The Bird That Cannot Find the Sky's Edge
Fascicle 129 tells the beloved story of the monk Aśvajit's quest through every heaven to learn where the four great elements ultimately cease, the Buddha's reframing of the question through the parable of a bird unable to find the edge of the sky, a precise map of which absorption eliminates which physical and mental factor, and a rich closing account of the four nutriments. This page carries Ru-Yi's complete translation.
Translation Method
The Chinese source is Xuánzàng's seventh-century translation of the Abhidharma-mahāvibhāṣā-śāstra (阿毘達磨大毘婆沙論), preserved in the Taishō canon (T1545, vol. 27) via the CBETA digital edition — public domain text, translated directly from the Chinese. The English wording throughout is Ru-Yi's own, and the reading notes are original, grounded in standard Sarvāstivāda scholarship rather than a specific named commentator's lecture transcript.
Fascicle 129 continues the Great-Elements-and-Derivatives Nyāsa (大造納息第一之三). Terms established across fascicles 93–128 recur here and are not re-explained at each occurrence.
Classical text is set in the left-hand column below, our English in the right.
1. Aśvajit's Quest: Ascending Through Every Heaven in Search of an Answer
Fascicle 129 opens with one of the treatise's most memorable narratives. The monk Aśvajit, wondering where the four great elements ultimately cease, uses his meditative power to travel upward through heaven after heaven — the Four Great Kings, the Thirty-Three, Yāma, Tuṣita, Nirmāṇarati, Paranirmita-vaśavartin, and finally the Brahma world itself — each divine assembly in turn deferring the question to whatever authority stands above it, until even Mahābrahmā, cornered and unable to answer, resorts to grandiose evasion before finally admitting, in private, that he does not know either.
大種蘊第五中大造納息第一之三諸四大種依何定滅。乃至廣說。問何故作此論。答欲顯諸佛出現世間有大功德故。如施設論說。贍部洲邊繞大海際。有轉輪王路廣一踰繕那。諸轉輪王若不出世水所覆沒無能遊履。若出世時海水周減一踰繕那。此路乃現平飾清淨底布金砂。栴檀香水自然灑潤。輪王每欲巡此洲時。導從四軍而遊此路。如是諸佛未出世時。無有能依諸根本地斷煩惱者。若佛十力大法輪王出世間時。根本地現平等清淨。布覺分砂灑戒定水。佛與無數那庾多眷屬。依之趣入無畏涅槃宮。問此中云何顯佛出世有大功德。答佛不出世此問尚無況有能答。如佛昔在室羅筏城住誓多林。時有苾芻名曰馬勝。是阿羅漢。
Fifth Aggregate, the Great Elements: the Great-Elements-and-Derivatives Nyāsa, Chapter One, Part Three. On what absorption does the extinction of the four great elements depend? And so on in full. Question: why compose this treatise? Answer: in order to display the great merit of the buddhas' appearance in the world. As the Prajñaptiśāstra says: at the edge of Jambudvīpa, ringing the great ocean, there is a road for a wheel-turning king, one yojana wide — and, if no wheel-turning king appears in the world, this road remains submerged beneath the water, so that none can travel it; but when such a king does appear, the ocean recedes on every side by a full yojana, and this road then appears, smooth and pure, its bed strewn with golden sand, sprinkled of its own accord with sandalwood-scented water — and, whenever the wheel-turning king wishes to make his circuit of this continent, he travels this road escorted by his four armies. Just so, before any buddha appears in the world, there is no one capable of cutting off the afflictions by relying on the fundamental grounds of absorption; but when a buddha, the great Dharma-wheel-turning king endowed with the ten powers, appears in the world, these fundamental grounds appear level and pure, strewn with the sand of the factors of awakening, sprinkled with the water of moral discipline and concentration — and the Buddha, together with countless myriads of followers, relies upon them to advance into the fearless palace of nirvāṇa. Question: how does this passage display the great merit of a buddha's appearing in the world? Answer: without a buddha's appearance, this very question could not even be asked, let alone answered. As, once, when the Buddha was dwelling at Jeta's Grove near the city of Śrāvastī, there was a bhikṣu named Aśvajit, an arhat,
獨於靜室作是思惟。諸四大種何處永滅。為欲知故入勝等持。即以定心於誓多林沒。欻然出在四大王眾天。從定而起問彼天眾。諸四大種何處永滅。天眾答曰。我等不知是四大種何處永滅。然我所事四大天王。智慧威德並皆殊勝。彼或能了可往問之。尊者即時詣四王所。作如上問皆曰不知。復共仰推三十三天眾。三十三天眾復。
— who, alone in a quiet cell, reflected to himself: where do the four great elements ultimately cease? Wishing to know this, he entered a superior state of absorption, and, with his mind thus concentrated, vanished from Jeta's Grove, suddenly reappearing in the Heaven of the Four Great Kings. Rising from his absorption, he asked the divine assembly there: where do the four great elements ultimately cease? The assembly replied: we do not know where the four great elements ultimately cease — but the Four Great Kings whom we serve are surpassing in wisdom and majestic virtue; perhaps they can answer this, and you should go and ask them. The venerable one then went at once to the Four Kings and asked the same question, and they, too, said they did not know, but together deferred upward to the assembly of the Heaven of the Thirty-Three, who in turn
推帝釋。帝釋仰推夜摩天眾。夜摩天眾推蘇夜摩天子。蘇夜摩天子推覩史多天眾。覩史多天眾推珊覩史多天子。珊覩史多天子。推樂變化天眾。樂變化天眾推妙變化天子。妙變化天子推他化自在天眾。他化自在天眾推妙自在天子。妙自在天子推梵天眾。如是尊者遍問欲天竟。不能知大種滅處。欲往梵世入勝等持。復以定心自在宮沒。梵眾天出。從定而起作如上問。梵眾咸曰。我等不知有大梵王。是梵大梵作者化者。為一切父自在生育。具大威德無與等者。
— deferred to Śakra; Śakra, in turn, deferred upward to the assembly of the Yāma heaven; the assembly of the Yāma heaven deferred to the divine son Suyāma; Suyāma deferred to the assembly of Tuṣita heaven; the assembly of Tuṣita heaven deferred to the divine son Santuṣita; Santuṣita deferred to the assembly of the Nirmāṇarati heaven; the assembly of the Nirmāṇarati heaven deferred to the divine son Sunirmita; Sunirmita deferred to the assembly of the Paranirmita-vaśavartin heaven; the assembly of the Paranirmita-vaśavartin heaven deferred to the divine son Vaśavartin; and Vaśavartin, in turn, deferred to the assembly of the Brahma heaven. Thus, having questioned every heaven of the desire realm in turn, the venerable one was still unable to learn where the great elements cease, and, wishing to go to the Brahma world, once more entered a superior state of absorption, and, with his mind thus concentrated, vanished from the Heaven of Mastery over Others' Emanations, reappearing among the assembly of Brahma's own retinue. Rising from his absorption, he asked the same question as before, and the assembly of Brahmā's retinue all replied: we do not know, but there is a Great Brahmā King — this Brahmā, the Great Brahmā, the maker, the creator, the father of all beings, self-existent and self-generating, endowed with great majestic virtue, having no equal,
無有不見不了不識。彼定能知仁應往問。尊者即問大梵所在。梵眾答曰。我亦不知大梵天王定所在處。仁欲見者隨處諦求。即有光明於中而現。尊者馬勝遂發誠心。願大梵王於此眾現。應時大梵即放光明。便自化身為童子像。首分五頂形貌端嚴。在梵眾中隨光而現。尊者前進問曰。大仙諸四大種何處永滅。梵王不達作矯亂言。
— there being nothing he does not see, does not comprehend, does not know — he alone can surely answer this, and you should go and ask him. The venerable one at once asked where the Great Brahmā might be found, and the assembly of Brahmā's retinue replied: we, too, do not know exactly where the Great Brahmā King dwells — but if you sincerely seek him, wherever you search, a light will appear there. The Venerable Aśvajit accordingly gave rise to a sincere wish that the Great Brahmā King would manifest himself before this assembly — and, at that very moment, the Great Brahmā emitted a radiant light, and transformed himself into the likeness of a youth, his head crowned with five peaks, his form dignified and fine, appearing amid the assembly of Brahmā, following the light. The venerable one stepped forward and asked: Great Sage, where do the four great elements ultimately cease? Brahmā, unable to answer, spoke evasive and deceptive words,
苾芻當知我是大梵。是自在者作者。化者。生者養者為一切父。此是諂誑所發語業。尊者告曰。我不問仁梵非梵等。但問大種何處永滅。爾時大梵知此苾芻非矯亂言卒能酬遣。便執兩手引出眾外。此是諂誑所發身業。出眾外已謝尊者言。我實不知大種滅處。然諸梵眾咸謂我是自在作者無不知見。若我眾中云不知者。是諸梵眾便見輕蔑。尊者自失近捨如來。遠勞見問致無所獲。今可速還詣佛請問。如佛所說應正受持。馬勝既聞梵王推佛。歡喜辭退復入等持。
— saying, "Bhikṣu, you should know that I am the Great Brahmā, the sovereign, the maker, the creator, the begetter, the nurturer, the father of all" — this being deceptive verbal karma born of flattery. The venerable one told him, "I did not ask whether you are Brahmā or not — I ask only where the great elements ultimately cease." At this, the Great Brahmā, realizing that this bhikṣu could not be put off by evasive words, took him by both hands and drew him outside the assembly — this being deceptive bodily karma born of flattery. Once outside the assembly, he apologized to the venerable one, saying, "I truly do not know where the great elements cease. Yet my entire retinue believes me to be sovereign and all-creating, with nothing beyond my knowledge or sight — and, were I to admit before my own assembly that I do not know, they would come to hold me in contempt. You yourself have erred, in setting aside the Tathāgata nearby only to travel far and trouble me with this question, gaining nothing for it. You should now quickly return and ask the Buddha instead, and receive and uphold whatever he teaches." Having heard Brahmā defer to the Buddha, Aśvajit, delighted, took his leave and once more entered absorption,
Brahmā's private confession — that he cannot admit ignorance before his own worshipful retinue without losing their reverence — is a remarkably candid piece of religious satire: even a figure claiming to be the self-existent creator of all things is shown to be more concerned with maintaining his followers' image of him than with truth itself, and it takes a single persistent question from an arhat to expose the gap between a god's public performance and his private uncertainty.
