Majjhima Nikāya · Discourse 45

The Shorter Discourse on Taking Up Practices

Cūḷadhammasamādānasutta

Setting
Sāvatthī, in Jeta’s Grove, Anāthapiṇḍika’s monastery
Speakers
The Buddha and the monks
Form
Teaching to monks — four ways of taking up practices, analyzed by whether they are pleasant or painful now and whether they ripen in pleasure or pain. Each is illustrated with a vivid simile.
Length
~10 minutes to read
Northern parallel
MĀ 174 (Madhyama-āgama 174)
Difficulty
★★☆☆☆ — accessible and practical. The four-cell matrix is easy to grasp and the similes are memorable. A good discourse for anyone evaluating their own choices and habits.

Why this discourse, forty-fifth

After the deep doctrinal investigations of MN 43–44, the collection turns to practical wisdom. MN 45 asks a question that every person faces: when you take up a practice or way of living, how do you evaluate whether it is truly good for you? The Buddha’s answer is a 2×2 matrix — four possibilities defined by two axes: is the practice pleasant or painful now, and does it ripen in pleasure or pain later?

The framework is deceptively simple. Most people evaluate their choices by how they feel right now. The Buddha insists on a second axis: how will this choice feel when its consequences mature? A practice that is pleasant now but ripens in pain is like a beautiful drink laced with poison. A practice that is painful now but ripens in pleasure is like bitter medicine that cures a disease. The wise person looks at both dimensions; the unwise looks only at the first.

MN 45 is the “shorter” version; MN 46 is the “longer,” elaborating the same framework with more detailed examples. Together they form the third pair in the Cūḷayamakavagga.

Reading guide

The teaching in one sentence

There are four ways of taking up a practice — pleasant now and painful later, painful now and pleasant later, painful now and painful later, pleasant now and pleasant later — and the wise person chooses by looking at the long-term result, not the immediate feeling.

The four-cell matrix

Ripens in painRipens in pleasure
Painful nowType 1: Painful now, painful later. The worst choice — like a bitter gourd cup of poison.Type 3: Painful now, pleasant later. Wise discipline — like bitter medicine that cures.
Pleasant nowType 2: Pleasant now, painful later. The trap — like a sweet drink laced with poison.Type 4: Pleasant now, pleasant later. The ideal — like honey, ghee, and sugar.

The four similes

Type 1 — Bitter gourd cup of poison. A practice that is painful now and ripens in pain. The example is someone who practises painful austerities out of delusion — going naked, refusing food, following extreme self-mortification — and who, because of wrong view, is reborn in a bad destination. The practice hurts now and leads to suffering later. The simile: a bitter gourd cup mixed with poison. It tastes terrible and it kills you.

Type 2 — Sweet drink laced with poison. A practice that is pleasant now but ripens in pain. The example is someone who kills, steals, lies, and indulges in sensual pleasures — enjoying them in the moment — but who, because of those unwholesome actions, is reborn in a bad destination. The simile: a bronze cup of beautifully colored, fragrant, delicious drink — mixed with poison. It tastes wonderful, but after drinking it, one meets with death or deadly pain.

Type 3 — Bitter medicine. A practice that is painful now but ripens in pleasure. The example is someone who, with difficulty, abstains from the unwholesome courses of action, endures painful feelings, and practises restraint. The practice is hard — but because of those wholesome actions, one is reborn in a good destination. The simile: fermented urine mixed with various medicines. It is disgusting to drink, but after drinking it, one recovers from illness.

Type 4 — Honey, ghee, and sugar. A practice that is pleasant now and ripens in pleasure. The example is someone who naturally and joyfully practises the wholesome path — experiencing happiness in ethical conduct, happiness in meditation, happiness in wisdom — and who is reborn in a good destination or attains liberation. The simile: honey, ghee, and sugar mixed together. It is delicious to taste and nourishing afterward.

The practical insight

The discourse’s central warning is about Type 2: the practice that is pleasant now but painful later. This is the most dangerous because it is the most seductive. The Buddha is not arguing that all pleasure is bad — Type 4 is both pleasant and beneficial. He is arguing that immediate pleasantness is not a reliable indicator of long-term value. The person who evaluates choices only by how they feel in the moment is like someone who drinks from a beautiful cup without asking whether the drink is poisoned.

Conversely, Type 3 is the most counterintuitive: something that feels difficult or painful now may ripen in happiness. The wise person is willing to endure present discomfort for future well-being — not because suffering is virtuous, but because they can see the long-term result. This is the logic behind all training, whether spiritual or mundane: the athlete who endures painful practice, the student who sits through difficult study, the meditator who faces restlessness and boredom.

But the highest aspiration is Type 4: a practice that is pleasant in the doing and pleasant in its result. The Buddha does not teach that the spiritual path must always be painful. As practice matures, ethical conduct becomes natural, meditation becomes joyful, and wisdom brings ease. The goal is not to move from Type 2 to Type 3 and stop there, but to arrive at Type 4 — where the practice itself is a source of happiness.

