Fascicle 35 · 阿毘達磨大毘婆沙論卷第三十五 · Complete

Cutting Off, and Growing Back

Fascicle 35 defines shame and moral dread as the two bright dharmas that protect the world and distinguish humans from animals, before turning to a remarkable, exhaustive investigation into how wrong view severs the wholesome roots entirely — who is capable of such a fall, which realms it reaches, whether it happens all at once or grade by grade — and, most strikingly, how even this gravest of falls can be reconnected, sometimes within this very life, so that the noble path remains walkable even for one who has cut himself off from every wholesome root he once possessed. This page carries Ru-Yi's complete translation.

Translator: Ru-Yi Meditation Center Status: fascicle 35 complete, 13 sections Source: Taishō T1545, vol. 27, fascicle 35 Topic: 慚愧 → 增上不善根微俱行不善根 → 斷善根 (shame and moral dread, predominant and subtly co-arising unwholesome roots, and the cutting-off and reconnection of wholesome roots), Shamelessness Nyāsa

Translation Method

The Chinese source is Xuánzàng's seventh-century translation of the Abhidharma-mahāvibhāṣā-śāstra (阿毘達磨大毘婆沙論), preserved in the Taishō canon (T1545, vol. 27) via the CBETA digital edition — public domain text, translated directly from the Chinese. The English wording throughout is Ru-Yi's own, and the reading notes are original, grounded in standard Sarvāstivāda scholarship rather than a specific named commentator's lecture transcript.

Fascicle 35 continues the second part of the Shamelessness Nyāsa (無慚愧納息第五之二), opened in fascicle 34. Terms established in earlier fascicles, such as shamelessness, lack of moral dread, and the nine grades of affliction, recur here and are not re-explained at each occurrence.

Classical text is set in the left-hand column below, our English in the right.

1. Shame and Moral Dread: The Two Bright Dharmas That Protect the World

Fascicle 35 opens by explaining why shame and moral dread — the proximate antidotes to the shamelessness and lack of moral dread from the fascicle before — deserve a treatise of their own: the Buddha calls them the two bright dharmas capable of protecting and guarding the world, without which there would exist neither a wholesome destiny nor liberation, and they are what makes possible every distinction of parent and child, elder and younger, noble and base — without them, the treatise says bluntly, sentient beings would be exactly like oxen and sheep.

Chinese Source

云何慚云何愧乃至廣說。問何故作此論。答為廣分別契經義故。謂契經說有慚有愧。雖作是說而不廣辨。云何為慚云何為愧。經是此論所依根本彼所不分別者今應廣分別之。復次欲令疑者得決定故。

Ru-Yi Translation

What is shame? What is moral dread? And so on, at length. One asks: why is this treatise composed? The answer: it is composed in order to fully discriminate the meaning of this sūtra passage. That is, the sūtra states that there exists shame and moral dread, yet, having said this much, does not discriminate it fully — what is meant by shame, and what is meant by moral dread? That sūtra is the fundamental basis upon which this treatise depends, and whatever it has left undiscriminated ought now to be discriminated fully. Further, this treatise is composed in order to bring those in doubt to a settled resolution —

謂此二法展轉相似。世間有情見有慚者言是有愧。見有愧者言是有慚。勿謂此二其體是一。今欲顯示性相差別令彼疑者得決定解。復次前雖已說無慚無愧而未說彼近對治法。今欲說彼近對治法所謂慚愧。復次如是二法唯是善性亦是施設善法勝因。如說何法相應心品一向是善。謂慚與愧欲顯其相令勤修習。復次如是二法守護世間。

that is, these two dharmas closely resemble one another in their mutual operation, and worldly sentient beings, upon seeing one who possesses shame, call him one who possesses moral dread, and, upon seeing one who possesses moral dread, call him one who possesses shame, as though these two possessed but a single substance; this treatise now wishes to reveal the distinction in their own inherent nature and characteristic, so that those in doubt may attain a settled understanding. Further, the foregoing has already spoken of shamelessness and lack of moral dread, without yet speaking of their own proximate antidotes; this treatise now wishes to speak of these proximate antidotes — namely, shame and moral dread. Further, these two dharmas are solely wholesome in nature, and are further posited as the predominant cause of wholesomeness generally, exactly as it is said: which mental cluster is wholesome in every case? It is that associated with shame and moral dread — this treatise now wishes to reveal their characteristic, so that they may be diligently cultivated. Further, these two dharmas protect and guard the world,

如世尊說有二白法能護世間。謂慚與愧。若無此二是則應無善趣解脫。欲顯其相令勤修習。復次如是二法能令有情種種差別。所謂父母兄弟姊妹男女眷屬尊卑長幼。若無此二如牛羊等。便無尊卑長幼差別。欲顯其相令勤修習故作斯論。

exactly as the Blessed One has stated: there are two bright dharmas capable of protecting and guarding the world — namely, shame and moral dread; were these two absent, there would then exist no wholesome destiny and no liberation — this treatise now wishes to reveal their characteristic, so that they may be diligently cultivated. Further, these two dharmas are able to bring about every manner of distinction among sentient beings — namely, parent and child, elder and younger brother, elder and younger sister, male and female, kinsfolk, noble and base, elder and junior; were these two absent, sentient beings would be exactly like oxen and sheep, possessing no such distinction of noble and base, elder and junior whatsoever — this treatise now wishes to reveal their characteristic, so that they may be diligently cultivated, and it is for this reason that this treatise is composed.

Reading note — Ru-Yi

The claim that shame and moral dread alone preserve the entire structure of human social distinction — parent from child, elder from younger, noble from base — mirrors exactly what fascicle 34 said about their absence erasing the difference between humans and pigs and dogs, and together these two passages build a consistent picture: civilization itself, in this treatise's own view, rests not on intelligence or law but on these two ordinary capacities for feeling exposed before oneself and before others.

2. Defining Shame and Moral Dread, and Their Distinction

The treatise works through the identical nature-aspect-object analysis it applied to shamelessness and lack of moral dread, defining shame as awe before what is worthy of mastery and moral dread as a profound perception of dread within wrongdoing itself, before addressing a genuine puzzle: if these two are solely contaminated, as one canonical text implies, how could a noble one's own mind ever be said to possess them at their most predominant? The resolution distinguishes preparatory effort, where shame and moral dread predominate, from the fundamental stage, where faith predominates — with both remaining fully compatible with the uncontaminated path.

Chinese Source

云何慚。答諸有慚有所慚有異慚。有羞有所羞有異羞。有敬有敬性。有自在有自在性。於自在者有怖畏轉。是謂慚。此本論主於異名義得善巧故作種種說。文雖差別而體無異。問此中所說差別名言。為顯自性。為顯行相。為顯所緣。有作是說。此顯慚自性。問若爾慚行相云何。答如一切善心心所法行相此行相亦爾。所以者何。彼相應故。問慚所緣云何。答一切法。有餘師說。此顯慚行相。此行相對餘應作四句。有慚非慚行相轉。謂慚作餘行相轉。有慚行相轉非慚謂慚相應法作慚行相轉。有慚亦慚行相轉。謂慚作慚行相轉。有非慚亦非慚行相轉。謂若取此種類應說慚相應法作餘行相轉若不爾者應說除前相。如說轉有四句。已轉當轉應知亦爾。如慚行相有三四句諸餘行相應知亦爾。問若爾慚自性云何。答自體自相即彼自性。如說諸法自性即是諸法自相。同類性是共相。問慚所緣云何。答一切法。復有說者。此顯慚所緣。謂諸有慚。有所慚有異慚有羞有所羞。有異羞者說緣苦集諦。有敬有敬性有自在有自在性。於自在者有怖畏轉者說緣滅道諦。自性行相皆如前說。

Ru-Yi Translation

What is shame? The answer: whatever shame there is, whatever possession of shame there is, whatever divergent shame there is, whatever modesty there is, whatever possession of modesty there is, whatever divergent modesty there is, whatever respect there is, whatever possession of the characteristic of respect there is, whatever mastery there is, whatever possession of the characteristic of mastery there is — with respect to one who possesses such mastery, there arises a kind of awe — this is called shame. This treatise's own author, being skilled in the various wordings of the meaning, expresses this through a variety of wordings, though its substance is not thereby distinct. One asks: do the various distinct terms spoken of in this passage reveal its own inherent nature, or do they reveal its aspect, or do they reveal its object? There are those who say: this reveals shame's own inherent nature. One asks: if so, then what is shame's own aspect? The answer: it is like the aspect of any wholesome mind and mental factor generally — this aspect, too, is of this same kind, since it stands in association with them. One asks: what is shame's own object? The answer: all dharmas. There are other masters who say: this passage reveals shame's own aspect. This aspect, in relation to other things, ought to be set out in four alternatives: there is a case of shame that does not operate through shame's own aspect — namely, shame operating through some other aspect; there is a case of operating through shame's own aspect that is not shame — namely, a dharma associated with shame operating through shame's own aspect; there is a case that is both shame and operates through shame's own aspect — namely, shame operating through shame's own aspect; there is a case that is neither shame nor operates through shame's own aspect — if this class is taken broadly, one ought to say that a dharma associated with shame operates through some other aspect; if not, one ought to say that this refers to whatever remains apart from the foregoing. Just as the case of "operating" admits of these four alternatives, so too, "having already operated" and "about to operate" should be understood in just the same way. Just as shame's own aspect admits of these three sets of four alternatives, so too should every other aspect be understood. One asks: if so, then what is shame's own inherent nature? The answer: its own substance, its own particular characteristic, is precisely its own inherent nature — exactly as it is said, the inherent nature of dharmas is precisely their own particular characteristic, and their belonging to the same class is their shared characteristic. One asks: what is shame's own object? The answer: all dharmas. There are yet others who say: this passage reveals shame's own object — that is, "whatever shame there is, whatever possession of shame there is, whatever divergent shame there is, whatever modesty there is, whatever possession of modesty there is, whatever divergent modesty there is" — these are said to take the truths of suffering and origin as their object; "whatever respect there is, whatever possession of the characteristic of respect there is, whatever mastery there is, whatever possession of the characteristic of mastery there is — with respect to one who possesses such mastery, there arises a kind of awe" — these are said to take the truths of cessation and the path as their object; their own inherent nature and aspect are as explained above.