2. The Buddha's Answer: The Bird That Cannot Find the Edge of the Sky
Returning empty-handed, Aśvajit receives from the Buddha not an answer but a correction: his question was never properly framed to begin with, no more answerable than a bird's futile search for the edge of the sky. The Buddha reframes the question in verse — where are the four elements, in all their qualities, utterly abandoned, and name-and-form ceases without remainder? — and answers with an equally poetic verse describing a boundless, markless consciousness surpassing everything else in vastness, in which all such elements and their derivatives are finally, wholly given up.
即以定心於梵世沒。欻然還出誓多林中。從定而起整理衣服。往世尊前恭敬作禮。問四大種何處永滅。爾時世尊為說不見邊際鳥喻云。汝亦然乃至梵宮遍請所問。不得邊際還至此中。猶如彼鳥不得邊際。然汝所問不合問儀。隨此而答亦乖答理。汝欲問者。當如是問。
— and, with his mind thus concentrated, vanished from the Brahma world, suddenly reappearing once more within Jeta's Grove. Rising from his absorption, he straightened his robes and, approaching the World-Honored One, bowed in reverence and asked where the four great elements ultimately cease. The World-Honored One then told him the parable of a bird unable to find the edge of the sky, saying: "You are just the same — having traveled as far as Brahmā's own palace, questioning along the way, you have found no boundary, and have returned here just as that bird, finding no edge, must also return. Yet your question was not properly framed to begin with, and any answer following it would likewise depart from the proper form of an answer. If you wish to ask this, you should ask it in this way:
四大與短長 細麁淨不淨於何處永棄 名色滅無餘此問隨順應如是答。
"'The four great elements, together with the long and the short, The fine and the coarse, the pure and the impure — Where are they utterly abandoned, Where do name and form cease without remainder?' Asked in accordance with this form, the question should be answered in this way:
識不見無邊 周遍廣大性更無餘廣大 能映奪此者四大與短長 細麁淨不淨於是處永棄 名色滅無餘有說。此中佛說聖道。世尊於此說識聲故。有說。此中佛說涅槃。
"'Consciousness, without mark, boundless, All-pervading, vast in its own nature, Surpassed by nothing else more vast, By which this alone is outshone and overcome — It is here that the four great elements, together with the long and the short, The fine and the coarse, the pure and the impure, are utterly abandoned, Here that name and form cease without remainder.'" Some say that here the Buddha is speaking of the noble path, since the World-Honored One here uses the term "consciousness." Others say that here the Buddha is speaking of nirvāṇa itself,
以說無邊識不見故。若無佛出世說正法者則雖梵王亦多愚惑。若佛出世宣說正法則八歲勤策亦能解了。設有來問長老知耶。諸四大種何處永滅。彼若誦持大種蘊者。即言依四定或依未至滅。世若無佛此等便無故。佛出世有大功德。
— since it speaks of a boundless, markless consciousness. If no buddha had appeared in the world to teach the true Dharma, even the Great Brahmā King himself would remain thoroughly confused on this matter — but, because a buddha did appear and proclaim the true Dharma, even an eight-year-old novice monk can now readily understand it. Were someone to come and ask, "Venerable elder, do you know where the four great elements ultimately cease?", any novice who has merely memorized the Great Elements Aggregate could answer at once, "They cease based on the four absorptions, or on the preparatory stage" — and, were there no buddha in the world, even this much would not exist. Hence a buddha's appearance in the world carries great merit indeed.
The Buddha's reframing does something subtler than merely answering a mystical riddle: it exposes that Aśvajit's original question already assumed the great elements were a kind of substance located somewhere in space, waiting to be found — and only once that assumption is corrected, replacing "where" with a question about consciousness and cessation, does an answer even become possible, making the entire episode as much a lesson in how to ask a question well as in what the answer itself contains.
3. Two Masters Disagree: Does 'Without Remainder' Mean Only the Noble Path?
A sharp scholarly dispute follows between two named masters, Timira and Ghoṣavarman, over how strictly to read the treatise's own claim that the elements are extinguished "without remainder": Timira insists this can only mean permanent extinction accomplished by noble ones through the noble path specifically, since the base sūtra speaks only of the seven fundamental grounds of absorption; Ghoṣavarman argues for a more inclusive reading covering both noble and mundane paths, both noble ones and ordinary beings — a reading the treatise's own verdict favors, reconciled against the narrower sūtra through the classic image of the Abhidharma as a mirror and lamp illuminating what the sūtras leave only partly stated.
諸四大種及所造色依何定滅。答依四定或依未至滅定。或名道或名行迹。或名對治。或名作意。義無差別。滅或名斷。或名離染。或名為盡。或名離繫。義亦無別。昔於此部有二論師。一名時毘羅。
On what absorption do the four great elements and derived form depend for their extinction? Answer: on the four absorptions, or on the preparatory stage. "Absorption" may also be called the path, the track, the antidote, or attention — these names carry no difference in meaning; "extinction" may also be called cutting-off, freedom from defilement, exhaustion, or freedom from bondage — these too carry no difference in meaning. In the past, within this school, there were two treatise-masters — one named Timira,
二名瞿沙伐摩。尊者時毘羅作如是說。此中但說永斷無餘斷。無隨縛斷。無少分斷。無影像斷。說聖者斷非異生斷。說聖道作用。非世俗道作用。所以者何。依七依經以立斯論。彼經但說根本地故。
— and the other named Ghoṣavarman. The Venerable Timira held that this passage speaks only of permanent extinction, extinction without remainder, never partial extinction, fractional extinction, or merely representational extinction; that it speaks of extinction accomplished by noble ones, not by ordinary beings; and that it speaks of the function of the noble path specifically, not of the mundane path — for why is this? Because this treatise is established on the basis of the Sūtra of the Seven Dependencies, and that sūtra speaks only of the fundamental grounds of absorption,
無有異生。或諸聖者依根本地起世俗道能離染故。尊者瞿沙伐摩作如是說。此中但說永斷無餘斷。無隨縛斷。無少分斷。無影像斷。
— with no mention of an ordinary being, or even a noble one, giving rise to a mundane path based on the fundamental grounds in order to become free of defilement. The Venerable Ghoṣavarman likewise held that this passage speaks only of permanent extinction, extinction without remainder, never partial extinction, fractional extinction, or merely representational extinction,
此說應理。餘則不然。所以者何。此中通說諸聖者斷。及異生斷。
— yet he held that this passage speaks of extinction by both noble ones and ordinary beings alike. This account accords with reason; the other does not, for why is this? Because this passage speaks generally of extinction accomplished by noble ones as well as by ordinary beings,
聖道作用。及世俗道作用故。問依七依經以立此論。彼經唯說諸根本地。無有異生。或諸聖者依根本地起世俗道。能離諸染云何說通。答由此故言阿毘達磨是諸經鏡燈焰光明。諸契經中未宣說者此中宣說。未示現者此中示現。經說有餘。此中無餘。經說有異意。
— and of the function of both the noble path and the mundane path together. Question: this treatise is established on the basis of the Sūtra of the Seven Dependencies, and that sūtra speaks only of the fundamental grounds, with no mention of an ordinary being, or even a noble one, giving rise to a mundane path based on the fundamental grounds to become free of defilement — how, then, is this to be reconciled? Answer: it is on this very account that the Abhidharma is said to be the mirror, lamp, flame, and light of the sūtras — what the sūtras have not proclaimed, this treatise proclaims; what they have not made manifest, this treatise makes manifest. Where the sūtra leaves something unstated, this treatise leaves nothing unstated; where the sūtra carries a different intent,
此中無異意。阿毘達磨中言多盡理。由此經論二說善通。
— this treatise carries no different intent, but simply states matters more exhaustively within the Abhidharma — and it is on this account that the two accounts, of the sūtra and of this treatise, are both properly reconciled.
