Aṅguttara Nikāya · Discourse 5.192

With the Brahmin Doṇa

Doṇabrāhmaṇasutta — Brāhmaṇavagga — the twentieth chapter of the Fives

Setting
None stated; the discourse continues from AN 5.1, whose setting at Sāvatthī in Jeta’s Grove is understood to hold
Speakers
The Buddha, in dialogue with the brahmin Doṇa
Form
extended dialogue, then a five-category typology
Length
~7 minutes to read
Northern parallel
not identified in this collection
Difficulty
★★★☆☆ — long and dense, this chapter's centerpiece

Why this discourse

One of this collection's most extensive discourses: challenged by a proud brahmin over a point of etiquette, the Buddha lays out five distinct kinds of brahmin — from one genuinely equal to the Divinity down to a self-interested ‘brahmin corpse-worker’ — and asks Doṇa, point blank, which one he actually is.

Reading guide

Doṇa's complaint, and the Buddha's question

Doṇa objects that the Buddha doesn't show elderly brahmins the customary respect — bowing, rising, offering a seat. The Buddha turns the question back on him: does Doṇa even claim brahmin status himself? Doṇa answers proudly, citing his flawless lineage and mastery of the Vedas. The Buddha then asks whether Doṇa knows the five kinds of brahmin the ancient seers themselves described — and Doṇa admits he doesn't, asking to be taught.

Equal to the Divinity, equal to a god

The first kind, brahmasama, studies the Vedas for the traditional forty-eight years, earns his teacher's fee only by begging — never farming, trade, or other forbidden work — then renounces entirely, developing the four brahmavihāras (love, compassion, joy, equanimity) and being reborn in a brahma-realm. The second, devasama, takes the same disciplined path but marries properly within strict traditional bounds, has children out of duty rather than pleasure, then renounces and attains the four absorptions, reborn in a heavenly realm.

Toes the line, crosses the line

The third, mariyāda (‘one who toes the line’), follows the same disciplined preparation but, attached to the pleasure of having a child, simply stays a householder within traditional bounds. The fourth, sambhinnamariyāda (‘one who crosses the line’), abandons every traditional restriction — marrying and having sex across caste and purity lines the tradition itself forbids, purely for pleasure.

The brahmin corpse-worker

The fifth and lowest, brāhmaṇacaṇḍāla — literally ‘brahmin corpse-worker’, borrowing the same stigmatized occupational term already seen at AN 5.175 and, quite differently, at AN 5.179 — abandons every restriction on livelihood too, earning a living however he can while still claiming brahmin status, rationalizing this with a simile: fire burns both pure and filthy things without being corrupted by either.

Doṇa's admission

Asked directly which of the five he is, Doṇa's answer is genuinely humbling: he doesn't even qualify as the lowest category, the brahmin corpse-worker — and, deflated of his opening pride, takes lifelong refuge as a lay follower.

A fourth appearance of a recurring, contested term

Cross-ref this discourse's use of caṇḍāla alongside AN 5.175 (used as an outright insult for a bad lay Buddhist) and AN 5.179 (named inclusively, as a caste whose members can equally attain liberation). Here the term is turned, pointedly, inward — used by brahmin tradition itself to name its own worst failure.

Key terms

brahmasama, devasama — “equal to the Divinity, equal to a god” — the first two, genuinely praiseworthy kinds of brahmin in this discourse's typology.
mariyāda, sambhinnamariyāda — “one who toes the line, one who crosses the line” — the third and fourth kinds, respectively still bound by and abandoning traditional restriction.
brāhmaṇacaṇḍāla — “brahmin corpse-worker” — the fifth and lowest kind, using the same stigmatized term seen at AN 5.175 and AN 5.179.
brahmavihāra — the four divine abodes — love, compassion, joy, equanimity — cultivated by the first kind of brahmin in this typology.
ubhato sujāto — “well born on both sides” — the traditional lineage standard Doṇa cites to claim brahmin status.

The text

The discourse in full: Doṇa's complaint, the five kinds of brahmin, and Doṇa's own admission. Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato (CC0, SuttaCentral).