云何愧答諸有愧。有所愧有異愧。有恥有所恥有異恥。於諸罪中有怖有畏深見怖畏是謂愧。此本論主於異名義得善巧故作種種說。文雖差別而體無異。問此中所說差別名言為顯自性。為顯行相。為顯所緣。有作是說。此顯愧自性。問若爾愧行相云何。答如一切善心心所法行相此行相亦爾。所以者何。彼相應故。問愧所緣云何。答一切法。有餘師說。此顯愧行相。此行相對餘應作四句。有愧非愧行相轉。謂愧作餘行相轉。有愧行相轉非愧。謂愧相應法作愧行相轉。有愧亦愧行相轉。謂愧作愧行相轉。有非愧亦非愧行相轉。謂若取此種類應說愧相應法作餘行相轉。若不爾者應說除前相。如說轉有四句。已轉當轉應知亦爾。如愧行相有三四句。諸餘行相應知亦爾。問若爾愧自性云何。答自體自相即彼自性如說諸法自性即是諸法自相。同類性是共相。問愧所緣云何。答一切法。復有說者。

What is moral dread? The answer: whatever moral dread there is, whatever possession of moral dread there is, whatever divergent moral dread there is, whatever remorse there is, whatever possession of remorse there is, whatever divergent remorse there is, and, with respect to every wrongdoing, whatever dread there is, whatever fear there is, and whatever profound perception of a cause for dread and fear there is — this is called moral dread. This treatise's own author, being skilled in the various wordings of the meaning, expresses this through a variety of wordings, though its substance is not thereby distinct. One asks: do the various distinct terms spoken of in this passage reveal its own inherent nature, or do they reveal its aspect, or do they reveal its object? There are those who say: this reveals moral dread's own inherent nature. One asks: if so, then what is moral dread's own aspect? The answer: it is like the aspect of any wholesome mind and mental factor generally — this aspect, too, is of this same kind, since it stands in association with them. One asks: what is moral dread's own object? The answer: all dharmas. There are other masters who say: this passage reveals moral dread's own aspect. This aspect, in relation to other things, ought to be set out in four alternatives: there is a case of moral dread that does not operate through moral dread's own aspect — namely, moral dread operating through some other aspect; there is a case of operating through moral dread's own aspect that is not moral dread — namely, a dharma associated with moral dread operating through moral dread's own aspect; there is a case that is both moral dread and operates through moral dread's own aspect — namely, moral dread operating through moral dread's own aspect; there is a case that is neither moral dread nor operates through moral dread's own aspect — if this class is taken broadly, one ought to say that a dharma associated with moral dread operates through some other aspect; if not, one ought to say that this refers to whatever remains apart from the foregoing. Just as the case of "operating" admits of these four alternatives, so too, "having already operated" and "about to operate" should be understood in just the same way. Just as moral dread's own aspect admits of these three sets of four alternatives, so too should every other aspect be understood. One asks: if so, then what is moral dread's own inherent nature? The answer: its own substance, its own particular characteristic, is precisely its own inherent nature — exactly as it is said, the inherent nature of dharmas is precisely their own particular characteristic, and their belonging to the same class is their shared characteristic. One asks: what is moral dread's own object? The answer: all dharmas. There are yet others who say:

此顯愧所緣。謂諸有愧有所愧有異愧有恥有所恥有異恥者。說緣滅道諦。於諸罪中有怖有畏深見怖畏者說緣苦集諦。自性行相皆如前說。慚愧何差別。答於自在者有怖畏轉是慚。於諸罪中深見怖畏是愧。如是差別。問何故復作此論。答阿毘達磨說此二法展轉相應其相相似。今欲分別慚愧二種性相差別故作此論。謂於自在者有怖畏轉是慚。於諸罪中深見怖畏是愧。復次有所恭敬是慚。有所怖畏是愧。如是次第與前所說無慚無愧差別相違應隨廣說。如是二法俱三界繫及不繫。唯是善遍與一切善心相應。問若爾施設論說當云何通。如說七力幾有漏幾無漏。答二。唯有漏。謂慚愧。五通有漏無漏。謂信等答彼論應說七力皆通有漏無漏。而不爾者有別意趣。謂彼說力加行根本。加行位中慚愧增故說唯有漏。根本位中信等增故說通二種。若不爾者聖道應不與慚愧相應。則聖者不應慚愧增上是故慚愧定通無漏。或有無慚似慚而轉。謂作惡時有羞如嫁娶等。或復有慚似無慚轉。謂作善時無羞如行施等。或有無慚似無慚轉。謂作惡時無羞如屠獵等。或復有慚似慚而轉。謂作善時有羞如悔過等。或有無愧似愧而轉。謂作惡時有恥如嫁娶等。或復有愧似無愧轉。謂作善時無恥如行施等。或有無愧似無愧轉。謂作惡時無恥如屠獵等。或復有愧似愧而轉。謂作善時有恥如悔過等。

this passage reveals moral dread's own object — that is, "whatever moral dread there is, whatever possession of moral dread there is, whatever divergent moral dread there is, whatever remorse there is, whatever possession of remorse there is, whatever divergent remorse there is" — these are said to take the truths of cessation and the path as their object; "with respect to every wrongdoing, whatever dread there is, whatever fear there is, and whatever profound perception of a cause for dread and fear there is" — this is said to take the truths of suffering and origin as its object; their own inherent nature and aspect are as explained above. What distinction is there between shame and moral dread? The answer: with respect to one who possesses mastery, there arising a kind of awe, is shame; with respect to every wrongdoing, profoundly perceiving a cause for dread and fear, is moral dread — such is their distinction. One asks: why is this treatise further composed? The answer: the Abhidharma states that these two dharmas mutually stand in association with one another, their own characteristics closely resembling one another; this treatise now wishes to discriminate the distinction in the own-nature and characteristic of shame and moral dread, and it is for this reason that this treatise is composed. That is, with respect to one who possesses mastery, there arising a kind of awe, is shame; with respect to every wrongdoing, profoundly perceiving a cause for dread and fear, is moral dread. Further, possessing a degree of reverence is shame; possessing a degree of dread is moral dread — this same sequence, and every distinction that follows from it, stands in direct contrast to the distinctions already given above between shamelessness and lack of moral dread, and should be broadly stated accordingly. These two dharmas alike are bound to the three realms, and are also unbound; they are solely wholesome, and pervasively stand in association with every wholesome mind. One asks: if so, then how is what the Prajñaptiśāstra states to be reconciled? As it is stated: of the seven powers, how many are contaminated, and how many uncontaminated? The answer: two are contaminated alone — namely, shame and moral dread; the remaining five extend to both the contaminated and the uncontaminated — namely, faith and the rest. The answer: that treatise ought properly to state that all seven powers extend to both the contaminated and the uncontaminated; that it does not so state reflects a distinct underlying intent — that is, that treatise speaks of power in terms of preparatory effort and its fundamental basis: at the stage of preparatory effort, shame and moral dread predominate, and it is for this reason that they are said to be contaminated alone; at the fundamental stage, faith and the rest predominate, and it is for this reason that they are said to extend to both. Were it not so, then the noble path ought not to stand in association with shame and moral dread, and it would then follow that a noble one's own shame and moral dread ought never to predominate — and it is for this reason that shame and moral dread most certainly do extend to the uncontaminated as well. There are cases of shamelessness that resemble shame in their operation — that is, when committing evil, there is nonetheless a kind of modesty, as with the arrangements of marriage; and there are cases of shame that resemble shamelessness in their operation — that is, when doing what is wholesome, there is nonetheless no modesty, as with the act of giving. There are cases of shamelessness that resemble shamelessness in their operation — that is, when committing evil, there is no modesty, as with butchering and hunting; and there are cases of shame that resemble shame in their operation — that is, when doing what is wholesome, there is modesty, as with repenting one's own faults. There are cases of lack of moral dread that resemble moral dread in their operation — that is, when committing evil, there is nonetheless a kind of remorse, as with the arrangements of marriage; and there are cases of moral dread that resemble lack of moral dread in their operation — that is, when doing what is wholesome, there is no remorse, as with the act of giving. There are cases of lack of moral dread that resemble lack of moral dread in their operation — that is, when committing evil, there is no remorse, as with butchering and hunting; and there are cases of moral dread that resemble moral dread in their operation — that is, when doing what is wholesome, there is remorse, as with repenting one's own faults.

Reading note — Ru-Yi

The catalog of paradoxical cases closing this section — shamelessness that looks like shame in arranging a marriage, shame that looks like shamelessness in the unselfconscious act of giving — is a genuinely subtle piece of moral psychology: it warns against reading outward modesty or its absence as a reliable guide to a person's actual inner state, since social convention and genuine virtue can point in opposite directions depending entirely on what specifically is being done.

3. A New Topic: Predominant and Subtly Co-Arising Unwholesome Roots

The fascicle turns to a new sūtra distinction — predominant unwholesome roots, powerful enough to sever wholesome roots entirely, against subtly co-arising unwholesome roots, the very last and most stubborn traces relinquished only at the final moment of departing from the desire realm's own defilement — addressing first why the sūtra passes over the middling grade entirely, since it is neither as dramatically visible as the extremes nor as rare, exemplified instead by ordinary people rather than famous figures like Aṅgulimāla.

Chinese Source

云何增上不善根。云何微俱行不善根乃至廣說。問何故作此論。答為廣分別契經義故。如契經說彼猶有微俱行不善根未斷。從此有餘不善法生由是當退。契經雖作是說而不廣辨其義。亦不說云何增上不善根。云何微俱行不善根。經是此論所依根本彼所不分別者今應廣分別之故作斯論。問何故此中不說中品不善根耶。答是作論者意欲爾故乃至廣說。復次應說而不說者當知此義有餘。復次已說初後即已顯中。如初後上下趣入已出加行究竟應知亦爾。復次若麁現易了易可施設易顯易說者此中說之。中品不爾是故不說。謂利根者如指鬘等。鈍根者如蛇奴等。麁現易了易可施設易顯易說中根不爾。

Ru-Yi Translation

What is a predominant unwholesome root? What is a subtly co-arising unwholesome root? And so on, at length. One asks: why is this treatise composed? The answer: it is composed in order to fully discriminate the meaning of this sūtra passage. As the sūtra states: he still possesses a subtly co-arising unwholesome root, not yet cut off, from which there will further arise unwholesome dharmas, and it is on this account that he will retrogress — yet, having said this much, the sūtra does not discriminate its meaning fully, nor does it state what is meant by a predominant unwholesome root, or what is meant by a subtly co-arising unwholesome root. That sūtra is the fundamental basis upon which this treatise depends, and whatever it has left undiscriminated ought now to be discriminated fully, and it is for this reason that this treatise is composed. One asks: why does this passage not speak of the middling grade of unwholesome root? The answer: this is simply because the author of the treatise intended it so, and so on, at length. Further, that it ought to be stated but is not stated here should be understood as a matter of surplus meaning left implicit. Further, having already spoken of the first and the last, the middle is thereby already indicated as well — exactly as, in speaking of first and last, or superior and inferior, or entering and emerging, or the beginning of preparatory effort and its ultimate completion, this same principle should be understood to apply. Further, this passage speaks only of whatever is coarse, manifest, easily understood, easily designated, easily displayed, and easily expressed; the middling grade is not so, and it is for this reason that it is not spoken of here — that is, one of sharp faculties is exemplified by such a figure as Aṅgulimāla, and one of dull faculties is exemplified by such a figure as the serpent-servant; these are coarse, manifest, easily understood, easily designated, easily displayed, and easily expressed, whereas one of middling faculties is not so.