Key terms

dhammasamādāna — taking up a practice; undertaking a way of life. The compound dhamma + samādāna means literally “taking up a principle” — adopting a practice or way of living as one’s own.
dukkha — pain; suffering; unsatisfactoriness. In this discourse, used in its ordinary sense of “painful, unpleasant” rather than in the deeper sense of the first noble truth. A practice that is dukkha now simply feels difficult or unpleasant in the doing.
sukha — pleasure; happiness; ease. The opposite of dukkha. A practice that is sukha now feels pleasant, agreeable, and easy.
vipāka — result; ripening; fruit. The long-term consequence of a practice. The Buddha’s point is that vipāka — the result that matures over time — is more important than the immediate feeling.
visa — poison. Used in two of the four similes: the bitter gourd cup of poison (Type 1) and the sweet drink laced with poison (Type 2). Poison represents harm that may be invisible at the moment of consumption but becomes fatal as it takes effect.
bhesajja — medicine. Used in the simile for Type 3: fermented urine mixed with medicine. It is repulsive to consume but cures illness. Medicine represents a practice whose value is in its long-term effect, not in the experience of taking it.

The text

MN 45 is concise and structured around four parallel descriptions. The four types are given in full with their similes. Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato (CC0, SuttaCentral).

Setting

§1So I have heard. At one time the Buddha was staying near Sāvatthī, in Jeta’s Grove, Anāthapiṇḍika’s monastery.

§2There the Buddha addressed the monks: “Monks!” “Venerable sir,” they replied. The Buddha said:

“Monks, there are these four ways of taking up practices. What four?

Type 1: Painful now, painful later

§3“There is a taking up of a practice that is painful now and ripens in pain. There is a taking up of a practice that is pleasant now but ripens in pain. There is a taking up of a practice that is painful now but ripens in pleasure. And there is a taking up of a practice that is pleasant now and ripens in pleasure.”

§4“And what is the taking up of a practice that is painful now and ripens in pain? Here, someone in pain and sadness kills living beings, and because of killing they experience pain and sadness. In pain and sadness they take what is not given … commit sexual misconduct … speak falsely … speak divisively … speak harshly … engage in idle chatter … are covetous … have ill will … hold wrong view, and because of wrong view they experience pain and sadness.”

“When the body breaks up, after death, they are reborn in a place of loss, a bad place, the lower world, hell. This is the taking up of a practice that is painful now and ripens in pain.”

Type 2: Pleasant now, painful later

§5“And what is the taking up of a practice that is pleasant now but ripens in pain? Here, someone in pleasure and happiness kills living beings, and because of killing they experience pleasure and happiness. In pleasure and happiness they take what is not given … commit sexual misconduct … speak falsely … speak divisively … speak harshly … engage in idle chatter … are covetous … have ill will … hold wrong view, and because of wrong view they experience pleasure and happiness.”

“When the body breaks up, after death, they are reborn in a place of loss, a bad place, the lower world, hell. This is the taking up of a practice that is pleasant now but ripens in pain.”

Type 3: Painful now, pleasant later

§6“And what is the taking up of a practice that is painful now but ripens in pleasure? Here, someone in pain and sadness refrains from killing living beings, and because of refraining they experience pain and sadness. In pain and sadness they refrain from taking what is not given … from sexual misconduct … from false speech … from divisive speech … from harsh speech … from idle chatter … from covetousness … from ill will … from wrong view, and because of refraining they experience pain and sadness.”

“When the body breaks up, after death, they are reborn in a good place, a heavenly realm. This is the taking up of a practice that is painful now but ripens in pleasure.”

Type 4: Pleasant now, pleasant later

§7“And what is the taking up of a practice that is pleasant now and ripens in pleasure? Here, someone in pleasure and happiness refrains from killing living beings, and because of refraining they experience pleasure and happiness. In pleasure and happiness they refrain from taking what is not given … from sexual misconduct … from false speech … from divisive speech … from harsh speech … from idle chatter … from covetousness … from ill will … from wrong view, and because of refraining they experience pleasure and happiness.”

“When the body breaks up, after death, they are reborn in a good place, a heavenly realm. This is the taking up of a practice that is pleasant now and ripens in pleasure.”

The four similes

§8“Suppose there was a bitter gourd cup mixed with poison. A man who loved life and did not want to die, who loved happiness and recoiled from suffering, were told: ‘Drink this — if you drink it, you will meet death or deadly pain.’ Knowing this, he would not drink it. So too is the taking up of a practice that is painful now and ripens in pain. When a person understands this, they do not take it up.”