Doṇa's complaint, and the Buddha's question

§1“Worthy Gotama, I have heard that the ascetic Gotama doesn’t bow to old brahmins, the elderly and senior, who are advanced in years and have reached the final stage of life; nor does he rise in their presence or offer them a seat. And this is indeed the case, for the worthy Gotama does not bow to old brahmins, elderly and senior, who are advanced in years and have reached the final stage of life; nor does he rise in their presence or offer them a seat. This is not appropriate, worthy Gotama.” “Doṇa, do you too claim to be a brahmin?” “Worthy Gotama, if anyone should be rightly called a brahmin, it’s me. For I am well born on both my mother’s and father’s side, of pure descent, with irrefutable and impeccable genealogy back to the seventh paternal generation. I recite and remember the hymns, and have mastered the three Vedas, together with their vocabularies and ritual performance, their phonology and word classification, and the testaments as fifth. I know them word-by-word, and their grammar. I am well versed in cosmology and the marks of a great man.” “Doṇa, the ancient brahmin seers were Aṭṭhaka, Vāmaka, Vāmadeva, Vessāmitta, Yamadaggi, Aṅgīrasa, Bhāradvāja, Vāseṭṭha, Kassapa, and Bhagu. They were the authors and propagators of the hymns, whose hymnal was sung and propagated and compiled in ancient times. These days, brahmins continue to sing and chant it. They continue chanting what was chanted, rehearsing what was rehearsed, and teaching what was taught. Those seers described five kinds of brahmins. A brahmin who is equal to the Divinity, one who is equal to a god, one who toes the line, one who crosses the line, and the fifth is a brahmin corpse-worker. Which one of these are you, Doṇa?” “Worthy Gotama, we don’t know about these five kinds of brahmins. We just know the word ‘brahmin’. Worthy Gotama, please teach me this matter so I can learn about these five brahmins.” “Well then, brahmin, listen and apply your mind well, I will speak.” “Yes, worthy sir,” Doṇa replied. The Buddha said this:

Equal to the Divinity, equal to a god

§2“Doṇa, how is a brahmin equal to the Divinity? It’s when a brahmin is well born on both the mother’s and the father’s sides, coming from a clean womb back to the seventh paternal generation, with irrefutable and impeccable genealogy. For forty-eight years he leads the boy’s spiritual life studying the hymns. Then he seeks a fee for his tutor, but only by legitimate means, not illegitimate. In this context, Doṇa, what is legitimate? Not by farming, trade, raising cattle, archery, government service, or one of the professions, but solely by living on alms, not scorning the alms bowl. Having offered the fee to his tutor, he shaves off his hair and beard, dresses in ocher robes, and goes forth from the lay life to homelessness. Then they meditate spreading a heart full of love to one direction, and to the second, and to the third, and to the fourth. In the same way above, below, across, everywhere, all around, they spread a heart full of love to the whole world—abundant, expansive, limitless, free of enmity and ill will. They meditate spreading a heart full of compassion … rejoicing … equanimity to one direction, and to the second, and to the third, and to the fourth. In the same way above, below, across, everywhere, all around, they spread a heart full of equanimity to the whole world—abundant, expansive, limitless, free of enmity and ill will. Having developed these four divine meditations, when the body breaks up, after death, they’re reborn in a good place, a realm of divinity. That’s how a brahmin is equal to the Divinity. And how is a brahmin equal to a god? It’s when a brahmin is well born on both the mother’s and the father’s sides … Having offered the fee to his tutor, he seeks a wife, but only by legitimate means, not illegitimate. In this context, Doṇa, what is legitimate? Not by buying or selling, he only accepts a brahmin woman by the pouring of water. He has sex only with a brahmin woman. He does not have sex with a woman from a family of aristocrats, peasants, menials, corpse-workers, hunters, bamboo-workers, chariot-makers, or scavengers. Nor does he have sex with women who are pregnant, breastfeeding, or outside the fertile phase of the menstrual cycle. And why does the brahmin not have sex with a pregnant woman? If a brahmin had sex with a pregnant woman, the boy or girl would be born in too much filth. That’s why the brahmin doesn’t have sex with a pregnant woman. And why does the brahmin not have sex with a breastfeeding woman? If a brahmin had sex with a breastfeeding woman, the boy or girl would drink back the semen. That’s why the brahmin doesn’t have sex with a breastfeeding woman. And why does the brahmin not have sex outside the fertile phase of the menstrual cycle? Because his brahmin wife is not there for sensual pleasure, fun, and enjoyment, but only for procreation. Having ensured his progeny through sex, he shaves off his hair and beard, dresses in ocher robes, and goes forth from the lay life to homelessness. When he has gone forth, quite secluded from sensual pleasures, secluded from unskillful qualities, he enters and remains in the first absorption … second absorption … third absorption … fourth absorption. Having developed these four absorptions, when the body breaks up, after death, they’re reborn in a good place, a heavenly realm. That’s how a brahmin is equal to god.