復次中品攝在上下品中故不別說。謂說上品時中在下品劣於上故。

Further, the middling grade is already subsumed within the superior and inferior grades, and is therefore not separately mentioned — that is, when speaking of the superior grade, the middling is included within the inferior, since it is lesser than the superior;

說下品時中在上品勝於下故。復次上下品少世所希奇是以故說。中品極多非希奇故略而不說。云何增上不善根。答諸不善根能斷善根及離欲染時最初所捨。問諸不善根能斷善根者。為即是離欲染時最初所捨。為有異耶。設爾何失。若即是者如何言及。若有異者能斷善根諸不善根何時當斷。有說即是問若爾者如何言及。答義有異故。謂增上不善根極猛利故能斷善根。極麁重故離欲染時最初而捨。復次此不善根由二義故說名增上。一能斷滅諸善根故。二離欲染時最初所捨故。有說有異。問若爾者能斷善根諸不善根何時當斷。答離欲染時最初當斷。問如何有異。答多少有異。謂能斷善根者少。最初所捨者多。非離欲時最初所斷一切皆能斷善根故。問唯有邪見能斷善根。何緣乃說不善根耶。答雖根本時由邪見斷而加行位由不善根。顯加行時勢用勝故說不善根能斷善根。謂染淨法皆加行時勢用增上非究竟時。如說菩薩見老病死逼惱世間深心厭離。最初發起阿耨多羅三藐三菩提心。由此心故經三大劫阿僧企耶。修集種種難行苦行而無退轉。此甚為難非盡智時。修未來世三界所繫增上善根故加行時勢用為勝。有作是說。邪見所以能斷善根當知皆是不善根力。謂不善根摧伏善根令漸羸劣無勢力已。然後邪見乃能斷之故作是說。復有說者。此說邪見相應癡不善根能斷善根不說前位貪等。雖實邪見能斷善根爾時癡增故作是說如念住等。有餘師說。

when speaking of the inferior grade, the middling is included within the superior, since it exceeds the inferior. Further, the superior and inferior grades are rare and extraordinary in the world, and it is for this reason that they alone are mentioned; the middling grade is exceedingly common, and, not being extraordinary, is omitted and not mentioned. What is a predominant unwholesome root? The answer: it refers to whichever unwholesome roots are able to cut off wholesome roots, and are the very first to be relinquished at the time of departing from the desire realm's own defilement. One asks: are the unwholesome roots able to cut off wholesome roots precisely the same as those first relinquished at the time of departing from the desire realm's defilement, or are they distinct? Suppose either is granted — what fault would follow? If they are precisely the same, then why does the passage speak of "and"? And if they are distinct, then when are the unwholesome roots able to cut off wholesome roots themselves cut off? There are those who say: they are precisely the same. One asks: if so, then why does the passage speak of "and"? The answer: their meaning differs — that is, a predominant unwholesome root, being exceedingly keen and sharp, is able to cut off wholesome roots, and, being exceedingly coarse and heavy, is the very first to be relinquished at the time of departing from the desire realm's defilement. Further, this unwholesome root is called "predominant" for two reasons: first, because it is able to cut off and extinguish wholesome roots; second, because it is the very first to be relinquished at the time of departing from the desire realm's defilement. There are others who say: they are distinct. One asks: if so, then when are the unwholesome roots able to cut off wholesome roots themselves cut off? The answer: they are cut off at the very first moment of departing from the desire realm's defilement. One asks: how, then, are they distinct? The answer: they differ in extent — that is, those able to cut off wholesome roots are few, while those first relinquished are many, since not everything first cut off at the time of departing from desire is thereby able to cut off wholesome roots. One asks: it is wrong view alone that is able to cut off wholesome roots — why, then, does this passage speak of "unwholesome roots"? The answer: although, at the fundamental stage, it is wrong view that accomplishes the cutting-off, at the stage of preparatory effort it is the unwholesome roots that do so — and, since the function operating at the stage of preparatory effort is the more predominant one, this passage speaks of "unwholesome roots" as cutting off wholesome roots. That is, both defiling and purifying dharmas display their most predominant function at the stage of preparatory effort, not at the stage of ultimate completion — exactly as it is said: when the Bodhisattva beheld old age, sickness, and death oppressing and afflicting the world, a profound weariness and renunciation arose in him, and he first gave rise to the mind resolved upon unsurpassed, perfect, complete enlightenment; and, through the power of this mind, across three great incalculable eons, he cultivated and accumulated every manner of difficult and arduous practice without ever retrogressing — this was exceedingly difficult to accomplish, yet it was not at the moment of the knowledge of exhaustion that he cultivated the predominant wholesome roots of the future, belonging to the three realms; it is at the stage of preparatory effort that the function is most predominant. There are those who say: the very reason wrong view is able to cut off wholesome roots should be understood to lie entirely in the power of the unwholesome roots — that is, the unwholesome roots first subdue the wholesome roots, causing them gradually to weaken until they possess no further strength, and only then is wrong view able to cut them off, and it is for this reason that the passage speaks as it does. There are others who say: this passage speaks of the unwholesome root of delusion associated with wrong view as what is able to cut off wholesome roots, and does not speak of the prior stage's greed and the rest — although it is, in truth, wrong view that cuts off wholesome roots, since delusion predominates at that very moment, the passage speaks as it does, exactly as with the establishments of mindfulness and the like. There are other masters who say:

Reading note — Ru-Yi

The observation that the middling grade goes unmentioned precisely because it is too common to be extraordinary is a small but revealing methodological confession: canonical teaching, this treatise admits, gravitates toward the dramatic and the exceptional — the mass murderer, the serpent-servant — not because ordinary, middling cases matter less, but because they make poor material for a teaching meant to be memorable and vivid.

4. Why Delusion Alone Is Named Among the Unwholesome Roots

The treatise completes its formal definitions and turns to a genuinely interesting psychological observation: greed and hatred predominate only during their own actual moment of operation, while wrong view predominates throughout the whole duration of its operation without limit — and delusion alone predominates at every single time without exception, which is why, even though it is technically wrong view that severs wholesome roots, this passage speaks only of the unwholesome root of delusion as what is truly doing the work.

Chinese Source

此中但說癡不善根轉。隨轉時俱增上故。謂貪瞋轉時增上非隨轉時。邪見隨轉時增上非於轉時。唯癡一切時增上是故偏說。即由如是所說因緣不立邪見為不善根。云何微俱行不善根。答諸不善根離欲染時最後所捨。由捨彼故名離欲染。謂欲界下下品貪瞋癡名微俱行不善根。故捨彼時名離欲染微細難斷故最後離。

Ru-Yi Translation

this passage speaks only of the unwholesome root of delusion as what operates, since it is this alone that predominates during the actual course of operation — that is, when greed and hatred operate, they predominate only during their own actual course of operation, not throughout the whole duration of their operation, whereas wrong view predominates only during the whole duration of its operation, not merely during its actual course; delusion alone predominates at every time, and it is for this reason that this passage speaks of it in particular. It is precisely on account of these stated causes and conditions that wrong view is not established as an unwholesome root in its own right. What is a subtly co-arising unwholesome root? The answer: it refers to whichever unwholesome roots are the very last to be relinquished at the time of departing from the desire realm's defilement; it is through relinquishing them that one is said to have departed from the desire realm's defilement — that is, the very lowest grade of craving, hatred, and delusion belonging to the desire realm is called a subtly co-arising unwholesome root, and it is for this reason that, at the moment of relinquishing it, one is said to have departed from the desire realm's defilement, since it is subtle and difficult to cut off, and is therefore the very last to be departed from.

Reading note — Ru-Yi

The distinction between an affliction that predominates only in the moment of its own arising and one that predominates for the entire duration of its operation captures something genuinely important about how delusion functions differently from craving or hatred: a burst of anger or desire eventually subsides on its own, but ignorance, once operative, simply continues coloring everything for as long as it remains unaddressed — which is exactly why the treatise treats it as the true engine beneath the more dramatic-looking act of wrong view.

5. One Grade or Nine? An Escalating Debate Resolved Through Four Kinds of “Nine”

A genuinely intricate technical puzzle unfolds: does the wrong view that cuts off wholesome roots operate in a single grade, or does it operate gradewise across all nine, matching the nine grades of wholesome root it destroys? The treatise's own resolution distinguishes four entirely different senses in which something can be spoken of as “nine grades” — manifest operation, ripened fruit, antidote, and the actual cutting-off of wholesome roots — showing that the seemingly contradictory earlier and later statements were each speaking, all along, about a different one of these four.

