students, asks for something more urgent and personal than most of the questions around his: not an explanation, but liberation itself, “here and now.” His opening line is almost a plea — “I long for your voice, great seer” — and he says plainly that after hearing the Buddha's message he intends to train for extinguishment. What follows contains one of this chapter's most quoted and most easily misunderstood lines: the Buddha tells Dhotaka he is “not able to release anyone in the world who is indecisive” through words alone — a statement less about withholding help than about where the actual work of liberation has to happen.

Reading guide

The discourse in one sentence

Dhotaka, the fifth of Bāvarī's sixteen students, asks urgently for the highest peace, here and now; the Buddha tells him plainly that no one can be released by another person's words alone, and then teaches the “principle of seclusion” Dhotaka needs to understand and act on for himself.

The frame: the fifth of sixteen questions

As Snp 5.1 tells in full, Bāvarī, an aged brahmin teacher unable to travel himself, sent sixteen of his finest students — Ajita, Tissametteyya, Puṇṇaka, Mettagū, Dhotaka, Upasīva, Nanda, Hemaka, Todeyya, Kappa, Jatukaṇṇī, Bhadrāvudha, Udaya, Posāla, Mogharāja, and Piṅgiya — to question the newly awakened Buddha directly. Four students have already spoken, in Snp 5.2 through 5.5; Dhotaka, fifth in Bāvarī's list, now asks his question with a directness that stands out even in this chapter.

“I long for your voice”: a plea, not a puzzle

Where other students in this chapter frame their opening lines as riddles or broad philosophical questions, Dhotaka's is closer to a plea. “I long for your voice, great seer,” he says, and states his intent plainly: after hearing the Buddha's message, he will train himself for extinguishment. There is no preamble of praise or elaborate metaphor — just an immediate request for what he actually wants.

“I am not able to release anyone who is indecisive”

Dhotaka presses further, calling the Buddha “a brahmin travelling with nothing” and asking to be released from his “indecisions.” The Buddha's answer is the discourse's most memorable and most easily misread line: “I am not able to release anyone in the world who is indecisive, Dhotaka. But when you understand the best of teachings, you shall cross this flood.” This is not a refusal to help. It is a statement about the actual mechanics of liberation: understanding has to happen in Dhotaka himself, and no amount of talk from outside can substitute for that inner event. The Buddha offers the teaching; only Dhotaka's own understanding of it can cross the flood.

The principle of seclusion, apparent in the present

Dhotaka asks, “out of compassion,” to be taught “the principle of seclusion” so that he can practice “peaceful, independent, unobstructed as space itself.” The Buddha's answer again uses the recurring phrase found across this chapter: he will extol a peace “that is apparent in the present, not relying on tradition” — something verifiable directly, not a doctrine to be taken on authority. Dhotaka's own response, mirroring language used by Mettagū in the previous discourse, expresses rejoicing in that same “supreme peace.”

Everything as a snare

The Buddha's closing instruction widens the frame in a single striking image: once Dhotaka has understood that everything he is aware of in the world — “above, below, all round, between” — is “a snare,” he should not crave for life after life. The word “snare” recasts ordinary experience itself, in every direction and dimension, as something actively designed to catch and hold; seeing that clearly is what removes the pull toward further existence.

Key terms

Dhotaka — fifth-named of Bāvarī's sixteen students in Snp 5.1, whose urgent request for liberation gives this discourse its distinctive, direct tone.
“not able to release anyone who is indecisive” — the Buddha's central statement: understanding must occur within the student, not merely be transmitted by another person's words.
the principle of seclusion — what Dhotaka specifically asks to be taught, described by the Buddha as “apparent in the present, not relying on tradition.”
a snare — the discourse's closing image for everything a person is aware of in any direction, recast as something that actively catches and holds unless seen clearly.
context · the sixteen students — Dhotaka is the fifth of sixteen brahmin students Bāvarī sends to question the Buddha (see Snp 5.1); each of Snp 5.2 through 5.17 belongs to one of them in turn.

The text

All eight verses of Dhotaka's exchange with the Buddha, given in full. Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato (CC0, SuttaCentral).

Verse 1061“I ask you, Blessed One; please tell me this,”
said Venerable Dhotaka,
“I long for your voice, great seer.
After hearing your message,
I shall train myself for extinguishment.”

Verse 1062“Well then, be keen, alert,”
replied the Buddha,
“and mindful right here.
After hearing this message, go on
and train yourself for extinguishment.”

Verse 1063“I see in the world of gods and humans
a brahmin travelling with nothing.
I bow especially to you, All-seer:
release me, Sakyan, from my indecisions.”

Verse 1064“I am not able to release anyone
in the world who is indecisive, Dhotaka.
But when you understand the best of teachings,
you shall cross this flood.”

Verse 1065“Teach me, brahmin, out of compassion,
the principle of seclusion so that I may understand.
I wish to practice right here, peaceful, independent,
unobstructed as space itself.”

Verse 1066“I shall extol that peace for you,”
replied the Buddha,
“that is apparent in the present, not relying on tradition.
Having understood it, one who lives mindfully
may cross over clinging in the world.”

Verse 1067“And I rejoice, great seer,
in that supreme peace,
having understood which, one who lives mindfully
may cross over clinging in the world.”

Verse 1068“Once you have understood that everything,”
replied the Buddha,
“you are aware of in the world—
above, below, all round, between—
is a snare, don’t crave for life after life.”

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Self-check quiz

Ten questions. Click an answer to see immediate feedback. No score is recorded — this is for your own checking.

Question 1 of 10
Who is Dhotaka, and where does his question fall among the sixteen students?
Correct: B. His tone is notably more urgent and direct than several of the exchanges around it.
Question 2 of 10
How does the reading guide characterize the tone of Dhotaka's opening question, compared to other students in this chapter?
Correct: C. He states his intent plainly: to train for extinguishment after hearing the Buddha's message.
Question 3 of 10
What is the Buddha's memorable response when Dhotaka asks to be "released" from his indecisions?
Correct: A. The line is easy to misread as a refusal, but it is really a statement about where understanding has to occur.
Question 4 of 10
According to the reading guide, what point is the Buddha actually making with that statement?
Correct: D. The Buddha offers the teaching, but only Dhotaka's own understanding of it can cross the flood.
Question 5 of 10
What does Dhotaka specifically ask the Buddha to teach him "out of compassion"?
Correct: C. The Buddha answers by describing a peace "apparent in the present, not relying on tradition."
Question 6 of 10
What phrase, also used in Mettagū's discourse (Snp 5.5), describes the teaching the Buddha offers Dhotaka?
Correct: B. This recurring phrase across the chapter stresses the teaching's direct verifiability.
Question 7 of 10
What image does the Buddha use in his final answer for everything a person is aware of, "above, below, all round, between"?
Correct: A. Understanding this clearly is what removes the craving for further existence.
Question 8 of 10
What does Dhotaka call the Buddha in verse 1063?
Correct: D. A striking description given that Dhotaka and his fellow students were themselves brahmins trained for ritual, not renunciation.
Question 9 of 10
What event, told in full in Snp 5.1, explains why Dhotaka is at this gathering with the Buddha?
Correct: C. Dhotaka is fifth in the list of sixteen students Bāvarī names in Snp 5.1.
Question 10 of 10
What does Dhotaka say he intends to do, right at the start of the discourse, once he has heard the Buddha's message?
Correct: B. This stated intent — to actually practice, not merely to be told an answer — frames the whole exchange.
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