Aṅguttara Nikāya · Discourse 8.77

Desires

Icchāsutta — Yamakavagga — the eighth chapter of the Eights

Setting
None stated in the source
Speakers
Venerable Sāriputta, addressing the mendicants directly
Form
The identical combinatorial matrix of eight individuals as AN 8.61, now delivered by Sāriputta rather than the Buddha
Length
~3 minutes to read
The same content, an independent voice
Every word of this discourse's eight individuals matches AN 8.61, but the speaker has changed entirely — Sāriputta teaches this content on his own authority, not relaying the Buddha's own words in this instance
Difficulty
★★☆☆☆ — identical in content to AN 8.61, notable chiefly for its change of speaker

Why this discourse

Sāriputta addresses the mendicants directly and teaches, word for word, the same eight individuals AN 8.61 attributed to the Buddha — crossing whether a secluded mendicant tries for material things, whether those things come, and whether the reaction is sorrow, indulgence, or equanimity.

Reading guide

The teaching in one sentence

Sāriputta teaches the identical eight individuals as AN 8.61, in the Buddha's absence and on his own authority: only reaction — sorrow or indulgence versus equanimity — determines whether a mendicant desiring material things has fallen from the true teaching, regardless of whether they tried for those things or received them.

A word-for-word match, differing only in speaker

Every one of the eight cases, every phrase describing effort, outcome, and reaction, and the closing summary all match AN 8.61 precisely. The only substantive change across the two discourses is who is speaking: the Buddha at AN 8.61, Sāriputta here, addressing his fellow mendicants directly as “reverends.”

A senior disciple teaching independently

This discourse belongs to a small group in this book where Sāriputta, the Buddha's foremost disciple in wisdom, teaches content elsewhere attributed to the Buddha himself, without any indication that he is merely relaying or repeating a teaching he received — a marker of the kind of independent teaching authority senior disciples are shown exercising in this literature.

Why repetition without variation still matters

Unlike most paired discourses in this book, which vary some detail between repetitions, this pairing varies nothing in content at all — making the discourse's real interest not what is taught, already covered fully at AN 8.61, but that it can be taught this precisely by someone other than the Buddha.

Key terms

sāriputto — Venerable Sāriputta, this discourse's own speaker, addressing his fellow mendicants as “reverends” rather than the Buddha's own “mendicants.”
āvuso, bhikkhave — “reverends, mendicants” — Sāriputta's own form of address, distinct from the Buddha's own opening formula at AN 8.61.
aṭṭha puggalā santo saṁvijjamānā lokasmiṁ — “these eight individuals are found in the world” — the identical opening formula as AN 8.61, now spoken by Sāriputta.
socati kilamati paridevati — “sorrows and wails and laments” — the same bad-reaction phrase as AN 8.61, unchanged across every one of its four occurrences in this discourse.
cuto ariyassa dhammavinayā — “fallen from the true teaching” — the identical verdict as AN 8.61, applied to the same four combinations of effort and outcome paired with bad reaction.

The text

The discourse in full: Sāriputta's own teaching of the same eight individuals as AN 8.61. Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato (CC0, SuttaCentral).

Sāriputta addresses the mendicants

§1There Sāriputta addressed the mendicants: “Reverends, mendicants!” “Reverend,” they replied. Sāriputta said this: “Reverends, these eight individuals are found in the world. What eight?

Four individuals who have fallen from the true teaching

§2First, when a mendicant stays secluded, living independently, a desire arises for material things. They try hard, strive, and make an effort to get them. But material things don’t come to them. And so they sorrow and wail and lament, beating their breast and falling into confusion because they don’t get those material things. This is called a mendicant who lives desiring material things. They try hard, strive, and make an effort to get them. But when they do not acquire material things, they sorrow and lament. They’ve fallen from the true teaching. Next, when a mendicant stays secluded, living independently, a desire arises for material things. They try hard, strive, and make an effort to get them. And material things do come to them. And so they become indulgent and fall into negligence regarding those material things. This is called a mendicant who lives desiring material things. They try hard, strive, and make an effort to get them. And when they acquire material things, they become intoxicated and negligent. They’ve fallen from the true teaching. Next, when a mendicant stays secluded, living independently, a desire arises for material things. They don’t try hard, strive, and make an effort to get them. And material things don’t come to them. And so they sorrow and wail and lament, beating their breast and falling into confusion because they don’t get those material things. This is called a mendicant who lives desiring material things. They don’t try hard, strive, and make an effort to get them. But when they do not acquire material things, they sorrow and lament. They’ve fallen from the true teaching. Next, when a mendicant stays secluded, living independently, a desire arises for material things. They don’t try hard, strive, and make an effort to get them. But material things do come to them. And so they become indulgent and fall into negligence regarding those material things. This is called a mendicant who lives desiring material things. They don’t try hard, strive, and make an effort to get them. But when they acquire material things, they become intoxicated and negligent. They’ve fallen from the true teaching.

Four individuals who have not fallen

§3Next, when a mendicant stays secluded, living independently, a desire arises for material things. They try hard, strive, and make an effort to get them. But material things don’t come to them. But they don’t sorrow and wail and lament, beating their breast and falling into confusion because they don’t get those material things. This is called a mendicant who lives desiring material things. They try hard, strive, and make an effort to get them. But when they do not acquire material things, they don’t sorrow and lament. They haven’t fallen from the true teaching. Next, when a mendicant stays secluded, living independently, a desire arises for material things. They try hard, strive, and make an effort to get them. And material things do come to them. But they don’t become indulgent and fall into negligence regarding those material things. This is called a mendicant who lives desiring material things. They try hard, strive, and make an effort to get them. But when they acquire material things, they don’t become intoxicated and negligent. They haven’t fallen from the true teaching. Next, when a mendicant stays secluded, living independently, a desire arises for material things. They don’t try hard, strive, and make an effort to get them. And material things don’t come to them. But they don’t sorrow and wail and lament, beating their breast and falling into confusion because they don’t get those material things. This is called a mendicant who lives desiring material things. They don’t try hard, strive, and make an effort to get them. And when they do not acquire material things, they don’t sorrow and lament. They haven’t fallen from the true teaching. Next, when a mendicant stays secluded, living independently, a desire arises for material things. They don’t try hard, strive, and make an effort to get them. But material things do come to them. But they don’t become indulgent and fall into negligence regarding those material things. This is called a mendicant who lives desiring material things. They don’t try hard, strive, and make an effort to get them. And when they acquire material things, they don’t become intoxicated and negligent. They haven’t fallen from the true teaching. These eight individuals are found in the world.”

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Self-check quiz

6 questions. Click an answer to see immediate feedback. No score is recorded — this is for your own checking.

Question 1 of 6
How does this discourse's content compare to AN 8.61's?
Correct: B. The only substantive change across the two discourses is the speaker.
Question 2 of 6
Who teaches this discourse's content, unlike AN 8.61?
Correct: B. A senior disciple teaching independently, not relaying the Buddha's words as a report.
Question 3 of 6
What form of address does Sāriputta use, distinct from the Buddha's own?
Correct: B. A marker of a fellow-mendicant speaking to peers, distinct from the Buddha's own opening formula.
Question 4 of 6
According to the guide, what makes this discourse's real interest, given the identical content?
Correct: B. A marker of independent teaching authority, not new content.
Question 5 of 6
What determines whether a mendicant in this discourse has fallen from the true teaching?
Correct: B. The identical determining variable as AN 8.61.
Question 6 of 6
Is a setting given for this discourse?
Correct: C. A bare formula, matching AN 8.61's own lack of a stated setting.
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