Chinese Source

問邪見斷善根時為作一品斷為作九品斷耶。設爾何失。若作一品斷者何故前說諸不善根能斷善根。諸言所表非唯一故。次後所說復云何通。如說云何微俱行善根。答斷善根時最後所捨。若作九品斷者。云何前說諸不善根能斷善根。離欲染時最初所捨名增上不善根耶。如何一品所斷邪見能作九品斷善根耶。如何一品邪見所斷而名九品所斷善耶。有作是說作一品斷。問若爾何故前說諸不善根能斷善根。答前文但應說不善根能斷善根。不應說諸。而說諸者。欲顯斷善邪見相應癡不善根。未來種類有多剎那故作是說。復次正斷善時雖無多品而加行位品類有多。所說諸言通顯加行伏斷正斷俱名斷故。問次後所說復云何通。如說云何微俱行善根。答斷善根時最後所捨。答依現行斷故作是說。謂下下品邪見現前令上上品善根不行。如是乃至若上中品邪見現前。令下中品善根不行。若上上品邪見現前。令下下品善根不行。及令九品皆不成就。故前八品善根先得不現行。後得不成就。第九品善根得不現行時即得不成就以漸次得不現行故。後作是說斷善根時最後所捨名微俱行善根。以一時得不成就故。前作是說離欲染時最初所捨名能斷善增上不善根。是故前後二說善通。應作是說。作九品斷。問若爾云何前說諸不善根能斷善根。離欲染時最初所捨名增上不善根乃至廣說。答有多種九品。謂有現行九品。有異熟九品。有對治九品。有斷善根九品。現行九品者。謂有時下下品現行。乃至有時上上品現行。有即說此為因九品。謂加行得者下下品為九品因。乃至上中品為二品因。上上品但為上上品因。劣為勝因。非勝劣因。非所尚故。非加行得者九品皆得展轉為因。異熟九品者。謂上上品業受上上品異熟。乃至下下品業受下下品異熟。如施設論說。若作殺生罪上上者生無間地獄。上中者生大熱地獄。乃至下下者生傍生鬼趣。乃至廣說。對治九品者。謂下下品明斷上上品無明。乃至上上品明斷下下品無明。

Ru-Yi Translation

One asks: when wrong view cuts off wholesome roots, does it do so in a single grade, or does it do so across nine grades? Suppose either is granted — what fault would follow? If it does so in a single grade, then why does the foregoing state that unwholesome roots are able to cut off wholesome roots, since the word "roots," plural, indicates more than a single one? And how, further, is what is stated afterward to be reconciled — namely, "what is a subtly co-arising wholesome root? It is what is last relinquished at the time wholesome roots are cut off"? And if it does so across nine grades, then how is it to be reconciled with what was earlier stated — that what is first relinquished at the time of departing from the desire realm's defilement is called a predominant unwholesome root? How could a wrong view cut off in but a single grade accomplish a ninefold cutting-off of wholesome roots? And how could a wrong view abandoned in but a single grade be spoken of as "a ninefold abandonment" of wholesome roots? There are those who say: it does so in a single grade. One asks: if so, then why does the foregoing state that unwholesome roots are able to cut off wholesome roots? The answer: the earlier passage ought properly to have stated only that "an unwholesome root" is able to cut off wholesome roots, and ought not to have said "roots," plural; yet, in saying "roots," the intent was to reveal that the unwholesome root of delusion associated with the wrong view that cuts off wholesome roots possesses, in its future arising, many distinct moments, and it is for this reason that the passage speaks as it does. Further, at the moment of the actual cutting-off itself there is no plurality of grades, yet, at the stage of preparatory effort, there exist many distinct grades — the word "roots," used in the passage, broadly indicates both the subduing that occurs at the stage of preparatory effort and the actual cutting-off itself, both alike being called "cutting-off." One asks: how, then, is what is stated afterward to be reconciled — namely, "what is a subtly co-arising wholesome root? It is what is last relinquished at the time wholesome roots are cut off"? The answer: this is stated with reference to the cutting-off of the actual manifest function — that is, when wrong view of the very lowest grade manifests before one, it causes the wholesome roots of the very highest grade to cease from actual operation, and so on, in this way, up through: when wrong view of the middling-superior grade manifests before one, it causes the wholesome roots of the middling-inferior grade to cease from actual operation; and when wrong view of the very highest grade manifests before one, it causes the wholesome roots of the very lowest grade to cease from actual operation, and causes all nine grades to cease being actually possessed as well. Thus the first eight grades of wholesome root first attain non-manifest operation, and only afterward attain non-possession, whereas the ninth grade of wholesome root, at the very moment it attains non-manifest operation, thereby simultaneously attains non-possession, since it attains non-manifest operation only gradually, in sequence. It is on this basis that the latter statement speaks of what is last relinquished at the time wholesome roots are cut off as "a subtly co-arising wholesome root," since it attains non-possession all at one single moment; and it is on this basis that the earlier statement speaks of what is first relinquished at the time of departing from the desire realm's defilement as "a predominant unwholesome root able to cut off wholesome roots" — and it is for this reason that the earlier and the later statements are both fully reconciled. It ought rather to be said: it does so across nine grades. One asks: if so, then how is it to be reconciled with the earlier statement — that what is first relinquished at the time of departing from the desire realm's defilement is called a predominant unwholesome root, and so on, at length? The answer: there exist many kinds of "nine grades" — that is, there are nine grades of manifest operation; there are nine grades of ripened fruit; there are nine grades of antidote; and there are nine grades of the cutting-off of wholesome roots. As for the nine grades of manifest operation: there are times when the very lowest grade manifests, and so on, up through times when the very highest grade manifests — and there are those who explain this in terms of these nine grades serving mutually as cause, in that the very lowest grade serves as the cause for the very highest grade, and so on, up through the middling-superior grade serving as the cause for two grades, with the very highest grade serving as the cause only for the very highest grade itself, since an inferior grade may serve as cause for a superior one, but a superior grade cannot serve as cause for an inferior, this not being fitting; and for one who has not attained it through preparatory effort, all nine grades serve, in turn, as mutual causes for one another. As for the nine grades of ripened fruit: it is that karma of the very highest grade receives a ripened fruit of the very highest grade, and so on, down through that karma of the very lowest grade receiving a ripened fruit of the very lowest grade, exactly as the Prajñaptiśāstra states: if one commits the offense of taking life, the very highest grade of this offense results in rebirth in the uninterrupted hell, the middling-superior grade results in rebirth in the great-heat hell, and so on, down through the very lowest grade resulting in rebirth in the animal realm or the realm of hungry ghosts, and so on, at length. As for the nine grades of antidote: it is that illumination of the very lowest grade cuts off ignorance of the very highest grade, and so on, up through illumination of the very highest grade cutting off ignorance of the very lowest grade.

斷善根九品者。謂下下品邪見斷上上品善根。乃至上上品邪見斷下下品善根。若依斷善九品說者。彼邪見則有九品。若依對治九品說者。彼邪見則唯一品以對治九品故。前說離欲染時最初所捨。以斷善九品故後說斷善根時最後所捨。是故前後二說善通。復次斷法有二種。一如見所斷是故能斷九品邪見。離欲染時一品頓斷。二如修所斷是故所斷九品善根斷善根時九品漸斷。問斷善根者是何義耶。

As for the nine grades of the cutting-off of wholesome roots: it is that wrong view of the very lowest grade cuts off the wholesome root of the very highest grade, and so on, up through wrong view of the very highest grade cutting off the wholesome root of the very lowest grade. If one speaks with reference to the nine grades of the cutting-off of wholesome roots, then this wrong view is of nine grades; if one speaks with reference to the nine grades of the antidote, then this wrong view is but a single grade, since it serves as the antidote to all nine grades at once. The earlier statement, that what is first relinquished at the time of departing from the desire realm's defilement is the predominant unwholesome root, speaks with reference to the nine grades of the cutting-off of wholesome roots; the later statement, that what is last relinquished at the time wholesome roots are cut off is the subtly co-arising wholesome root, likewise speaks with reference to the nine grades of the cutting-off of wholesome roots — and it is for this reason that the earlier and the later statements are both fully reconciled. Further, cutting-off is of two kinds: first, as with what is abandoned by seeing, and it is for this reason that the nine grades of wrong view able to cut off wholesome roots are, at the time of departing from the desire realm's defilement, cut off all at once, in a single grade; second, as with what is abandoned by cultivation, and it is for this reason that the nine grades of wholesome root that are cut off are, at the time wholesome roots are cut off, cut off gradually, grade by grade. One asks: what is the meaning of "cutting off wholesome roots"?

Reading note — Ru-Yi

The fourfold disambiguation of “nine grades” is a masterclass in this treatise's characteristic move when two canonical statements appear to conflict: rather than declaring one wrong, it multiplies the technical vocabulary until each statement turns out to be true of a different, equally legitimate sense of the same numeral, so that the apparent contradiction dissolves not through compromise but through discovering that the two statements were never actually talking about the same thing in the first place.

6. What “Cutting Off” Actually Means, and Where It Can Happen

The treatise clarifies that cutting off wholesome roots is nothing like an axe severing a tree, since wrong view never actually touches what is wholesome — it merely causes the acquisition of non-possession to arise in place of possession — before canvassing five rival positions on this cutting-off's own inherent nature and settling on non-possession itself, before restricting where it can occur: only within the desire realm, only within the human destiny, and only within three of the four continents, since Jambudvīpa's own people act with a keenness that the other continents, and even the northern continent entirely, simply lack.

Chinese Source

答非如世間斧等斷木。邪見與善不相觸故。然相續中邪見現在前時。令諸善根成就得滅不成就得生說名為斷。若相續中無善根得爾時名為善根已斷。問此善根斷自性是何。有作是說。以不信為自性。謂信故善根續。不信故善根斷。有餘師說。以邪見為自性。謂由邪見善根斷故。或有說者。以斷善時諸煩惱纏為自性。謂由彼力善根斷故。復有說者。以一切法為自性。謂斷善根時一切法皆隨順故。譬喻者言。無實自性。謂彼相續先有善根。今時斷滅有何自性。所引現喻如頂中說。評曰應作是說。諸善根斷以不成就為自性。是無覆無記心不相應行蘊所攝。此即說在復有所餘如是類法不相應中。問何界趣處能斷善根。答在欲界。非色無色界。人趣非餘趣。三洲除北洲。尊者瞿沙伐摩說曰。唯贍部洲能斷善根。以此洲人於善惡業所作猛利非餘洲故。問若爾根蘊所說當云何通。如說贍部洲人極多成就十九根。極少成就八根。如贍部洲。東勝身洲西牛貨洲亦爾。答彼文應說東西洲人極多成就十九根極少成就十三根。

Ru-Yi Translation

The answer: it is not like an axe or the like severing a tree in the ordinary world, since wrong view does not actually come into contact with what is wholesome. Rather, when wrong view manifests before one within one's own continuum, it causes the acquisition through which the wholesome roots are possessed to cease, and causes the acquisition through which they are not possessed to arise, and this is called "cutting-off" — when, within one's own continuum, there exists no acquisition of the wholesome roots whatsoever, it is at that time called "the wholesome roots having already been cut off." One asks: what is the own-nature of this cutting-off of the wholesome roots? There are those who say: it takes non-faith as its own nature — that is, through faith, the wholesome roots continue; through non-faith, the wholesome roots are cut off. There are other masters who say: it takes wrong view as its own nature, since it is through wrong view that the wholesome roots are cut off. There are others who say: it takes the afflictive entanglements present at the time of cutting off wholesome roots as its own nature, since it is through their power that the wholesome roots are cut off. There are yet others who say: it takes all dharmas as its own nature, since, at the time wholesome roots are cut off, all dharmas accord with and follow this same process. The Dārṣṭāntikas say: it possesses no real inherent nature at all — that is, within that continuum, there formerly existed wholesome roots, and now they have simply ceased and been extinguished — what inherent nature could there possibly be? The example they adduce is discussed as in the chapter on the summit. The verdict: it ought to be said that the cutting-off of wholesome roots takes non-possession as its own nature, and is subsumed within the aggregate of formations dissociated from mind, of the non-obstructive indeterminate class — this is stated as belonging among the further such dharmas dissociated from mind mentioned there. One asks: in which realm, destiny, and place can wholesome roots be cut off? The answer: within the desire realm, not within the form or formless realms; within the human destiny, not within any other destiny; within the three continents, excepting the northern continent. The Venerable Ghoṣavarman states as follows: it is only in Jambudvīpa that wholesome roots can be cut off, since the people of this continent act with a keenness of intention, in both wholesome and unwholesome karma, that surpasses the other continents. One asks: if so, then how is what the Indriya Nyāsa states to be reconciled? As it is stated: at most, the people of Jambudvīpa possess nineteen faculties; at least, they possess eight faculties — and, just as with Jambudvīpa, so too with Pūrvavideha and Aparagodānīya. The answer: that passage ought properly to state that the people of the eastern and western continents possess, at most, nineteen faculties, and, at least, thirteen faculties,