§9“Suppose there was a bronze cup of a drink that was beautifully colored, fragrant, and delicious, but mixed with poison. A man who loved life were told: ‘Drink this if you wish — you will find it beautiful in color, fragrance, and taste. But if you drink it, you will meet death or deadly pain.’ Not understanding this, he might drink it. So too is the taking up of a practice that is pleasant now but ripens in pain. When a person does not understand this, they take it up; when they do understand, they do not.”

§10“Suppose there was fermented urine mixed with various medicines. A man who was ill were told: ‘Drink this fermented urine mixed with medicines — if you drink it, you will find it disgusting in color, smell, and taste, but after drinking it you will recover.’ Understanding this, he would drink it. So too is the taking up of a practice that is painful now but ripens in pleasure. When a person understands this, they take it up.”

§11“Suppose there was honey, ghee, and sugar mixed together. A man who was ill were told: ‘Drink this mixture of honey, ghee, and sugar — if you drink it, you will find it delicious in color, smell, and taste, and after drinking it you will recover.’ Understanding this, he would drink it. So too is the taking up of a practice that is pleasant now and ripens in pleasure. When a person understands this, they take it up.”

§12“These are the four ways of taking up practices.”

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Self-check quiz

Ten questions. Click an answer to see immediate feedback. No score is recorded — this is for your own checking.

Question 1 of 10
How many ways of taking up practices does the Buddha teach in MN 45?
Correct: A. The Buddha defines four types using a 2×2 matrix: pleasant or painful now × ripening in pleasure or pain. This produces four possibilities, each illustrated with a simile. The framework invites the listener to evaluate practices on two dimensions, not just one.
Question 2 of 10
What is the simile for a practice that is pleasant now but ripens in pain?
Correct: C. The sweet drink laced with poison is the perfect image for a practice that is seductive in the moment but harmful in its consequences. It looks good, smells good, tastes good — but it kills you. The bronze cup makes it even more attractive. This is the most dangerous type because one takes it up precisely because it feels good now.
Question 3 of 10
What is the simile for a practice that is painful now but ripens in pleasure?
Correct: B. Fermented urine mixed with medicine is repulsive in color, smell, and taste — but it cures illness. The simile captures the experience of practices that feel difficult or unpleasant in the doing but produce lasting well-being. The wise person is willing to endure the unpleasant taste because they can see the result.
Question 4 of 10
Which type of practice does the Buddha present as ideal?
Correct: D. The honey-ghee-sugar simile represents the ideal: a practice that is genuinely pleasant in the doing and beneficial in its results. The Buddha does not teach that spiritual practice must always be painful. As practice matures, ethical conduct becomes natural, meditation brings joy, and wisdom provides ease. Type 4 is the aspiration, not Type 3.
Question 5 of 10
According to this discourse, what do the ten unwholesome courses of action have in common with a poisoned drink?
Correct: B. The ten unwholesome courses (killing, stealing, lying, etc.) can feel pleasant or satisfying in the moment — like a sweet drink. But they produce painful results — like poison taking effect. The key insight is that the danger is hidden: the harm is not in the taste but in the consequence.
Question 6 of 10
Why does the Buddha call Type 2 (pleasant now, painful later) the most dangerous?
Correct: A. Type 2 is dangerous precisely because it is seductive. The person who evaluates choices only by how they feel now will always choose the sweet drink — because it tastes good. They do not see the poison. Understanding this type requires the ability to look past immediate experience to long-term consequence, which is what the discourse is training the listener to do.
Question 7 of 10
What distinguishes a “wise person” from an “unwise person” in this discourse?
Correct: C. The discourse’s central teaching is about the two axes of evaluation. The unwise person looks only at how a practice feels now. The wise person asks: “How will this ripen?” Wisdom is not about avoiding pleasure but about seeing the full picture — present experience and future consequence.
Question 8 of 10
What is the simile for a practice that is painful now and painful later?
Correct: D. The bitter gourd cup of poison is the worst of all possibilities: unpleasant in the moment and fatal in its result. There is nothing redeeming about this practice — it is bitter and poisonous. The Buddha’s example is extreme self-mortification practiced out of delusion, which brings suffering now and leads to a bad rebirth.
Question 9 of 10
What specific actions does the Buddha use as examples of practices that ripen in pain?
Correct: A. The ten unwholesome courses of action from MN 41–42 reappear here as examples of practices whose results are painful. This connects MN 45 back to the ethical framework established earlier in the chapter. Whether these unwholesome actions are pleasant or painful in the doing, their long-term result is always bad rebirth.
Question 10 of 10
MN 45 and MN 46 form a pair. What is MN 46?
Correct: B. MN 46 (Mahādhammasamādānasutta) is the “longer discourse on taking up practices.” It elaborates the same four-cell framework with more detailed examples and analysis, including the simile of a person trapped in a dark forest. Together, MN 45–46 form the third pair in the Cūḷayamakavagga.
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