Invoking the Abhidharma's own authority to explain away an apparent narrowing in the base sūtra is a bold interpretive move: rather than reading the sūtra's silence about ordinary beings and the mundane path as a deliberate restriction, the treatise treats that silence as simply incomplete, trusting its own more exhaustive analysis to fill in what the earlier, more compressed teaching left unstated.
4. Precisely Which Absorption Extinguishes the Elements at Each Level
A detailed technical map follows, specifying exactly which absorption is needed to finally eliminate the great elements and derived form bound to each realm — desire-realm elements yield to the mere preparatory stage of the first dhyāna, while elements bound to progressively higher dhyānas require progressively deeper absorption, with a careful distinction throughout between eliminations achievable only through the noble path (in the fundamental levels themselves) and those achievable through either the noble or the merely mundane path (in the preparatory, access-level stages that lack a properly noble path of their own).
大種造色依四定滅者。謂依四靜慮依未至滅者。謂依初靜慮近分。
As to the great elements and derived form being extinguished based on the four absorptions: this means based on the four dhyānas. As to being extinguished based on the preparatory stage: this means based on the preparatory stage of the first dhyāna,
及靜慮中間空無邊處近分。此中靜慮無色近分。靜慮中間皆名未至。並未能入勝根本地。而能現前斷煩惱故。問契經唯說根本名。
— together with the intermediate dhyāna and the preparatory stage of the sphere of infinite space. Here, the preparatory stages of the dhyānas and formless attainments, together with the intermediate dhyāna, are all called "the not-yet-attained," since, though not yet having entered the superior, fundamental ground itself, they are nevertheless capable of presently cutting off affliction. Question: the sūtra speaks only of the name "fundamental" —
依何故此中說依未至。有作是說。此中應言依四定或未至滅。不應言依未至。而言依者有何意耶。此文再說根本地故。依四定者說四依定。依未至者謂舉諸依。顯諸未至。非即說此未至為依。如說入城未入城耶。雖再說城言無別城事。彼亦如是。有餘師說。此中依言總說諸定。非但根本。皆能與道作所依故。然七依定就勝而說大種造色五地所繫。謂欲界四靜慮。是故離第四靜慮染時。乃究竟斷。然離彼染或依初靜慮近分。或依四靜慮。或依靜慮中間。或依空無邊處近分。若依空無邊處近分。離彼染時通。聖者及異生。唯世俗道非聖道。若依餘地離彼染時。唯聖者非異生。唯聖道非世俗道。此中說究竟所滅大種造色。謂第四靜慮所繫故。言依四定或依未至滅。若欲界所繫大種造色。但應言依未至滅。依初靜慮近分滅故。初靜慮所繫大種造色。應言依初定或依未至滅。依初靜慮靜慮中間。及前二靜慮近分滅故。第二靜慮所繫大種造色。應言依二定。或依未至滅。依前二靜慮靜慮中間。初及第三靜慮近分滅故。
— on what basis, then, does this treatise here speak of being based on "the not-yet-attained"? Some say: this passage ought to say "based on the four absorptions, or on what has not yet been attained," and ought not to say merely "based on the not-yet-attained" — but, since it does say "based on," what is its intent? It is simply that this passage speaks twice of the fundamental ground: "based on the four absorptions" names the four dependent absorptions, while "based on the not-yet-attained" merely raises the various dependencies in order to display the various not-yet-attained stages, not to state that this "not-yet-attained" itself serves as the basis — just as one might say, "entering the city, or not yet entering the city," where the word "city" is spoken twice without there being two distinct cities meant; it is the same here. Other masters say: the word "based on" here refers to absorption in general, not only the fundamental grounds, since every one of them is capable of serving as the basis for the path. Yet the seven dependent absorptions are spoken of here with reference to what is superior — the great elements and derived form are bound to five grounds, namely the desire realm and the four dhyānas, and hence it is only upon becoming free of the fourth dhyāna's defilement that their extinction is finally complete. Yet becoming free of that defilement may be based on the preparatory stage of the first dhyāna, or on the four dhyānas themselves, or on the intermediate dhyāna, or on the preparatory stage of the sphere of infinite space — and, if based on the preparatory stage of the sphere of infinite space, becoming free of that defilement is common to both noble ones and ordinary beings, and only the mundane path, never the noble path, is involved; while, if based on any other ground, becoming free of that defilement belongs only to noble ones, never ordinary beings, and only the noble path, never the mundane path, is involved. It is with reference to the great elements and derived form bound to the fourth dhyāna specifically that this passage speaks of their final extinction, saying "based on the four absorptions, or on the not-yet-attained." As to the great elements and derived form bound to the desire realm: it should be said only that they are extinguished based on the not-yet-attained, since they are extinguished by the preparatory stage of the first dhyāna. As to those bound to the first dhyāna: it should be said that they are extinguished based on the first absorption, or on the not-yet-attained, since they are extinguished by the first dhyāna, the intermediate dhyāna, or the preparatory stages of the first two dhyānas. As to those bound to the second dhyāna: it should be said that they are extinguished based on two absorptions, or on the not-yet-attained, since they are extinguished by the first two dhyānas, the intermediate dhyāna, or the preparatory stages of the first and third dhyānas.
第三靜慮所繫大種造色。應言依三定或依未至滅。依前三靜慮靜慮中間。初及第四靜慮近分滅故。應知此中諸依前三靜慮。及靜慮中間滅者。唯聖者非異生。唯聖道非世俗道。諸依初靜慮近分滅者。
As to those bound to the third dhyāna: it should be said that they are extinguished based on three absorptions, or on the not-yet-attained, since they are extinguished by the first three dhyānas, the intermediate dhyāna, or the preparatory stages of the first and fourth dhyānas. One should understand that, of these, extinction based on the first three dhyānas or the intermediate dhyāna belongs only to noble ones, never ordinary beings, and only the noble path, never the mundane path, is involved; while extinction based on the preparatory stage of the first dhyāna,
通聖者及異生。通聖道及世俗道。諸依餘三靜慮近分滅者。通聖者及異生。唯世俗道非聖道。上七近分無聖道故。
— is common to both noble ones and ordinary beings, and to both the noble and the mundane path; while extinction based on the preparatory stage of any of the other three dhyānas is likewise common to both noble ones and ordinary beings, yet involves only the mundane path, never the noble path, since none of these upper seven preparatory stages possess a noble path of their own.
That the highest seven preparatory stages entirely lack a noble path of their own — meaning any elimination accomplished there must be merely mundane, however deep the absorption involved — is a precise structural claim about the architecture of Buddhist cosmology: depth of concentration alone, however impressive, is never sufficient by itself to guarantee genuinely liberating insight, since only certain specific levels are even capable of hosting the noble path at all.
5. Reflection-and-Investigation-Contact, and the Pleasure Faculty's Own Elimination
The same exhaustive mapping extends to resistant contact associated with reflection and investigation — bound only to the desire realm and the first dhyāna, and hence eliminated relatively early — and to the pleasure faculty, which persists through the first three dhyānas and requires becoming free of the third dhyāna's own defilement before its elimination is finally complete.