而不作是說者應知是誦者錯謬。評曰彼不應作是說。一切所誦皆無異故。三洲所作皆猛利故應知前說於理為善。問何等補特伽羅能斷善根。答唯見行者能斷善根。非愛行者。以見行者意樂堅固於善惡業所作猛利。愛行輕動於染淨品俱不猛故。於見行中男子女人俱能斷善。尊者瞿沙伐摩說曰。唯男子能斷善根以志性強故。如施設論說。男子造業勝非女人。男子練根勝非女人。男子意樂勝非女人。

and that it does not so state should be understood as an error on the part of the reciter. The verdict: that position ought not to be maintained, since everything recited is alike without variance, and since the actions performed in all three continents are alike keen and sharp — it should therefore be understood that the earlier statement accords with correct principle. One asks: what kind of person is capable of cutting off wholesome roots? The answer: it is only one of the view-type who is capable of cutting off wholesome roots, not one of the craving-type, since one of the view-type possesses a firm and resolute intention, acting with keenness in both wholesome and unwholesome karma, whereas one of the craving-type is fickle and unsteady, being keen in neither the defiled nor the pure. Among those of the view-type, both men and women alike are capable of cutting off wholesome roots. The Venerable Ghoṣavarman states as follows: only men are capable of cutting off wholesome roots, since their disposition is stronger, exactly as the Prajñaptiśāstra states: men perform karma more powerfully than women; men refine their faculties more powerfully than women; men's intentions are more powerful than women's —

Reading note — Ru-Yi

That cutting off wholesome roots is defined purely negatively, as an acquisition of non-possession rather than any positive act of severing, is a quietly important piece of Sarvāstivāda ontology: it means the wholesome roots themselves are never actually destroyed or attacked by wrong view — they simply cease to be possessed, a distinction that will matter enormously later when the treatise explains how they can be reconnected without ever needing to be recreated from nothing.

7. Who Is Capable of This: Faculties, Sex, and Disposition

The treatise works through which kinds of person are actually capable of cutting off their own wholesome roots: only those of the view-type, whose intention is firm and resolute, never those of the craving-type, whose fickleness prevents keenness in either direction; both men and women alike, against the Venerable Ghoṣavarman's claim that only men possess the requisite strength of disposition, a claim the treatise's own verdict rejects, citing the brahmin woman Cañcā's slander of the Buddha as proof that women's actions can be every bit as keen as men's.

Chinese Source

故知女人不能斷善。問若爾根蘊所說復云何通。如說若成就女根定成就八根男根亦爾。答彼文應說若成就女根定成就十三根。若成就男根定成就八根。而不作是說者應知是誦者錯謬。評曰彼不應作是說一切所誦皆無異故。男女所作皆猛利故。如栴酌迦婆羅門女惡心謗佛過諸丈夫。然施設論。說男勝者依多分說非謂一切。由此應知前說為善。問扇搋半擇迦無形二形能斷善不。答不能。所以者何。

Ru-Yi Translation

and it is therefore known that women are not capable of cutting off wholesome roots. One asks: if so, then how is what the Indriya Nyāsa states to be reconciled? As it is stated: if one possesses the female faculty, one certainly possesses eight faculties, and the same holds for the male faculty. The answer: that passage ought properly to state that if one possesses the female faculty, one certainly possesses thirteen faculties, and if one possesses the male faculty, one certainly possesses eight faculties, and that it does not so state should be understood as an error on the part of the reciter. The verdict: that position ought not to be maintained, since everything recited is alike without variance, and since the actions performed by men and women alike are keen and sharp — exactly as the brahmin woman Cañcā, with a malicious mind, slandered the Buddha in a manner surpassing that of any man. As for the Prajñaptiśāstra's statement that men are superior, this is said with reference to the majority of cases, not to every case without exception, and it is on this basis that it should be understood that the earlier statement is to be preferred. One asks: are eunuchs, hermaphrodites, and those of no determinate sex or of both sexes together capable of cutting off wholesome roots? The answer: they are not. Why is this so?

前說意樂堅固所作猛利者能斷善根。彼扇搋等意樂輕動所作劣故。

It was already stated above that it is one whose intention is firm and resolute, and who acts with keenness, who is capable of cutting off wholesome roots; eunuchs and the like are fickle and unsteady in their intention, and their actions are correspondingly weak.

復次見行者能斷善根彼是愛行故。復次多瞋者能斷善根彼多貪故。

Further, it is one of the view-type who is capable of cutting off wholesome roots, and such persons belong to the craving-type. Further, it is one predominantly given to hatred who is capable of cutting off wholesome roots, whereas such persons are predominantly given to craving.

Reading note — Ru-Yi

The treatise's explicit rejection of Ghoṣavarman's gendered restriction, grounding its counter-argument in a specific, named woman's own historically remembered act, is a notable moment of this literature pushing back against a plausible-sounding but ultimately unsubstantiated claim about capacity — keenness of intention, the treatise insists, is a matter of disposition and type, not sex, and it marshals concrete evidence rather than mere assertion to make the point.

8. Which Wholesome Roots Are Severed: The Desire Realm and Beyond

A subtle question follows: since wholesome roots belonging to the form and formless realms are never even possessed by most who cut off their wholesome roots in the desire realm, how can canonical texts speak of “cutting off the wholesome roots of all three realms”? The treatise answers through several complementary images — becoming further removed from what was never possessed counts as a kind of cutting-off in its own right, and, since the higher realms' wholesome roots depend on the desire realm's own for their growth and nourishment, severing the root in the desire realm withers what depended on it even in realms never actually reached.

Chinese Source

問斷何等善根。唯欲界耶通三界耶。設爾何失。若唯斷欲界者。識身論說當云何通。如說若害蟻卵無少悔心應說是人斷三界善。若通斷三界者彼上界善。先不成就今云何斷。答應說唯斷欲界善根。問若爾識身論說當云何通。答彼文應說若害蟻卵無少悔心。應說彼斷三界中善。而不作是說者欲令三數滿故。謂先成就欲界善根。上界善根已不成就。今時復斷欲界善根則三界善根皆不成就。由斷善位三數乃滿故說彼人斷三界善。有說通斷三界善根。問彼上界善根先不成就今云何斷。答於不成就中更不成就以轉遠故說名為斷。復次上界善根依欲界善生長滋茂。若欲界善斷彼則乾枯故說斷彼。復次欲界善根與上界善為門為加行為足依處。若欲界善斷彼無門等亦說為斷。復次若當欲界善根不斷彼上界善容有生長積集之義。今欲界善斷故彼善無容生長積集故說為斷。由此尊者妙音說曰。若不斷欲界善根則色無色善根可得生長。由此斷故彼更不生亦說為斷。問何故但說殺害蟻卵心無有悔不說餘耶。答彼全無過無所用故。謂諸蟻卵於人無過亦無所用而故殺害尚無悔心。況復有過有所用者。故知彼類已斷善根是以偏說。問為斷加行善根。為斷生得善根。答應說唯斷生得善根。所以者何。加行善根先已捨故。有作是說。亦斷加行善根。問彼先已不成就如何名今斷。答於不成就中更不成就。以轉遠故說名為斷。如是等有多義如三界中廣說。此中復有一不共義謂加行善根以生得善為因緣為根本。為等起。故此斷時亦說斷彼。

Ru-Yi Translation

One asks: which wholesome roots are cut off — only those of the desire realm, or those pervading all three realms? Suppose either is granted — what fault would follow? If only those of the desire realm are cut off, then how is what the Vijñānakāya states to be reconciled? As it is stated: if one, killing an ant's egg, feels not the slightest regret, it should be said that this person has cut off the wholesome roots of all three realms. And if the wholesome roots pervading all three realms are cut off, then how could the wholesome roots of the higher realms, not previously possessed at all, now be cut off? The answer: it ought to be said that only the wholesome roots of the desire realm are cut off. One asks: if so, then how is what the Vijñānakāya states to be reconciled? The answer: that passage ought properly to state that, if one, killing an ant's egg, feels not the slightest regret, it should be said that this person has cut off the wholesome roots subsumed within the three realms; and that it does not so state is in order to make the number "three" complete — that is, one has previously possessed the wholesome roots of the desire realm, while the wholesome roots of the higher realms are already not possessed; now, cutting off the wholesome roots of the desire realm as well, the wholesome roots of all three realms alike become unpossessed, and it is only through the stage of cutting off wholesome roots that this number "three" is thereby completed — and it is on this account that this person is spoken of as having cut off the wholesome roots of the three realms. There are those who say: the wholesome roots pervading the three realms are indeed cut off. One asks: how, then, could the wholesome roots of the higher realms, not previously possessed, now be cut off? The answer: within what is already not possessed, one becomes yet further removed from possessing it, and it is on account of this further removal that this, too, is called "cutting-off." Further, the wholesome roots of the higher realms grow and flourish in dependence on the wholesome roots of the desire realm; if the wholesome roots of the desire realm are cut off, those of the higher realms thereby wither, and it is for this reason that they, too, are said to be cut off. Further, the wholesome roots of the desire realm serve as the gateway, the preparatory basis, and the very foothold and support for the wholesome roots of the higher realms; if the wholesome roots of the desire realm are cut off, then the higher realms' wholesome roots are thereby left without any such gateway, and are likewise said to be cut off. Further, were the wholesome roots of the desire realm not cut off, the wholesome roots of the higher realms could still possibly grow and accumulate further; now that the wholesome roots of the desire realm are cut off, the wholesome roots of the higher realms have no possibility of further growth and accumulation, and it is for this reason that they, too, are said to be cut off. It is on this basis that the Venerable Ghoṣa has stated: were the wholesome roots of the desire realm not cut off, the wholesome roots of the form and formless realms could still be obtained through growth; it is on account of this cutting-off that they can no longer arise, and it is for this reason that they, too, are said to be cut off. One asks: why does this passage speak only of killing an ant's egg with a mind free of any regret, and not of some other case? The answer: an ant's egg is entirely without fault and without any use to a person, and yet one kills it without the slightest regret — how much more, then, would this hold for something that does possess fault or use? And it is thereby known that such a person has already cut off his wholesome roots, and it is for this reason that this passage speaks of this case in particular. One asks: is it the wholesome roots gained through preparatory effort that are cut off, or the wholesome roots innately obtained at birth? The answer: it ought to be said that only the wholesome roots innately obtained at birth are cut off, since the wholesome roots gained through preparatory effort have already, previously, been relinquished. There are those who say: the wholesome roots gained through preparatory effort are cut off as well. One asks: if these are already not possessed, how can they now be said to be "cut off"? The answer: within what is already not possessed, one becomes yet further removed from possessing it, and it is on account of this further removal that this, too, is called "cutting-off" — such matters as these possess many different senses, exactly as broadly explained in the discussion of the three realms above. Here, there exists a further sense not shared with the other case — namely, that the wholesome roots gained through preparatory effort take the wholesome roots innately obtained at birth as their cause and condition, their fundamental basis, and their co-arising ground, and it is for this reason that, when the latter are cut off, the former, too, are said to be cut off.