Toes the line, crosses the line

§3And how does a brahmin toe the line? It’s when a brahmin is well born on both the mother’s and the father’s sides … Not by buying or selling, he only accepts a brahmin woman by the pouring of water. Having ensured his progeny through sex, his child makes him happy. Because of this attachment he stays in his family property, and does not go forth from the lay life to homelessness. As far as the line of the ancient brahmins extends, he doesn’t cross over it. That’s why he’s called a brahmin who toes the line. That’s how a brahmin toes the line. And how does a brahmin cross the line? It’s when a brahmin is well born on both the mother’s and the father’s sides … Having offered a fee for his tutor, he seeks a wife by both legitimate and illegitimate means. That is, by buying or selling, as well as accepting a brahmin woman by the pouring of water. He has sex with a brahmin woman, as well as with a woman from a family of aristocrats, peasants, menials, corpse-workers, hunters, bamboo workers, chariot-makers, or scavengers. And he has sex with women who are pregnant, breastfeeding, or outside the fertile phase of the menstrual cycle. His brahmin wife is there for sensual pleasure, fun, and enjoyment, as well as for procreation. As far as the line of the ancient brahmins extends, he crosses over it. That’s why he’s called a brahmin who crosses the line. That’s how a brahmin crosses the line.

The brahmin corpse-worker

§4And how is a brahmin a brahmin corpse-worker? It’s when a brahmin is well born on both the mother’s and the father’s sides, coming from a clean womb back to the seventh paternal generation, with irrefutable and impeccable genealogy. For forty-eight years he leads the virginal spiritual life studying the hymns. Then he seeks a fee for his tutor by legitimate means and illegitimate means. By farming, trade, raising cattle, archery, government service, or one of the professions, not solely by living on alms, not scorning the alms bowl. Having offered a fee for his tutor, he seeks a wife by both legitimate and illegitimate means. That is, by buying or selling, as well as accepting a brahmin woman by the pouring of water. He has sex with a brahmin woman, as well as with a woman from a family of aristocrats, peasants, menials, corpse-workers, hunters, bamboo workers, chariot-makers, or scavengers. And he has sex with women who are pregnant, breastfeeding, or outside the fertile phase of the menstrual cycle. His brahmin wife is there for sensual pleasure, fun, and enjoyment, as well as for procreation. He earns a living by any kind of work. The brahmins say to him, ‘My good man, why is it that you claim to be a brahmin, but you earn a living by any kind of work?’ He says, ‘It’s like a fire that burns both pure and filthy things, but doesn’t become corrupted by them. In the same way, mister, if a brahmin earns a living by any kind of work, he is not corrupted by that.’ A brahmin is called a brahmin corpse-worker because he earns a living by any kind of work. That’s how a brahmin is a brahmin corpse-worker.

Doṇa's admission

§5Doṇa, the ancient brahmin seers were Aṭṭhaka, Vāmaka, Vāmadeva, Vessāmitta, Yamadaggi, Aṅgīrasa, Bhāradvāja, Vāseṭṭha, Kassapa, and Bhagu. They were the authors and propagators of the hymns, whose hymnal was sung and propagated and compiled in ancient times. These days, brahmins continue to sing and chant it. They continue chanting what was chanted, rehearsing what was rehearsed, and teaching what was taught. Those seers described five kinds of brahmins. A brahmin who is equal to the Divinity, one who is equal to a god, one who toes the line, one who crosses the line, and the fifth is a brahmin corpse-worker. Which one of these are you, Doṇa?” “This being so, worthy Gotama, I don’t even qualify as a brahmin corpse-worker. Excellent, worthy Gotama! … From this day forth, may the worthy Gotama remember me as a lay follower who has gone for refuge for life.”

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Self-check quiz

Ten questions. Click an answer to see immediate feedback. No score is recorded — this is for your own checking.

Question 1 of 10
What does Doṇa initially complain about?
Correct: A. A complaint about customary etiquette toward elders.
Question 2 of 10
How does the Buddha respond to Doṇa's complaint?
Correct: A. Turning the question back toward what genuinely constitutes a brahmin.
Question 3 of 10
What does the first kind of brahmin, brahmasama, cultivate after renouncing?
Correct: A. Reborn in a brahma-realm as a result.
Question 4 of 10
What distinguishes the second kind, devasama, from the first?
Correct: A. A householder path, still within strict traditional discipline.
Question 5 of 10
What distinguishes 'one who crosses the line' from 'one who toes the line'?
Correct: A. The fourth kind versus the third in this discourse's typology.
Question 6 of 10
What does the 'brahmin corpse-worker' rationalize his conduct with?
Correct: A. Earning a living however he can, while still claiming the title.
Question 7 of 10
Which category does Doṇa admit he qualifies for, when asked directly?
Correct: A. A genuinely humbling admission, following his opening pride.
Question 8 of 10
What does Doṇa do after this admission?
Correct: A. A deflated but genuine response to the Buddha's typology.
Question 9 of 10
Where else in this nipāta does the term 'caṇḍāla' appear, used very differently each time?
Correct: A. A fourth, pointedly self-critical use of the same term here.
Question 10 of 10
Who are the ten ancient brahmin seers named as the source of this five-kind typology?
Correct: A. The traditional Vedic ṛṣis, cited as the typology's original authors.
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