尋伺有對觸依何定滅。答依初定。或依未至滅。依初定滅者。謂依初靜慮。依未至滅者。謂依前二靜慮近分。及靜慮中間。尋伺有對觸二地所繫。謂欲界初靜慮。是故離初靜慮染時。乃究竟斷。然離彼染或依初靜慮。或依靜慮中間。或依前二靜慮近分。若依第二靜慮近分。離彼染時通聖者及異生。唯世俗道非聖道。若依餘地離彼染時。唯聖者非異生。唯聖道非世俗道。此中說究竟所滅。尋伺有對觸。謂初靜慮所繫故。言依初定或依未至滅。若欲界所繫尋伺有對觸。但應言依未至滅。依初靜慮近分滅故。此通聖者及異生。通聖道及世俗道樂根依何定滅。答依三定或依未至滅。依三定滅者。
On what absorption does resistant contact associated with reflection and investigation depend for its extinction? Answer: on the first absorption, or on the not-yet-attained. As to extinction based on the first absorption: this means based on the first dhyāna. As to extinction based on the not-yet-attained: this means based on the preparatory stages of the first two dhyānas and the intermediate dhyāna. Resistant contact associated with reflection and investigation is bound to two grounds — the desire realm and the first dhyāna — and hence it is only upon becoming free of the first dhyāna's defilement that its extinction is finally complete. Yet becoming free of that defilement may be based on the first dhyāna, the intermediate dhyāna, or the preparatory stage of the second dhyāna — and, if based on the preparatory stage of the second dhyāna, becoming free of that defilement is common to both noble ones and ordinary beings, involving only the mundane path, never the noble path; while, if based on any other ground, it belongs only to noble ones, never ordinary beings, involving only the noble path, never the mundane path. It is with reference to resistant contact associated with reflection and investigation bound to the first dhyāna specifically that this passage speaks of its final extinction, saying "based on the first absorption, or on the not-yet-attained." As to such contact bound to the desire realm: it should be said only that it is extinguished based on the not-yet-attained, since it is extinguished by the preparatory stage of the first dhyāna — and this is common to both noble ones and ordinary beings, and to both the noble and the mundane path. On what absorption does the pleasure faculty depend for its extinction? Answer: on three absorptions, or on the not-yet-attained. As to extinction based on three absorptions:
謂依前三靜慮。依未至滅者。謂依初靜慮近分。及靜慮中間。第四靜慮近分。樂根三地所繫。謂欲界初靜慮第三靜慮。是故離第三靜慮染時。乃究竟斷。然離彼染或依前三靜慮。或依靜慮中間。或依初及第四靜慮近分。若依第四靜慮近分。離彼染時。通聖者及異生。唯世俗道非聖道。若依餘地離彼染時。唯聖者非異生。唯聖道非世俗道。此中說究竟所滅樂根。謂第三靜慮所繫故。言依三定。
— this means based on the first three dhyānas. As to extinction based on the not-yet-attained: this means based on the preparatory stage of the first dhyāna, the intermediate dhyāna, and the preparatory stage of the fourth dhyāna. The pleasure faculty is bound to three grounds — the desire realm, the first dhyāna, and the third dhyāna — and hence it is only upon becoming free of the third dhyāna's defilement that its extinction is finally complete. Yet becoming free of that defilement may be based on the first three dhyānas, the intermediate dhyāna, or the preparatory stage of the first or fourth dhyāna — and, if based on the preparatory stage of the fourth dhyāna, becoming free of that defilement is common to both noble ones and ordinary beings, involving only the mundane path, never the noble path; while, if based on any other ground, it belongs only to noble ones, never ordinary beings, involving only the noble path, never the mundane path. It is with reference to the pleasure faculty bound to the third dhyāna specifically that this passage speaks of its final extinction, saying "based on three absorptions,
或依未至滅。若欲界所繫樂根。但應言依未至滅。依初靜慮近分滅故。初靜慮所繫樂根。應言依初定。或依未至滅。依初靜慮靜慮中間。及前二靜慮近分滅故。此中諸依初靜慮。及靜慮中間滅者。唯聖者非異生。唯聖道非世俗道。諸依初靜慮近分滅者。通聖者及異生。通聖道及世俗道。依第二靜慮近分滅者。通聖者及異生。唯世俗道非聖道。
— or on the not-yet-attained." As to the pleasure faculty bound to the desire realm: it should be said only that it is extinguished based on the not-yet-attained, since it is extinguished by the preparatory stage of the first dhyāna. As to the pleasure faculty bound to the first dhyāna: it should be said that it is extinguished based on the first absorption, or on the not-yet-attained, since it is extinguished by the first dhyāna, the intermediate dhyāna, or the preparatory stages of the first two dhyānas. Here, extinction based on the first dhyāna or the intermediate dhyāna belongs only to noble ones, never ordinary beings, involving only the noble path; extinction based on the preparatory stage of the first dhyāna is common to both noble ones and ordinary beings, and to both the noble and mundane path; and extinction based on the preparatory stage of the second dhyāna is common to both noble ones and ordinary beings, involving only the mundane path, never the noble path.
Watching pleasure itself require elimination through the third dhyāna specifically — surviving contentedly through two entire levels of increasingly refined absorption before finally yielding — is a vivid reminder that this tradition treats even subtle, refined happiness as still a form of bondage to be worked through, not a resting point to remain content within.
6. Joy, Pain, and the Desire Realm's Own Simpler Case
The joy faculty follows the identical pattern one level lower, persisting through the first two dhyānas before yielding at the second's own elimination. The pain and displeasure faculties, together with morsel-food itself, prove far simpler by comparison, since all three are bound solely to the desire realm — their elimination is finally complete the very instant one becomes free of that realm's defilement, requiring nothing beyond the modest preparatory stage of the very first dhyāna.
喜根依何定滅。答依二定或依未至滅。依二定滅者。謂依前二靜慮。依未至滅者。謂依初靜慮近分。及靜慮中間。第三靜慮近分。
On what absorption does the joy faculty depend for its extinction? Answer: on two absorptions, or on the not-yet-attained. As to extinction based on two absorptions: this means based on the first two dhyānas. As to extinction based on the not-yet-attained: this means based on the preparatory stage of the first dhyāna, the intermediate dhyāna, and the preparatory stage of the third dhyāna.
喜根三地所繫。謂欲界前二靜慮。是故離第二靜慮染時。乃究竟斷。然離彼染。或依前二靜慮。或依靜慮中間。或依初及第三靜慮近分。若依第三靜慮近分。離彼染時。通聖者及異生。唯世俗道非聖道。若依餘地離彼染時。唯聖者非異生。唯聖道非世俗道此中說究竟所滅喜根。謂第二靜慮所繫故。言依二定。或依未至滅。若欲界所繫喜根。但應言依未至滅。依初靜慮近分滅故。初靜慮所繫喜根。應言依初定。或依未至滅。依初靜慮靜慮中間。及前二靜慮近分滅故。此中諸依初靜慮。靜慮中間滅者。唯聖者非異生。唯聖道非世俗道。依初靜慮近分滅者。通聖者及異生。通聖道及世俗道。
The joy faculty is bound to three grounds — the desire realm and the first two dhyānas — and hence it is only upon becoming free of the second dhyāna's defilement that its extinction is finally complete. Yet becoming free of that defilement may be based on the first two dhyānas, the intermediate dhyāna, or the preparatory stage of the first or third dhyāna — and, if based on the preparatory stage of the third dhyāna, becoming free of that defilement is common to both noble ones and ordinary beings, involving only the mundane path; while, if based on any other ground, it belongs only to noble ones, involving only the noble path. It is with reference to the joy faculty bound to the second dhyāna specifically that this passage speaks of its final extinction, saying "based on two absorptions, or on the not-yet-attained." As to the joy faculty bound to the desire realm: it should be said only that it is extinguished based on the not-yet-attained, since it is extinguished by the preparatory stage of the first dhyāna. As to the joy faculty bound to the first dhyāna: it should be said that it is extinguished based on the first absorption, or on the not-yet-attained, since it is extinguished by the first dhyāna, the intermediate dhyāna, or the preparatory stages of the first two dhyānas. Here, extinction based on the first dhyāna or the intermediate dhyāna belongs only to noble ones, involving only the noble path; extinction based on the preparatory stage of the first dhyāna is common to both noble ones and ordinary beings, and to both the noble and mundane path;
依第二靜慮近分滅者。通聖者及異生。唯世俗道非聖道。苦根憂根段食依何定滅。答依未至滅。謂初靜慮近分以苦根等唯欲界繫。是故離彼染時。即究竟斷。然離彼染時。唯依初靜慮近分。此通聖者及異生。通聖道及世俗道。
— and extinction based on the preparatory stage of the second dhyāna is common to both noble ones and ordinary beings, involving only the mundane path. On what absorption do the pain faculty, the displeasure faculty, and morsel-nutriment depend for their extinction? Answer: on the not-yet-attained — namely, the preparatory stage of the first dhyāna. Since the pain faculty and the rest are bound solely to the desire realm, their extinction is finally complete the very moment one becomes free of that realm's defilement — and becoming free of that defilement depends solely on the preparatory stage of the first dhyāna, common to both noble ones and ordinary beings, and to both the noble and mundane path.
The stark contrast between joy and pleasure's own drawn-out elimination across multiple dhyānas and pain's comparatively swift dispatch at the very threshold of absorption encodes a quiet asymmetry: refined pleasant experience turns out to be a subtler, more persistent form of attachment than raw suffering, which, once one steps even slightly beyond the desire realm's own grip, simply has nowhere left to occur.
7. Equanimity, Contact, Volition, and Consciousness: The Longest Climb of All
The equanimity faculty, together with contact, volition, and consciousness as nutriment, proves the most persistent of all — bound across all nine grounds from the desire realm up through the very peak of existence, and hence requiring elimination of that highest sphere's own defilement, achievable only through the noble path, before their extinction is finally, truly complete.