Reading note — Ru-Yi

The image of higher-realm wholesome roots “withering” once their desire-realm foundation is cut, even though those higher roots were never actually possessed to begin with, is a genuinely elegant piece of conceptual bookkeeping: it lets the treatise honor the sūtra's own language of “cutting off all three realms” without requiring that anything actually possessed in those higher realms be destroyed — the damage is entirely to future possibility, not to any present holding.

9. Contaminated or Uncontaminated Object? Denying Cause or Denying Fruit?

The treatise works through a careful sequence of technical refinements to the wrong view capable of severing wholesome roots — whether it must take a contaminated object, a conditioned object, or an object of the very same realm and stage as itself — before settling each time on the more expansive reading, and closing with a genuinely elegant distinction between wrong view that denies a cause, which behaves like the uninterrupted path, and wrong view that denies a fruit, which behaves like the path of liberation that immediately follows it.

Chinese Source

問為但有漏緣邪見能斷善根。為亦無漏緣耶。有作是說。唯有漏緣邪見能斷善根。所以者何。具二種縛勢力強故。評曰應作是說。無漏緣邪見亦能斷善根。彼雖無所緣縛。而因力長養亦增盛故。問為但有為緣邪見能斷善根。為亦無為緣耶。有作是說。唯有為緣邪見能斷善根。義如前說。評曰應作是說無為緣邪見亦能斷善根。義如前說問為但同分界地緣邪見能斷善根。為亦不同分界地緣耶。有作是說。唯同分界地緣邪見能斷善根。義如前說。評曰應作是說不同分界地緣邪見亦能斷善根。義如前說。問同分界地緣中。為謗因邪見能斷善根。為謗果耶。有作是說唯謗因邪見能斷善根。如說若害蟻卵無少悔心。應說是人斷三界善。有餘師說。唯謗果邪見能斷善根。如說。若決定執無善無惡業果異熟。應說是人斷三界善。評曰應說謗因謗果邪見俱能斷善。謗因邪見如無間道。謗果邪見如解脫道。謗因者與善根成就得俱滅。謗果者與善根不成就得俱生。是故此二俱能斷善。問斷九品善根時。為不起斷為數起耶。有作是說。

Ru-Yi Translation

One asks: is it only wrong view taking a contaminated dharma as its object that is capable of cutting off wholesome roots, or is wrong view taking an uncontaminated dharma as its object capable of this as well? There are those who say: it is only wrong view taking a contaminated dharma as its object that is capable of cutting off wholesome roots, since it possesses the power of a twofold bondage. The verdict: it ought to be said that wrong view taking an uncontaminated dharma as its object is likewise capable of cutting off wholesome roots, since, although it possesses no bondage through its object, it nonetheless grows and flourishes in strength through the power of its cause. One asks: is it only wrong view taking a conditioned dharma as its object that is capable of cutting off wholesome roots, or is wrong view taking an unconditioned dharma as its object capable of this as well? There are those who say: it is only wrong view taking a conditioned dharma as its object that is capable of cutting off wholesome roots, the reasoning being as stated above. The verdict: it ought to be said that wrong view taking an unconditioned dharma as its object is likewise capable of cutting off wholesome roots, the reasoning being as stated above. One asks: is it only wrong view taking as its object something of the same class, realm, and stage that is capable of cutting off wholesome roots, or is wrong view taking as its object something of a different class, realm, and stage capable of this as well? There are those who say: it is only wrong view taking as its object something of the same class, realm, and stage that is capable of cutting off wholesome roots, the reasoning being as stated above. The verdict: it ought to be said that wrong view taking as its object something of a different class, realm, and stage is likewise capable of cutting off wholesome roots, the reasoning being as stated above. One asks: among wrong view taking as its object something of the same class, realm, and stage, is it wrong view that denies the cause that is capable of cutting off wholesome roots, or is it wrong view that denies the fruit? There are those who say: it is only wrong view that denies the cause that is capable of cutting off wholesome roots, exactly as stated: if one, killing an ant's egg, feels not the slightest regret, it should be said that this person has cut off the wholesome roots of the three realms. There are other masters who say: it is only wrong view that denies the fruit that is capable of cutting off wholesome roots, exactly as stated: if one is fixedly convinced that there exists no wholesome or unwholesome karma, and no ripened fruit of karma at all, it should be said that this person has cut off the wholesome roots of the three realms. The verdict: it ought to be said that wrong view denying the cause and wrong view denying the fruit are both alike capable of cutting off wholesome roots — wrong view denying the cause is like the uninterrupted path, and wrong view denying the fruit is like the path of liberation; wrong view denying the cause arises together with the cessation of the acquisition through which wholesome roots are possessed, while wrong view denying the fruit arises together with the acquisition through which they are not possessed, and it is for this reason that both of these alike are capable of cutting off wholesome roots. One asks: at the moment the nine grades of wholesome root are cut off, does this occur without any interruption in the arising of the cutting mind, or does it occur through the repeated arising of that mind? There are those who say:

Reading note — Ru-Yi

Mapping the cause-denying and fruit-denying forms of wrong view onto the uninterrupted path and its following path of liberation is a striking piece of structural borrowing: it takes the treatise's own well-established two-stage model for how liberation actually happens — first severing, then confirming the severance — and applies the identical architecture to describe how bondage, in this darker mirror image, happens instead.

10. Interrupted or Continuous? And What Happens to Formal Restraint?

The treatise asks whether the nine grades of wholesome root are severed through one continuous, uninterrupted mental act or through the mind's own repeated arising — settling, characteristically, on “it is not fixed,” since some practitioners cut straight through all nine without pause while others stop partway and resume later. A parallel question about formal monastic restraint receives the identical non-committal answer: restraint is relinquished exactly when its corresponding state of mind is relinquished, neither strictly before nor after the wholesome roots themselves fall.

Chinese Source

不起斷如見道。有餘師說。數起斷如修道評曰應說不定。或有不起而能相續斷九品盡。或有唯斷一品便起。或二或三乃至或八。然後方起復斷後品。問住律儀者斷善根時。為先捨律儀然後斷善。為斷時捨耶。有作是說。先捨律儀然後斷善。謂彼身中先起一類邪見捨律儀。後起一類邪見斷諸善根。如猛風吹樹先摧枝葉然後拔根。彼亦如是。評曰應說不定。所以者何。隨彼彼類心起彼彼律儀。彼心捨時彼律儀隨捨。

Ru-Yi Translation

it occurs without interruption, exactly as with the path of seeing. There are other masters who say: it occurs through repeated arising, exactly as with the path of cultivation. The verdict: it ought to be said that this is not fixed — there are cases where, without interruption, one is able to continue cutting until all nine grades are exhausted; and there are cases where only a single grade is cut off before the mind arises again, or two, or three, up through as many as eight, and only afterward does the mind arise once more to cut off the remaining grade. One asks: for one who abides in formal restraint, at the time his wholesome roots are cut off, does he first relinquish the restraint and only afterward cut off the wholesome roots, or does he relinquish the restraint at the very moment of cutting them off? There are those who say: he first relinquishes the restraint, and only afterward cuts off the wholesome roots — that is, within his own continuum, a certain kind of wrong view first arises and relinquishes the restraint, and a certain kind of wrong view afterward arises and cuts off the wholesome roots, exactly as a fierce wind, blowing against a tree, first strips away its branches and leaves, and only afterward uproots it entirely — so too is it here. The verdict: it ought to be said that this is not fixed. Why is this so? In accordance with whichever kind of mind arises, that corresponding kind of restraint is thereby present; the moment that mind is relinquished, that restraint is correspondingly relinquished as well.

Reading note — Ru-Yi

The treatise's repeated willingness to answer “this is not fixed” rather than forcing a single determinate mechanism onto every case is worth noticing as a pattern in its own right: for all its reputation as an exhaustively systematizing literature, it consistently resists over-specifying processes that, in its own honest assessment, simply do vary from one practitioner's continuum to the next.

11. Reconnecting Wholesome Roots: All at Once, Yet Gradually Manifest

The treatise addresses whether severed wholesome roots, once reconnected, return all at once across all nine grades or gradually, offering a vivid image of recovery from illness — the sickness itself vanishes in a single moment, yet one's strength returns only by degrees thereafter — before working through, in careful detail, exactly when and how reconnection happens: at the moment of rebirth in hell, or only at the moment of death there, depending on whether the wrong view's own ripened fruit has already been received, and, remarkably, that reconnection is even possible within this very life given the right compassionate intervention.

