Udāna · Soṇavagga · Discourse 5.7

With Revata the Doubter

Kaṅkhārevatasutta

Setting
Near Sāvatthī, in Jeta’s Grove, Anāthapiṇḍika’s monastery
Figures
Venerable Revata the Doubter and the Buddha
Occasion
The Buddha silently observes Revata meditating nearby
Length
~1 minute to read
Chapter
Soṇavagga (Ud 5.1–5.10), the fifth of the Udāna’s eight chapters — named for Ud 5.6, “With Soṇa”
Difficulty
★☆☆☆☆ — a single observed moment and a four-line verse

Why this heartfelt saying

The Buddha says nothing to Revata directly. He simply watches a monk nicknamed “the Doubter” sitting cross-legged, reviewing his own purification, having already traversed the very doubt his name commemorates — and turns the sight into a verse about what actually resolves uncertainty.

Reading guide

A nickname earned, then outgrown

This sutta introduces Venerable Revata by his epithet: “the Doubter” (Kaṅkhā-Revata). But the moment the text captures him in is not doubt — it’s the far side of it. He is “sitting not far from the Buddha, cross-legged, with his body straight, reviewing his own purification by traversing doubt.” The nickname and the scene sit in quiet tension: whatever uncertainty once defined him, the text finds him here in the act of having gotten past it, checking his own clarity rather than struggling for it.

What kind of doubt?

The verse specifies the scope with some precision: “Any doubts about this life or the next, about one’s own experiences or those of another.” That is a comprehensive sweep — not merely doctrinal uncertainty about a teaching, but uncertainty about one’s own present existence, what comes after death, and even how to weigh one’s own experience against someone else’s account of theirs. It is the kind of doubt that could unsettle a practitioner from every direction at once.

Meditation as what actually resolves it

The verse credits a specific method for dissolving all of this: “those who meditate give them all up, keenly practicing the spiritual life.” Not debate, not persuasion, not simply being told the right answer — meditators (jhāyino) are named as the ones who let go of doubt, and they do it through the same “keen practice” that Ud 5.2’s verse recommends in light of impermanence. Revata, watched in silence, becomes a living example of the process the verse describes in the abstract.

Key terms

kaṅkhā — “doubt” — the quality named in Revata’s own epithet, Kaṅkhā-Revata, “Revata the Doubter,” and in the sutta’s Pali title, Kaṅkhārevatasutta.
“traversing doubt” — vitiṇṇakaṅkha, a standard formula in the canon for the clarity that marks a stream-enterer or higher attainment; here shown as something Revata reviews in his own meditation.
jhāyino — “those who meditate” — the verse’s specific answer to who actually gives up doubt, naming meditative practice rather than argument.
“this life or the next” — one half of the verse’s comprehensive scope of doubt, paired with uncertainty about “one’s own experiences or those of another.”
the cross-legged posture — “cross-legged, with his body straight” — the same meditation posture the Buddha observes in Cūḷapanthaka in Ud 5.10, later in this same chapter.

The text

The discourse in full: the Buddha observes Revata meditating, and speaks a short verse. Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato (CC0, SuttaCentral).

§1So I have heard. At one time the Buddha was staying near Sāvatthī in Jeta’s Grove, Anāthapiṇḍika’s monastery. Now at that time Venerable Revata the Doubter was sitting not far from the Buddha, cross-legged, with his body straight, reviewing his own purification by traversing doubt.

§2The Buddha saw him meditating there.

§3Then, understanding this matter, on that occasion the Buddha expressed this heartfelt sentiment:

§4“Any doubts about this life or the next,
about one’s own experiences or those of another:
those who meditate give them all up,
keenly practicing the spiritual life.”

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Self-check quiz

Ten questions. Click an answer to see immediate feedback. No score is recorded — this is for your own checking.

Question 1 of 10
What is Venerable Revata’s epithet in this sutta?
Correct: B. He is introduced as “Venerable Revata the Doubter,” Kaṅkhā-Revata.
Question 2 of 10
What is Revata actually doing when the Buddha observes him?
Correct: B. He sits “cross-legged, with his body straight, reviewing his own purification by traversing doubt” — past tense, not present struggle.
Question 3 of 10
Does Revata say anything to the Buddha in this sutta?
Correct: C. The entire sutta consists of the Buddha seeing him meditating and then speaking the verse; there is no dialogue.
Question 4 of 10
What kinds of doubt does the verse name?
Correct: B. “Any doubts about this life or the next, about one’s own experiences or those of another” — a comprehensive scope.
Question 5 of 10
According to the verse, who gives up all these doubts?
Correct: B. “Those who meditate give them all up, keenly practicing the spiritual life.”
Question 6 of 10
What does the reading guide say is in tension with Revata’s nickname?
Correct: B. The nickname commemorates a past struggle; the scene shows him on the far side of it, reviewing his own clarity.
Question 7 of 10
What does “traversing doubt” (vitiṇṇakaṅkha) typically signal in the canon, per the reading guide?
Correct: B. It is a recognized formula for genuine, settled clarity, not a passing mood.
Question 8 of 10
What posture is Revata sitting in?
Correct: C. The same description recurs for Cūḷapanthaka in Ud 5.10, later in this chapter.
Question 9 of 10
How long is this sutta compared to others in the Soṇavagga?
Correct: B. Like Ud 5.9 and Ud 5.10, it consists of almost nothing but a glance and a verse.
Question 10 of 10
Which other page on this site treats a fetter directly, in a different but related sense?
Correct: A. SN 41.1 explores a different fetter through the simile of a black ox and white ox yoked together; doubt (vicikicchā) is itself one of the standard fetters and hindrances this meditating Revata has set aside.
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