捨根觸思識食。依何定滅。答依七定。或依未至滅。依七定滅者。
On what absorption do the equanimity faculty, contact, volition, and consciousness-as-nutriment depend for their extinction? Answer: on seven absorptions, or on the not-yet-attained. As to extinction based on seven absorptions:
謂依四靜慮。及前三無色。依未至滅者。謂依初靜慮近分。及靜慮中間。此捨根等九地所繫。謂從欲界乃至非想非非想處。是故離非想非非想處染時。乃究竟斷。然離彼染。或依初靜慮近分。或依靜慮中間。或依四靜慮。或依前三無色。此唯聖者非異生。唯聖道非世俗道。此中說究竟所滅捨根三食。謂非想非非想處所繫故。言依七定。或依未至滅。若欲界所繫捨根三食。但應言依未至滅。依初靜慮近分滅故。初靜慮所繫捨根三食。應言依初定。或依未至滅。
— this means based on the four dhyānas together with the first three formless attainments. As to extinction based on the not-yet-attained: this means based on the preparatory stage of the first dhyāna and the intermediate dhyāna. The equanimity faculty and the rest are bound to nine grounds, extending from the desire realm up through the sphere of neither-perception-nor-non-perception, and hence it is only upon becoming free of that highest sphere's defilement that their extinction is finally complete. Yet becoming free of that defilement may be based on the preparatory stage of the first dhyāna, the intermediate dhyāna, the four dhyānas, or the first three formless attainments — and this belongs only to noble ones, never ordinary beings, involving only the noble path, never the mundane path. It is with reference to the equanimity faculty and the three kinds of nutriment bound to the sphere of neither-perception-nor-non-perception specifically that this passage speaks of their final extinction, saying "based on seven absorptions, or on the not-yet-attained." As to those bound to the desire realm: it should be said only that they are extinguished based on the not-yet-attained, since they are extinguished by the preparatory stage of the first dhyāna. As to those bound to the first dhyāna: it should be said that they are extinguished based on the first absorption, or on the not-yet-attained,
依初靜慮靜慮中間。及前二靜慮近分滅故。第二靜慮所繫捨根三食。應言依二定。或依未至滅。依前二靜慮靜慮中間。初及第三靜慮近分滅故。第三靜慮所繫捨根三食。應言依三定。或依未至滅。
— since they are extinguished by the first dhyāna, the intermediate dhyāna, or the preparatory stages of the first two dhyānas. As to those bound to the second dhyāna: it should be said that they are extinguished based on two absorptions, or on the not-yet-attained, since they are extinguished by the first two dhyānas, the intermediate dhyāna, or the preparatory stages of the first and third dhyānas. As to those bound to the third dhyāna: it should be said that they are extinguished based on three absorptions, or on the not-yet-attained,
依前三靜慮靜慮中間。初及第四靜慮近分滅故。第四靜慮所繫捨根三食。應言依四定。或依未至滅。依四靜慮靜慮中間。初靜慮近分。空無邊處近分滅故。空無邊處捨根三食。應言依五定。或依未至滅。依四靜慮。空無邊處。靜慮中間。初靜慮近分。識無邊處近分滅故。識無邊處捨根三食。應言依六定。或依未至滅。依四靜慮。前二無色靜慮中間。初靜慮近分。無所有處近分滅故。無所有處捨根三食。應言依七定。或依未至滅。依四靜慮。前三無色。靜慮中間。初靜慮近分。非想非非想處近分滅故。此中諸依七定。靜慮中間滅者。唯聖者非異生。唯聖道非世俗道。諸依初靜慮近分滅者。通聖者及異生。通聖道及世俗道。諸依上七地近分滅者。通聖者及異生唯世俗道非聖道諸四大種及所造色。已斷已遍知當言住何果。答阿羅漢果。或無所住。住阿羅漢果者。謂彼補特伽羅大種造色。已斷遍知住無學果。或無所住者。謂彼補特伽羅大種造色。已斷遍知猶未住果。即諸異生已離色界染。及先離彼染。入正性離生。住見道中十五心頃。若漸次者離第四靜慮染。最後解脫道離空無邊處染。諸加行道九無間道九解脫道。乃至離無所有處染應知亦爾。離非想非非想處染。諸加行道九無間道八解脫道。住此諸位補特伽羅大種造色。已斷遍知。於四沙門果而猶未住。問先離色界染入正性離生道類智時。大種造色已斷遍知。此補特伽羅住不還果。
— since they are extinguished by the first three dhyānas, the intermediate dhyāna, or the preparatory stages of the first and fourth dhyānas. As to those bound to the fourth dhyāna: it should be said that they are extinguished based on four absorptions, or on the not-yet-attained, since they are extinguished by the four dhyānas, the intermediate dhyāna, the preparatory stage of the first dhyāna, or the preparatory stage of the sphere of infinite space. As to those bound to the sphere of infinite space: it should be said that they are extinguished based on five absorptions, or on the not-yet-attained, since they are extinguished by the four dhyānas, the sphere of infinite space, the intermediate dhyāna, the preparatory stage of the first dhyāna, or the preparatory stage of the sphere of infinite consciousness. As to those bound to the sphere of infinite consciousness: it should be said that they are extinguished based on six absorptions, or on the not-yet-attained, since they are extinguished by the four dhyānas, the first two formless attainments, the intermediate dhyāna, the preparatory stage of the first dhyāna, or the preparatory stage of the sphere of nothingness. As to those bound to the sphere of nothingness: it should be said that they are extinguished based on seven absorptions, or on the not-yet-attained, since they are extinguished by the four dhyānas, the first three formless attainments, the intermediate dhyāna, the preparatory stage of the first dhyāna, or the preparatory stage of the sphere of neither-perception-nor-non-perception. Here, extinction based on the seven absorptions or the intermediate dhyāna belongs only to noble ones, involving only the noble path; extinction based on the preparatory stage of the first dhyāna is common to both noble ones and ordinary beings, and to both the noble and mundane path; and extinction based on the preparatory stages of the seven higher grounds is common to both noble ones and ordinary beings, involving only the mundane path, never the noble path. Once the four great elements and derived form have been cut off and fully understood, in what fruit should one be said to abide? Answer: the fruit of arhatship, or no fruit at all. As to abiding in the fruit of arhatship: this means a person whose extinction and full understanding of the great elements and derived form coincides with abiding in the fruit of the non-learner. As to abiding in no fruit at all: this means a person whose extinction and full understanding of the great elements and derived form has occurred, yet who does not yet abide in any fruit — namely, ordinary beings who have already become free of the form realm's defilement, or who, having previously become free of that defilement, enter the certainty of correctness and abide within the fifteen mind-moments of the path of seeing; or, in the case of one progressing gradually, one who, having become free of the fourth dhyāna's defilement, at the final liberation-path becomes free of the sphere of infinite space's defilement, passing through nine preparatory paths, nine uninterrupted paths, and nine liberation paths, and so on likewise up through becoming free of the sphere of nothingness's defilement; and, in becoming free of the sphere of neither-perception-nor-non-perception's defilement, through nine preparatory paths, nine uninterrupted paths, and eight liberation paths — a person abiding in any of these stages has already cut off and fully understood the great elements and derived form, yet does not yet abide in any of the four fruits of a renunciant. Question: one who has previously become free of the form realm's defilement and, at the moment of entering the certainty of correctness, attains the subsequent-knowledge of the path, has thereby already cut off and fully understood the great elements and derived form — such a person abides in the fruit of non-returning.
That equanimity itself — the very quality most closely associated with spiritual maturity and non-reactivity — turns out to be the single most tenacious factor requiring elimination, persisting all the way to the peak of conditioned existence, suggests a genuinely counterintuitive lesson: even the calm neutrality often prized as a sign of progress is, on this account, simply the most refined and therefore the most stubborn form of continued bondage to conditioned experience.
8. Once Eliminated, What Fruit Does One Abide In? The Ledger of Attainment
A parallel set of questions asks, once each of these factors has been completely eliminated and fully understood, which of the four fruits of the path — from stream-entry through arhatship — a person should be said to abide in. The answer is worked out through an elaborate developmental ledger tracking ordinary beings who become free of a given level's defilement before or during their entry into the certainty of correctness, and those progressing gradually, level by level, through the nine grades of preparatory, uninterrupted, and liberation paths — repeatedly noting cases where completing the elimination coincides exactly with entering a new, higher fruit.