Chinese Source

問續善根時為九品頓續。為一一品漸續耶。有作是說。一一品漸續。有餘師說。若應從地獄中。死當生地獄者能續三品。若應從地獄中死當生傍生鬼趣者能續六品。若應從地獄中死當生人天趣者能續九品評曰應作是說。九品頓續。漸次現前。如病差者一時病除後漸生力。然彼應從地獄中死當生地獄者。三品善根得亦在身成就亦現前。六品善根得而不在身成就不現前。當生傍生鬼趣者。六品善根得亦在身成就亦現前。三品善根得而不在身成就不現前。當生人天趣者。九品善根得。亦在身成就亦現前。問善根為斷者多為續者多耶。答隨爾所斷還爾所續。謂斷欲界欲界續。斷生得生得續。斷九品九品續。問斷善根已於現法中還能續不。答且依施設論說彼於現法中不能續善。決定於地獄中生時或死時方能續善如彼論說。若害蟻卵無少悔心應說是人斷三界善。彼於現法不能續善根。定於地獄中生時或死時方能續善。問誰於地獄生時能續善根。誰於地獄死時能續善根耶。答若於地獄中有中未受斷善根邪見異熟果者。彼於地獄生時能續。若於地獄中有中即受彼邪見異熟果者。乃至地獄死時彼果盡故能續善根。所以者何。如邪見與善根相妨彼果亦爾。復次若由因力斷善根者地獄死時方續。若由緣力斷善根者地獄生時能續。復次若由自力斷善根者。死時方續。若由他力斷善根者生時能續復次若由自性力斷者死時方續。若由資糧力斷者生時能續。復次若見戒俱壞而斷者死時方續若見壞戒不壞而斷者生時能續。復次若意樂加行俱壞而斷者死時方續。若意樂壞加行不壞而斷者生時能續。復次若常見為加行而斷者死時方續若斷見為加行而斷者生時能續。尊者妙音說曰。彼斷善者或有地獄生時。見不善業異熟果相現在前。便作是念。我先自作如是惡業今當受此不如意果。起此信時名為續善。或有生地獄已即受苦異熟果作如是念。我先自作如是惡業今還自受如是苦果。起此信時名為續善。復次若依理說斷善根者於現法中亦有能續。謂彼若遇多聞善友具戒辯才言詞威肅。能為說法引發其心。告言汝於因果正理應生信解勿起邪謗。如於我所以淳淨心恭敬供養。於餘尊重同梵行邊亦應如是。由此令汝長夜獲安。

Ru-Yi Translation

One asks: at the time wholesome roots are reconnected, does this occur all at once across the nine grades, or does it occur gradually, grade by grade? There are those who say: it occurs gradually, grade by grade. There are other masters who say: if one is to die out of the hells and be reborn once more in the hells, one is able to reconnect three grades; if one is to die out of the hells and be reborn in the animal realm or the realm of hungry ghosts, one is able to reconnect six grades; if one is to die out of the hells and be reborn among humans or gods, one is able to reconnect all nine grades. The verdict: it ought to be said that all nine grades are reconnected all at once, yet manifest gradually before one — just as one recovering from illness has his sickness entirely removed at a single moment, yet his strength returns only gradually thereafter. Yet, for one who is to die out of the hells and be reborn once more in the hells, the acquisition of three grades of wholesome root is both present within his body and possessed, and also manifest before him, while the acquisition of the remaining six grades, though present, is neither possessed nor manifest before him; for one who is to die out of the hells and be reborn in the animal realm or the realm of hungry ghosts, the acquisition of six grades of wholesome root is both present within his body and possessed, and also manifest before him, while the acquisition of the remaining three grades, though present, is neither possessed nor manifest before him; for one who is to die out of the hells and be reborn among humans or gods, the acquisition of all nine grades of wholesome root is both present within his body and possessed, and also manifest before him. One asks: are wholesome roots more often cut off, or more often reconnected? The answer: however many are cut off, that same number are reconnected — that is, if the desire realm's own wholesome roots are cut off, it is the desire realm's own wholesome roots that are reconnected; if wholesome roots innately obtained at birth are cut off, it is wholesome roots innately obtained at birth that are reconnected; if all nine grades are cut off, all nine grades are reconnected. One asks: once wholesome roots have been cut off, is one still able, within this very life, to reconnect them? The answer: with reference to what the Prajñaptiśāstra states, one is, within this very life, unable to reconnect one's wholesome roots — it is decisively only at the moment of being reborn within the hells, or at the moment of dying there, that one is then able to reconnect them, exactly as that treatise states: if one, killing an ant's egg, feels not the slightest regret, it should be said that this person has cut off the wholesome roots of the three realms, and that such a person is, within this very life, unable to reconnect his wholesome roots, being decisively able to reconnect them only at the moment of being reborn within the hells, or at the moment of dying there. One asks: who is it that reconnects his wholesome roots at the moment of being reborn within the hells, and who is it that reconnects his wholesome roots at the moment of dying there? The answer: if, within the intermediate state prior to hell, one has not yet received the ripened fruit of the wrong view that cut off one's wholesome roots, one reconnects them at the moment of being reborn within the hells; if, within the intermediate state prior to hell, one has already received the ripened fruit of that wrong view, then it is only at the moment of dying within the hells, once that fruit is exhausted, that one is able to reconnect one's wholesome roots. Why is this so? Just as wrong view stands in opposition to wholesome roots, so too does its ripened fruit. Further, if wholesome roots were cut off through the power of a cause, one reconnects them only at the moment of dying within the hells; if they were cut off through the power of a condition, one is able to reconnect them at the moment of being reborn within the hells. Further, if wholesome roots were cut off through one's own power, one reconnects them only at the moment of dying; if they were cut off through another's power, one is able to reconnect them at the moment of being reborn. Further, if they were cut off through the power of one's own inherent nature, one reconnects them only at the moment of dying; if they were cut off through the power of accumulated provisions, one is able to reconnect them at the moment of being reborn. Further, if one's cutting-off occurred through the ruin of both view and precepts together, one reconnects only at the moment of dying; if one's view alone was ruined while one's precepts remained intact, one is able to reconnect at the moment of being reborn. Further, if one's cutting-off occurred through the ruin of both intention and preparatory effort together, one reconnects only at the moment of dying; if one's intention alone was ruined while one's preparatory effort remained intact, one is able to reconnect at the moment of being reborn. Further, if one's cutting-off occurred through taking the view of eternalism as one's preparatory basis, one reconnects only at the moment of dying; if it occurred through taking the view of annihilationism as one's preparatory basis, one is able to reconnect at the moment of being reborn. The Venerable Ghoṣa states as follows: for one who has cut off his wholesome roots, there are cases in which, at the moment of being reborn within the hells, the ripened fruit of an unwholesome karma manifests before him, and he then thinks: I myself formerly committed such an evil deed as this, and must now undergo this undesired fruit — and, at the moment this conviction arises, this is called reconnecting one's wholesome roots. There are also cases in which, having already been born within the hells, one directly undergoes the ripened fruit of suffering, and thinks: I myself formerly committed such an evil deed as this, and am now myself undergoing this very fruit of suffering — and, at the moment this conviction arises, this, too, is called reconnecting one's wholesome roots. Further, if one speaks with reference to correct principle, one who has cut off his wholesome roots is, in fact, able to reconnect them within this very life as well — that is, should he encounter a learned and wholesome friend, complete in precepts, eloquence, and dignified speech, capable of expounding the Dharma for him and drawing forth his own mind, telling him: with respect to the correct principle of cause and effect, you ought to give rise to faith and understanding, and not give rise to any wrongful slander — just as, toward myself, you ought to serve and revere me with a pure and sincere mind, so too ought you to do toward my other reverend fellow practitioners of the pure conduct — through this you shall obtain security throughout the long night to come —

彼聞其言歡喜領受。當知即是已續善根。是故善根有現法續。有轉身續。問誰現法續。誰轉身續耶。答若斷善根不造無間業者現法能續。若斷善根亦造無間業者轉身乃續。復次若由緣力斷善根者現法能續。若由因力斷善根者轉身乃續。復次若由他力斷者現法能續。

and, hearing these words, he rejoices and receives them with faith — one should know that this is itself already a reconnecting of his wholesome roots. It is for this reason that wholesome roots admit of reconnection within this very life, and also of reconnection only after transmigrating into a new body. One asks: who reconnects within this very life, and who reconnects only after transmigrating into a new body? The answer: if one who has cut off his wholesome roots has not also committed any offense of uninterrupted retribution, he is able to reconnect them within this very life; if one who has cut off his wholesome roots has also committed an offense of uninterrupted retribution, he reconnects them only after transmigrating into a new body. Further, if wholesome roots were cut off through the power of a condition, one is able to reconnect them within this very life; if they were cut off through the power of a cause, one reconnects them only after transmigrating into a new body. Further, if one's cutting-off occurred through another's power, one is able to reconnect within this very life;

若由自力斷者轉身乃續。復次若由資糧力斷者現法能續。若由自性力斷者轉身乃續。復次若見壞戒不壞而斷者現法能續。若見戒俱壞而斷者轉身乃續。復次若意樂壞加行不壞而斷者現法能續。若意樂加行俱壞而斷者轉身乃續。問若現法中亦能續者。前施設論當云何通。答彼說現法不能續者。即是所說有斷善根亦造無間。或由因力斷善根等。問若現法中續善根者。彼命終已生地獄耶。答彼不決定。生於地獄唯有轉身續善根者定生地獄。問住何等心能續善根。

if it occurred through one's own power, one reconnects only after transmigrating into a new body. Further, if one's cutting-off occurred through the power of accumulated provisions, one is able to reconnect within this very life; if it occurred through the power of one's own inherent nature, one reconnects only after transmigrating into a new body. Further, if one's view alone was ruined while one's precepts remained intact, one is able to reconnect within this very life; if both view and precepts were ruined together, one reconnects only after transmigrating into a new body. Further, if one's intention alone was ruined while one's preparatory effort remained intact, one is able to reconnect within this very life; if both intention and preparatory effort were ruined together, one reconnects only after transmigrating into a new body. One asks: if reconnection within this very life is indeed possible, then how is what the earlier-cited Prajñaptiśāstra states to be reconciled? The answer: what that treatise states — that one is unable to reconnect within this very life — refers precisely to the case already described, namely, one who has cut off his wholesome roots and has also committed an offense of uninterrupted retribution, or one whose wholesome roots were cut off through the power of a cause, and the like. One asks: for one who reconnects his wholesome roots within this very life, does he, once his life ends, necessarily proceed to rebirth in the hells? The answer: this is not fixed — it is only one who reconnects his wholesome roots after transmigrating into a new body who is certain to be reborn within the hells. One asks: abiding in what state of mind is one able to reconnect his wholesome roots?

Reading note — Ru-Yi

The sickness-and-recovery simile does careful double duty here: it explains both why reconnection can be total yet not immediately apparent, and it implicitly reframes cutting off one's wholesome roots itself as something closer to an illness than an identity — a temporary, reversible pathology of the mind rather than a permanent verdict on the person, which is precisely what makes the elaborate machinery of reconnection coherent in the first place.