此中何故不說。答應說而不說者當知此義有餘。有說。此中依漸次說。謂說具縛入正性離生者。非超越者是故不說。尋伺有對觸已斷已遍知。當言住何果。答阿羅漢果。或無所住。住阿羅漢果者。謂彼補特伽羅尋伺有對觸已斷遍知。住無學果。或無所住者。謂彼補特伽羅尋伺有對觸已斷遍知。猶未住果。即諸異生已離初靜慮染。
Why, then, is this case not mentioned here? Answer: that it ought to be mentioned yet is not should be understood as a matter left with a further, supplementary account. Others say: this passage speaks only with reference to gradual progress — that is, it speaks of one who, still fully fettered, enters the certainty of correctness, not of one who has already transcended some stages beforehand, and hence this case is not mentioned. Once resistant contact associated with reflection and investigation has been cut off and fully understood, in what fruit should one be said to abide? Answer: the fruit of arhatship, or no fruit at all. As to abiding in the fruit of arhatship: this means a person whose extinction and full understanding of this contact coincides with abiding in the fruit of the non-learner. As to abiding in no fruit at all: this means a person whose extinction and full understanding of this contact has occurred, yet who does not yet abide in any fruit — namely, ordinary beings who have already become free of the first dhyāna's defilement,
或先離彼染。入正性離生住見道中十五心頃。若漸次者。離初靜慮染最後解脫道。離第二靜慮染。諸加行道九無間道九解脫道。乃至離無所有處染。應知亦爾。離非想非非想處染。諸加行道九無間道八解脫道。住此諸位補特伽羅尋伺有對觸已斷遍知。於四沙門果而猶未住。問先離初靜慮染。入正性離生道類智時。尋伺有對觸已斷遍知。此補特伽羅住不還果。此中何故不說。答應說而不說者當知此義有餘。有說。此中依漸次說。廣說如前。樂根已斷已遍知當言住何果。答住阿羅漢果。或無所住。住阿羅漢果者。謂彼補特伽羅樂根已斷遍知。住無學果。或無所住者。謂彼補特伽羅樂根已斷遍知。猶未住果。即諸異生已離第三靜慮染。或先離彼染。入正性離生。住見道中十五心頃。若漸次者。離第三靜慮染。最後解脫道離第四靜慮染。諸加行道九無間道九解脫道。乃至離無所有處染。應知亦爾。離非想非非想處染。諸加行道九無間道八解脫道。住此諸位補特伽羅。樂根已斷遍知。於四沙門果。而猶未住。問先離第三靜慮染。入正性離生道類智時。爾時樂根已斷遍知。此補特伽羅住不還果。此中何故不說。答應說而不說者當知此義有餘。有說。此中依漸次說廣說如前。
— or who, having previously become free of that defilement, enter the certainty of correctness and abide within the fifteen mind-moments of the path of seeing; or, in the case of one progressing gradually, one who, at the final liberation-path of becoming free of the first dhyāna's defilement, becomes free of the second dhyāna's defilement, passing through nine preparatory paths, nine uninterrupted paths, and nine liberation paths, and so on likewise up through becoming free of the sphere of nothingness's defilement; and, in becoming free of the sphere of neither-perception-nor-non-perception's defilement, through nine preparatory paths, nine uninterrupted paths, and eight liberation paths — a person abiding in any of these stages has already cut off and fully understood this contact, yet does not yet abide in any of the four fruits. Question: one who has previously become free of the first dhyāna's defilement and, at the moment of entering the certainty of correctness, attains the subsequent-knowledge of the path, has thereby already cut off and fully understood this contact — such a person abides in the fruit of non-returning. Why, then, is this case not mentioned here? Answer: that it ought to be mentioned yet is not should be understood as a matter left with a further, supplementary account. Others say: this passage speaks only with reference to gradual progress, explained in full as before. Once the pleasure faculty has been cut off and fully understood, in what fruit should one be said to abide? Answer: the fruit of arhatship, or no fruit at all. As to abiding in the fruit of arhatship: this means a person whose extinction and full understanding of the pleasure faculty coincides with abiding in the fruit of the non-learner. As to abiding in no fruit at all: this means a person whose extinction and full understanding of the pleasure faculty has occurred, yet who does not yet abide in any fruit — namely, ordinary beings who have already become free of the third dhyāna's defilement, or who, having previously become free of that defilement, enter the certainty of correctness and abide within the fifteen mind-moments of the path of seeing; or, in the case of one progressing gradually, one who, at the final liberation-path of becoming free of the third dhyāna's defilement, becomes free of the fourth dhyāna's defilement, passing through nine preparatory paths, nine uninterrupted paths, and nine liberation paths, and so on likewise up through becoming free of the sphere of nothingness's defilement; and, in becoming free of the sphere of neither-perception-nor-non-perception's defilement, through nine preparatory paths, nine uninterrupted paths, and eight liberation paths — a person abiding in any of these stages has already cut off and fully understood the pleasure faculty, yet does not yet abide in any of the four fruits. Question: one who has previously become free of the third dhyāna's defilement and, at that same moment of entering the certainty of correctness, attains the subsequent-knowledge of the path, has thereby already cut off and fully understood the pleasure faculty — such a person abides in the fruit of non-returning. Why, then, is this case not mentioned here? Answer: that it ought to be mentioned yet is not should be understood as a matter left with a further, supplementary account. Others say: this passage speaks only with reference to gradual progress, explained in full as before.
喜根已斷已遍知。當言住何果。答阿羅漢果。或無所住。住阿羅漢果者。謂彼補特伽羅喜根已斷遍知。住無學果。無所住者。謂彼補特伽羅。喜根已斷遍知。猶未住果。即諸異生已離第二靜慮染。或先離彼染。入正性離生。住見道中十五心頃。若漸次者。離第二靜慮染。最後解脫道。離第三靜慮染。諸加行道九無間道九解脫道。
Once the joy faculty has been cut off and fully understood, in what fruit should one be said to abide? Answer: the fruit of arhatship, or no fruit at all. As to abiding in the fruit of arhatship: this means a person whose extinction and full understanding of the joy faculty coincides with abiding in the fruit of the non-learner. As to no fruit at all: this means a person whose extinction and full understanding of the joy faculty has occurred, yet who does not yet abide in any fruit — namely, ordinary beings who have already become free of the second dhyāna's defilement, or who, having previously become free of that defilement, enter the certainty of correctness and abide within the fifteen mind-moments of the path of seeing; or, in the case of one progressing gradually, one who, at the final liberation-path of becoming free of the second dhyāna's defilement, becomes free of the third dhyāna's defilement, passing through nine preparatory paths, nine uninterrupted paths, and nine liberation paths,
乃至離無所有處染。應知亦爾。離非想非非想處染。諸加行道九無間道八解脫道。住此諸位補特伽羅喜根已斷遍知。於四沙門果而猶未住。問先離第二靜慮染。入正性離生道類智時。爾時喜根已斷遍知。此補特伽羅住不還果。此中何故不說。答應說而不說者當知此義有餘。有說。此中依漸次說。廣說如前苦根憂根段食。已斷已遍知。當言住何果。答不還果。或阿羅漢果。或無所住。住不還果者。謂彼補特伽羅苦根等三已斷遍知。住學第三果。住阿羅漢果者。謂彼補特伽羅苦根等三已斷遍知。住無學果。無所住者。謂彼補特伽羅苦根等三已斷遍知。猶未住果。即諸異生已離欲界染。或先離彼染。入正性離生。住見道中十五心頃。住此諸位補特伽羅。
— and so on likewise up through becoming free of the sphere of nothingness's defilement; and, in becoming free of the sphere of neither-perception-nor-non-perception's defilement, through nine preparatory paths, nine uninterrupted paths, and eight liberation paths — a person abiding in any of these stages has already cut off and fully understood the joy faculty, yet does not yet abide in any of the four fruits. Question: one who has previously become free of the second dhyāna's defilement and, at that same moment of entering the certainty of correctness, attains the subsequent-knowledge of the path, has thereby already cut off and fully understood the joy faculty — such a person abides in the fruit of non-returning. Why, then, is this case not mentioned here? Answer: that it ought to be mentioned yet is not should be understood as a matter left with a further, supplementary account. Others say: this passage speaks only with reference to gradual progress, explained in full as before. Once the pain faculty, the displeasure faculty, and morsel-nutriment have been cut off and fully understood, in what fruit should one be said to abide? Answer: the fruit of non-returning, or the fruit of arhatship, or no fruit at all. As to abiding in the fruit of non-returning: this means a person whose extinction and full understanding of these three coincides with abiding in the trainee's third fruit. As to abiding in the fruit of arhatship: this means a person whose extinction and full understanding of these three coincides with abiding in the fruit of the non-learner. As to no fruit at all: this means a person whose extinction and full understanding of these three has occurred, yet who does not yet abide in any fruit — namely, ordinary beings who have already become free of the desire realm's defilement, or who, having previously become free of that defilement, enter the certainty of correctness and abide within the fifteen mind-moments of the path of seeing — a person abiding in any of these stages
苦根等三已斷遍知。於四沙門果而猶未住。此中不說漸次諸位名無所住。以離欲界染最後無間道生。爾時苦根等三究竟斷盡。最後解脫道時。此補特伽羅必住不還果故。
— has already cut off and fully understood these three, yet does not yet abide in any of the four fruits. Here, no gradual stages are mentioned as "no fruit at all," since, at the arising of the final uninterrupted path in becoming free of the desire realm's defilement, these three are already, at that very moment, completely and finally exhausted, and, at the final liberation-path, such a person necessarily already abides in the fruit of non-returning.
The recurring, almost ritualized question — "why is this particular intermediate case not mentioned here?" — followed by the honest answer that the matter is simply "left with a further account," reveals a text willing to acknowledge its own incompleteness rather than force every possible developmental permutation into its stated formula, trusting the reader to recognize an omission as a gap left open rather than an oversight.
9. A Dispute Over What the Question Is Actually Asking
A final subtlety in this cluster distinguishes two different questions that could easily be mistaken for one another: which fruit a person presently abides in, once a given elimination is complete, versus which fruit's own technical classification that elimination itself belongs to. The treatise's verdict insists the former is what is actually being asked throughout — a person who becomes free of the form realm's defilement and later attains non-returning is never described as having eliminated the great elements "under the classification of" that fruit, since non-returning is defined narrowly as covering only desire-realm cutting-off specifically.
捨根觸思識食已斷已遍知。當言住何果。答阿羅漢果。此中不說。
Once the equanimity faculty, contact, volition, and consciousness-as-nutriment have been cut off and fully understood, in what fruit should one be said to abide? Answer: the fruit of arhatship. Here, no mention is made
或無所住。所以者何。離非想非非想處染。最後無間道生爾時捨根三食究竟斷盡。最後解脫道時。此補特伽羅必住阿羅漢果。故餘師於此作別意釋。謂此意問四大種等已斷已遍知。當言何果攝。由此不說四大種等已斷遍知。住不還果先離色染。後入正性離生道類智時雖得不還果。而彼離繫非不還果攝。以不還果但攝見所斷。及欲界修所斷斷。為斷果故。評曰初說為善。所以者何。此中但問補特伽羅四大種等已斷遍知。得住何果不問果攝故。
— of "no fruit at all," for why is this? At the arising of the final uninterrupted path in becoming free of the sphere of neither-perception-nor-non-perception's defilement, the equanimity faculty and the three kinds of nutriment are already, at that very moment, completely and finally exhausted, and, at the final liberation-path, such a person necessarily already abides in the fruit of arhatship. Other masters, however, offer here a differently intended interpretation, holding that the actual question being asked is: once the great elements and the rest have been cut off and fully understood, under which fruit's own classification should this be subsumed? — and it is on this account that the case of one who first becomes free of the form realm's defilement and, upon later entering the certainty of correctness at the subsequent-knowledge of the path, though thereby attaining the fruit of non-returning, is not mentioned as having the great elements and the rest "cut off and fully understood, abiding in the fruit of non-returning" — since that freedom from bondage is not properly subsumed under the fruit of non-returning at all, the fruit of non-returning being defined only as subsuming what is cut off by insight together with what is cut off by cultivation within the desire realm specifically, as its own defining cut-off fruit. The verdict: the first account is the better one, for why is this? Because this passage asks only in which fruit a given person, having cut off and fully understood the great elements and the rest, should be said to abide — not which fruit's own classification this cutting-off is properly subsumed under.
Carefully distinguishing "which fruit does this person now abide in" from "which fruit's technical definition does this elimination fall under" prevents a subtle but consequential conflation: a person's overall spiritual attainment and the precise scope of one specific accomplishment's own definitional boundaries are shown to be two genuinely different questions, answerable independently of one another.
10. The Four Nutriments, and Whether Nourishment Ever Truly Transforms Anything
A substantial new topic closes the fascicle: the sūtra's account of the four nutriments — morsel-food, contact, volition, and consciousness — each nourishing the faculties and increasing the great elements. A subtle metaphysical puzzle then asks whether nourishment happens to an already-nourished dharma or a not-yet-nourished one, resolved by denying both options: rather, both possibilities already exist, dormant, within the future, and the nourishing condition simply causes the not-yet-nourished dharma to cease and the nourished one to arise in its place — nourishment as substitution, never literal transformation.
契經中說食有四種。一段食。二觸食。三意思食。四識食。云何段食。謂由麁細分段為緣。長養諸根。增益大種。云何觸意思識食。
The sūtra says that nutriment is of four kinds: morsel-nutriment, contact-nutriment, volition-nutriment, and consciousness-nutriment. What is morsel-nutriment? It is what, taking coarse or fine portions as its condition, nourishes the faculties and increases the great elements. What are contact-nutriment, volition-nutriment, and consciousness-nutriment?
謂有漏觸意思識為緣。長養諸根。增益大種。此中長養諸根者。顯長養諸法。增益大種者。顯異熟諸法。問諸根亦可增益有異熟故。
They are what, taking contaminated contact, volition, or consciousness as their condition, nourish the faculties and increase the great elements. Here, "nourishing the faculties" indicates dharmas that are nourished; "increasing the great elements" indicates dharmas that are ripening-fruits. Question: the faculties, too, may be said to be "increased," since they too have a ripening-fruit;
大種亦可長養有長養故。何故此中唯作是說。答諸根大種俱應作二種說。而不說者當知此義有餘。復次欲以種種文種種說。莊嚴於義令易解故。復次欲現二門二階二略二明二炬二影二光。互相顯示如根說。長養大種亦應爾。如大種說增益根亦應爾。由二門等互相影故。則所說理通文要義顯。
— and the great elements, too, may be said to be "nourished," since they too admit of nourishment — why, then, does this passage speak only in the way it does? Answer: both the faculties and the great elements ought properly to be described in both ways at once, and that this passage does not do so should be understood as a matter left with a further, supplementary account. Further, it is in order to adorn the meaning with a variety of wording and a variety of expression, making it easier to understand. Further, it is in order to display two mutually illuminating gateways, stages, summaries, lights, torches, shadows, and beams — just as "nourishing" is applied to the faculties, so too should "nourishing" apply to the great elements; and just as "increasing" is applied to the great elements, so too should "increasing" apply to the faculties — and it is through these paired gateways mutually illuminating one another that the underlying principle is shown to hold throughout, even where the wording, for brevity, makes the meaning only implicit.
問如所說長養增益。為於長益法長益。為於不長益法長益耶。若於長益法長益者。彼長益法復何長益。若於不長益法長益者。不長益法云何長益。答非於長益法長益。亦非於不長益法長益。然長益不長益法先住未來。若遇長益緣。則不長益法滅。長益法生。若遇不長益緣則長益法滅。不長益法生。雖無轉作而義俱立。
Question: as to this nourishing and increasing, does it occur to a dharma already nourished, or to one not yet nourished? If to a dharma already nourished, then what further nourishing does that dharma still require? But if to a dharma not yet nourished, how can what is not yet nourished undergo nourishing at all? Answer: it occurs neither to a dharma already nourished, nor to one not yet nourished. Rather, both the nourished and the not-yet-nourished dharma already exist within the future, and, when the condition for nourishment is met, the not-yet-nourished dharma ceases and the nourished dharma arises; when a condition against nourishment is met, the nourished dharma ceases and the not-yet-nourished dharma arises — and, though no literal transformation occurs, the sense of both nourishing and its absence is equally well established.
Resolving the nourishment puzzle by denying that any single dharma is ever literally transformed — replacing transformation with the substitution of one dormant future dharma for another — is a precise application of this tradition's own momentary, discrete view of existence: even something as seemingly continuous and gradual as a body being nourished over time turns out, on close analysis, to be a rapid sequence of distinct arisings and cessations, no single thing ever actually changing from one state into another.
11. Nourishing Without Being Nutriment: Why the Undefiled Never Qualifies
A rich set of counter-examples distinguishes genuine nutriment from mere nourishing effect: contact, volition, or consciousness belonging to a different realm, a different ground, or — most strikingly — the undefiled kind entirely, can all, as a matter of fact, nourish the faculties and increase the great elements, yet none of these earn the technical name "nutriment." The undefiled specifically is excluded through an extended, almost devotional contrast: nutriment sustains, perpetuates, and entrenches the entire cycle of suffering, craving, and rebirth, while the undefiled diminishes, severs, and dismantles that very cycle — and whatever nourishing effect the undefiled does have is only ever temporary, never capable of sustaining existence to any final completion.
問頗有有漏觸思識為緣。長養諸根。增益大種。而非食耶。答有。
Question: is there any contaminated contact, volition, or consciousness that, though it serves as a condition nourishing the faculties and increasing the great elements, is not itself nutriment? Answer: there is —
謂異界觸思識能長養增益諸根大種。問頗有同界觸思識為緣。長養諸根。增益大種。而非食耶。答有。謂異地觸思識能長養增益諸根大種。問頗有同地觸思識為緣。長養諸根。增益大種。而非食耶。
— namely, contact, volition, or consciousness belonging to a different realm, which is capable of nourishing the faculties and increasing the great elements. Question: is there any contact, volition, or consciousness belonging to the same realm that, though it serves as a condition nourishing the faculties and increasing the great elements, is not itself nutriment? Answer: there is — namely, contact, volition, or consciousness belonging to a different ground, which is capable of nourishing the faculties and increasing the great elements. Question: is there any contact, volition, or consciousness belonging to the same ground that, though it serves as a condition nourishing the faculties and increasing the great elements, is not itself nutriment?