12. The State of Mind That Reconnects, and Whether the Path Remains Open

The treatise identifies exactly which state of mind is capable of reconnecting severed wholesome roots — doubt about cause and effect, or renewed correct view — before confronting the hardest question of all: can someone who has cut off his own wholesome roots and later reconnected them, within this very life, still enter the noble path itself? The verdict is unambiguous and hopeful: yes, he can give rise to the aids to penetration, enter correct and determined progress, and even attain the fruit of arhatship, exactly as happened for the brahmin Udraka and others, taught and reconnected by the Venerable Śāriputra himself.

Chinese Source

答或住疑心。或住正見。謂於因果。有時生疑此或應有。或生正見此決定有。爾時善根得還續起。善得起故名續善根。問誰住疑心續。誰住正見續耶。有作是說。轉身續者住疑心續。現法續者住正見續。評曰應作是說。此不決定。問善根若續便能起耶。有作是說。現法續者能起現前。轉身續者但是成就。評曰應作是說。此不決定。問若現法中續善根者。彼現身能入正性離生不。有說。不能。以彼邪見壞相續故。善根羸劣尚不能生順決擇分。何況能入正性離生。有說。彼雖現不能入正性離生而能引起順決擇分。評曰應作是說。彼能引起順決擇分。亦復能入正性離生。乃至能得阿羅漢果。如嗢羯吒婆羅門等斷善根已。尊者舍利子為其說法令續善根漸得見諦乃至究竟。如毘奈耶中廣說。問殺斷善人與害蟻卵何者罪重。答且依施設論說。若住等纏其罪正等所受異熟無差別故。若纏不等罪隨有異。有作是說。害蟻卵重非斷善人。所以者何。蟻卵成就諸善根故。復有說者。殺斷善人得罪為重。所以者何。人是善趣害之重故。評曰應作是說。若依罰罪殺斷善人得罪為重得邊罪故。

Ru-Yi Translation

The answer: it may be while abiding in a state of doubt, or while abiding in correct view — that is, with respect to cause and effect, at times one gives rise to doubt, thinking, perhaps this does indeed exist; or one gives rise to correct view, thinking, this does most certainly exist — at that very moment, the acquisition of wholesome roots is regained and reconnection begins; and, since a wholesome acquisition thereby arises, this is called reconnecting one's wholesome roots. One asks: who reconnects while abiding in doubt, and who reconnects while abiding in correct view? There are those who say: one who reconnects after transmigrating into a new body does so while abiding in doubt, while one who reconnects within this very life does so while abiding in correct view. The verdict: it ought to be said that this is not fixed. One asks: once wholesome roots are reconnected, are they thereby immediately able to arise and manifest? There are those who say: one who reconnects within this very life is able to give rise to their manifest operation; one who reconnects after transmigrating into a new body merely comes to possess them. The verdict: it ought to be said that this is not fixed. One asks: for one who reconnects his wholesome roots within this very life, is that same body of his, in this very life, able to enter correct and determined progress toward realization? There are those who say: it is not able to, since his continuum has been ruined by wrong view, his wholesome roots left so weak and feeble that he cannot even give rise to the aids to penetration, much less enter correct and determined progress. There are others who say: although that body of his is, in this present state, unable to enter correct and determined progress, it is nonetheless able to give rise to the aids to penetration. The verdict: it ought to be said that he is indeed able to give rise to the aids to penetration, and is moreover able to enter correct and determined progress, and can, in time, even attain the fruit of arhatship — exactly as with the brahmin Udraka and others, who, having cut off their wholesome roots, were afterward taught the Dharma by the Venerable Śāriputra, causing them to reconnect their wholesome roots and gradually attain the vision of the truth, up through its ultimate completion, exactly as broadly explained within the Vinaya. One asks: which carries the graver offense — killing one who has cut off his wholesome roots, or killing an ant's egg? The answer: with reference to what the Prajñaptiśāstra states, if the accompanying afflictive entanglement is equal in each case, the offense is correspondingly equal, since the ripened fruit received is no different; if the entanglement is unequal, the offense correspondingly varies. There are those who say: killing an ant's egg is the graver offense, not killing one who has cut off his wholesome roots, since an ant's egg still possesses its wholesome roots intact. There are others who say: killing one who has cut off his wholesome roots incurs the graver offense, since a human being belongs to a wholesome destiny, and harming him is therefore graver. The verdict: it ought to be said that, with reference to the assessment of formal culpability, killing one who has cut off his wholesome roots incurs the graver offense, since it constitutes an offense at the very margin of what formal culpability can reach;

Reading note — Ru-Yi

That even the gravest fall this treatise recognizes — severing one's own wholesome roots entirely — is explicitly not treated as a permanent disqualification from the path itself is a genuinely significant piece of soteriological optimism: the elaborate technical machinery built across this entire fascicle, distinguishing every mode and mechanism of cutting-off, exists ultimately in service of showing precisely how such a person can still find his way, through Śāriputra's own compassionate teaching, all the way back to arhatship.

13. Killing an Ant's Egg or a Man Without Wholesome Roots: Which Is Worse?

The fascicle closes by asking which carries the graver offense — killing an ant's egg, or killing a human being who has already cut off every one of his own wholesome roots — arriving at a genuinely nuanced verdict: judged by formal culpability, killing the person is worse, since it constitutes an offense at the very outermost margin the law can reach, but judged by the actual karmic path itself, killing the ant's egg is worse, since the egg, unlike the ruined person, still possesses every one of its own wholesome dharmas fully intact.

Chinese Source

若依業道害蟻卵重以彼成就諸善法故。問諸斷善根者彼皆是邪性定聚耶。有作是說諸斷善根者彼皆是邪性定聚。或有是邪性定聚而非斷善根。如未生怨王等。彼造無間業不斷善根故。評曰應作是說。

Ru-Yi Translation

with reference to the karmic path itself, killing an ant's egg is graver, since it still possesses every one of its wholesome dharmas intact. One asks: are all those who have cut off their wholesome roots thereby fixed within the class of the wrongly determined? There are those who say: all those who have cut off their wholesome roots do indeed belong to the class of the wrongly determined; and there are those who belong to the class of the wrongly determined yet have not cut off their wholesome roots — as with King Ajātaśatru and the like, who committed an offense of uninterrupted retribution without having cut off their wholesome roots. The verdict: it ought to be said that

此有四句有斷善根非邪性定聚。如布刺拏等六師是也。彼斷善根不造無間業故。有是邪性定聚非斷善根。如未生怨王等。有斷善根亦邪性定聚。如提婆達多等。彼斷善根亦造無間業故。有不斷善根亦非邪性定聚。謂除前相。問於何處受斷善邪見異熟果耶。答於無間地獄受彼異熟果。如阿羅漢所趣最上到於涅槃。斷善根者所趣最下到無間獄。復次如有頂定思有漏善中勝故受有頂異熟果。如是斷善邪見惡中勝故。於無間獄受異熟果。問於何處受無間業果。答若斷善者。諸無間業。及餘破僧。定於無間地獄中受。若不斷善者。餘四無間業。或於無間地獄。或餘地獄中受異熟果。問斷善邪見於眾同分為但能滿亦能引耶。答亦能牽引。亦能圓滿。有作是說。但能圓滿不能牽引。所以者何。業能牽引眾同分果彼非業故。如是說者。前說者好。邪見相應有思業故。邪見與彼同一果故。

this admits of four alternatives: there is one who has cut off his wholesome roots yet does not belong to the class of the wrongly determined — as with Pūraṇa and the other five heterodox teachers, who cut off their wholesome roots without committing any offense of uninterrupted retribution; there is one who belongs to the class of the wrongly determined yet has not cut off his wholesome roots — as with King Ajātaśatru and the like; there is one who has both cut off his wholesome roots and belongs to the class of the wrongly determined — as with Devadatta and the like, who both cut off their wholesome roots and committed an offense of uninterrupted retribution; and there is one who neither has cut off his wholesome roots nor belongs to the class of the wrongly determined — namely, whatever remains apart from the foregoing. One asks: in what place is the ripened fruit of the wrong view that cuts off wholesome roots received? The answer: its ripened fruit is received within the uninterrupted hell — just as an arhat's own destination is the very highest, arriving at nirvāṇa, so too does one who has cut off his wholesome roots have as his own destination the very lowest, arriving at the uninterrupted hell. Further, just as the concentration belonging to the peak of existence, being the most excellent among contaminated wholesome states, receives the ripened fruit belonging to the peak of existence, so too, the wrong view that cuts off wholesome roots, being the most excellent among evils, receives its ripened fruit within the uninterrupted hell. One asks: in what place is the fruit of an offense of uninterrupted retribution received? The answer: if one has cut off one's wholesome roots, then every offense of uninterrupted retribution, together with the further offense of schism within the saṅgha, is necessarily received within the uninterrupted hell; if one has not cut off one's wholesome roots, then the remaining four offenses of uninterrupted retribution may have their ripened fruit received either within the uninterrupted hell or within some other hell. One asks: with respect to the class of homogeneous being, is the wrong view that cuts off wholesome roots able only to bring it to completion, or is it also able to draw it forth? The answer: it is able both to draw it forth and to bring it to completion. There are those who say: it is able only to bring it to completion, and is not able to draw it forth. Why is this so? It is karma that is able to draw forth the fruit of the class of homogeneous being, and this wrong view is not itself karma. Those who hold the former position are to be preferred, since intentional karma exists in association with wrong view, and wrong view shares one and the same fruit together with it.

Reading note — Ru-Yi

The split verdict — formal culpability favoring the human victim, the karmic path itself favoring the ant's egg — is one of the more philosophically interesting moments in this whole fascicle: it refuses to collapse two genuinely different evaluative frameworks, social and legal weight on one hand, the intrinsic wholesome status of what is destroyed on the other, into a single ranking, insisting instead that both perspectives are simultaneously valid answers to two different questions asked using the very same words.

Fascicle 35 Complete

This closes fascicle 35 of Ru-Yi's translation, drawn from the treatise's true CBETA boundary — the repeated second title line that follows carries no further content in this fascicle and has simply been omitted. Fascicle 35 covered shame and moral dread as the two bright dharmas protecting the world, predominant and subtly co-arising unwholesome roots, and an exhaustive investigation into how wrong view severs the wholesome roots entirely — who is capable of it, which realms and continents it reaches, whether it happens gradually or all at once — closing with the remarkable, hopeful teaching that even this gravest of falls can be reconnected, sometimes within this very life, leaving the noble path still open. Fascicle 36 continues the same nyāsa.