答有。謂無漏觸思識。能長養增益諸根大種。問何故無漏不立食耶。答諸無漏法無食相故。又法現前增益諸有。攝受諸有。住持諸有。可說為食。無漏諸法。損減違害破壞諸有故不說食。又法現前連續諸有。連續老死能令生死輪轉無窮。可說為食。無漏諸法斷息諸有。斷息老死。能令生死不復輪轉故不說食。又法現前隨順苦集。隨順老死。能令生死諸有。世間流轉不息可說為食。無漏諸法隨順苦集滅。隨順老死滅能令生死諸有世間不復流轉故不說食。又法現前是身見事。是顛倒事。是貪愛事。是隨眠事。是貪瞋癡安立足處。有垢有毒。有穢有濁。有刺有怨。諸有所攝。墮苦集諦。可說為食。無漏諸法非身見事。非顛倒事。非貪愛事。非隨眠事。非貪瞋癡安立足處。無垢無毒。無穢無濁。無刺無怨。非諸有所攝。
Answer: there is — namely, undefiled contact, volition, and consciousness, which are capable of nourishing the faculties and increasing the great elements. Question: why is the undefiled not classed as nutriment? Answer: because undefiled dharmas lack the very mark of nutriment. Moreover, a dharma that, when manifest, increases, gathers in, and upholds continued existence may properly be called nutriment — but undefiled dharmas instead diminish, oppose, and dismantle continued existence, and hence are not called nutriment. Moreover, a dharma that, when manifest, perpetuates continued existence, perpetuates old age and death, causing the wheel of birth-and-death to turn without end, may properly be called nutriment — but undefiled dharmas instead sever and halt continued existence, sever and halt old age and death, causing birth-and-death to turn no more, and hence are not called nutriment. Moreover, a dharma that, when manifest, accords with suffering and its origin, accords with old age and death, causing the round of birth-and-death and worldly existence to flow on unceasing, may properly be called nutriment — but undefiled dharmas instead accord with the cessation of suffering and its origin, accord with the cessation of old age and death, causing the round of birth-and-death and worldly existence to flow on no more, and hence are not called nutriment. Moreover, a dharma that, when manifest, is the object of the view of a real self, the object of inverted views, the object of craving, the object of the underlying tendencies, the resting-place upon which greed, hatred, and delusion are established, tainted, poisonous, defiled, turbid, thorny, and hostile, subsumed within existence, falling within the truths of suffering and its origin, may properly be called nutriment — but undefiled dharmas are the object of none of these, are the resting-place of none of these, are neither tainted nor poisonous, neither defiled nor turbid, neither thorny nor hostile, and are not subsumed within existence at all,
不墮苦集諦故不說食。又無漏法不能究竟長養諸有。雖暫長養非究竟故不說為食。尊者妙音亦作是說。非無漏法長養諸有。雖暫長養而非究竟。終違有故不說為食。夫說為食終能長養。
— and hence, not falling within the truths of suffering and its origin, they are not called nutriment. Moreover, undefiled dharmas are incapable of nourishing existence to any ultimate completion — though they may nourish it temporarily, this is never final, and hence they are not called nutriment. The Venerable Ghoṣa likewise explains: it is not that undefiled dharmas fail to nourish existence at all — they may nourish it temporarily, yet never to any final completion, and, since they ultimately oppose existence itself, they are not called nutriment. For whatever is properly called nutriment must ultimately be capable of nourishing —
The insistence that the undefiled, though genuinely nourishing in a narrow physical sense, can never be called "nutriment" because it ultimately works against continued existence rather than for it, reveals that this category is defined less by its physical mechanism than by its moral and soteriological direction: true nutriment must be complicit in perpetuating the very suffering the path exists to end, which is precisely what disqualifies the path's own undefiled dharmas from qualifying, however much they happen to nourish the body along the way.
12. The Sixteen Real Entities Behind the Four Nutriments
Having established what counts as nutriment and what does not, the treatise specifies its precise substance: sixteen real entities in total, of which thirteen constitute morsel-food specifically (the eleven kinds of touch together with the smell and taste sense-fields), while contact, volition, and consciousness constitute the remaining three — mapped onto eleven elements, five sense-fields, and three aggregates within the broader classificatory framework.
問食體是何。答是十六事。於中十三事是段食體。即十一觸及香味處。觸思識三是餘食體。蘊界處攝者。是十一界五處三蘊少分所攝。十一界者。謂七心界。及香味觸法界。五處者。謂香味觸處。
— and, this being asked, the essential substance of nutriment is this: it consists of sixteen real entities, of which thirteen constitute the substance of morsel-nutriment — namely, the eleven kinds of touch together with the smell and taste sense-fields — while contact, volition, and consciousness constitute the substance of the remaining three kinds of nutriment. As to their inclusion within the aggregates, sense-fields, and elements: they are partially included within eleven elements, five sense-fields, and three aggregates. The eleven elements are the seven mind-elements together with the smell, taste, touch, and dharma elements. The five sense-fields are the smell, taste, and touch sense-fields,
意處。法處。三蘊者。謂色行識蘊。是謂四食自體。我物性相。
— the mind sense-field, and the dharma sense-field. The three aggregates are the aggregates of form, formation, and consciousness. This, then, is the essential substance, own-nature, and characteristic of the four nutriments.
Reducing something as universally familiar as "eating" down to a precise enumeration of thirteen specific real entities, mapped exactly onto the standard elements-sense-fields-aggregates framework, is characteristic of this tradition's insistence that no ordinary human activity, however mundane, escapes the same rigorous analytical treatment given to the most abstract metaphysical categories.
13. Why Called 'Nutriment' at All? And a Closing Threefold Division
The fascicle closes with etymology: these four factors earn the name "nutriment" through their especially strong, proximate capacity to draw forth, continue, sustain, generate, nourish, and increase existence — a judgment several masters agree only the Buddha himself, having fully realized every dharma's true characteristics and functions, was competent to make, since every dharma with outflow could in principle qualify to some lesser degree. A final classificatory note offers nutriment's two basic aspects — drawing forth future existence, and sustaining present existence — alongside an alternative threefold division into karma-nutriment (volition), birth-nutriment (consciousness), and nourishment-nutriment (morsel-food together with contact).
已說自體。所以今當說。何故名食。食是何義。答牽有義是食義。
Having explained their essential substance, we should now explain why they are called "nutriment." What is the meaning of "nutriment"? Answer: the sense of drawing forth existence is the sense of nutriment;
續有義。持有義。生有義。養有義。增有義。是食義。此四於有能牽。乃至能增故名為食。問若牽有。乃至增有是食義者。諸有漏法皆應名食。何故但說四耶。脇尊者言。唯佛世尊究竟了達諸法性相。亦知勢用非餘能知。若法有食相作用可立食者。即便立之。無者不立。尊者世友作如是言。此是世尊有餘之說。略說影說有觀待說。佛觀化宜而說法故。尊者妙音說曰。佛知此四牽有續有持有生有養有增有體相勢用。強盛隣近故立為食。餘法不爾故不說食。有餘師言。如是四法極能長養諸界趣生老死世間。令其流轉故立為食。餘則不爾。或有說者。食有二相。一牽引當有令現在前。二任持今有令相續住。有餘師說。食有三種。一者業食。二者生食。三者長養食。業食謂思。生食謂識。長養食者。謂段與觸。
— so too are the senses of continuing existence, sustaining existence, generating existence, nourishing existence, and increasing existence. It is because these four factors are capable of drawing forth, continuing, sustaining, generating, nourishing, and increasing existence that they are called "nutriment." Question: if drawing forth existence, and so on up through increasing existence, is the sense of nutriment, then every dharma with outflow ought to be called nutriment — why, then, is only these four so named? The Venerable Pārśva says: only the Buddha, the World-Honored One, has thoroughly and completely realized the true characteristics of all dharmas, and knows their function as well, a knowledge beyond any other's reach — and, whatever dharma bears the mark and function of nutriment, he establishes as such, and whatever does not, he does not so establish. The Venerable Vasumitra explains it this way: this is one of the World-Honored One's own supplementary teachings, spoken briefly, allusively, and dependent on context, since the Buddha teaches the Dharma with regard to what is fitting for those he converts. The Venerable Ghoṣa explains: the Buddha knows that these four factors' capacity to draw forth, continue, sustain, generate, nourish, and increase existence, in their very essential nature, characteristic, and function, is especially strong and proximate, and hence establishes them as "nutriment" — other dharmas being otherwise, and hence not so called. Other masters say: it is because these four factors are especially capable of sustaining every realm, destiny, birth, old age, and death of the world, causing it to continue turning, that they are established as "nutriment" — other dharmas being otherwise. Others say: nutriment carries, in general, two aspects — first, drawing forth a future existence to make it presently manifest; and second, sustaining a presently-existing existence to keep it continuing. Other masters say: nutriment is of three kinds — karma-nutriment, birth-nutriment, and nourishment-nutriment. Karma-nutriment means volition; birth-nutriment means consciousness; and nourishment-nutriment means morsel-food together with contact.
Attributing the precise boundary of "nutriment" entirely to the Buddha's own unique competence — rather than to any derivable rule available to lesser beings — is a candid admission that this category's own edges are ultimately a matter of authoritative judgment rather than logical necessity: the treatise can explain why these four factors deserve the name once told, but concedes that discovering the boundary in the first place required an insight no ordinary reasoning could have supplied on its own.
Fascicle 129 Complete
This closes fascicle 129 of Ru-Yi's translation, drawn from the treatise's true CBETA boundary. Fascicle 129 continues the Great-Elements-and-Derivatives Nyāsa (大造納息第一之三): the beloved narrative of the monk Aśvajit's quest through every heaven to learn where the four great elements ultimately cease, the Buddha's reframing of the question through the parable of the bird that cannot find the edge of the sky, a precise technical mapping of which absorption eliminates which physical and mental factor, and a substantial closing account of the four nutriments — morsel-food, contact, volition, and consciousness — and why the undefiled, though nourishing, can never earn that name. Fascicle 130 continues within this same nyāsa.