Saṃyutta Nikāya · Discourse 11.1

With Suvīra

Suvīrasutta

Setting
Sāvatthī, Jeta's Grove, Anāthapiṇḍika's monastery — the Buddha narrating a story from the world of the gods
Speakers
The Buddha, addressing the mendicants; within the story, Sakka, lord of gods, and the godling Suvīra
Form
A retold myth in prose and verse, escalating through repeated exchanges, closed with a moral drawn for the monks
Length
~3.5 minutes to read
Northern parallel
A rough counterpart may exist in the Chinese Saṃyukta-āgama (T99), though this reading guide does not assert a specific matching sutra number
Difficulty
★★★☆☆ — opens a new saṃyutta with a cleverly ironic teaching device

Why this discourse

This discourse opens Sakkasaṃyutta with something distinct from every previous saṃyutta in this collection: rather than a deity or spirit visiting the Buddha directly, the Buddha himself narrates a story from the world of the gods to his assembled mendicants. The godling Suvīra, ordered three times by Sakka to march against invading titans, simply fails to act each time. Rather than punishing him directly, Sakka turns Suvīra's evident wish — happiness without effort — into the subject of an escalating verse exchange, one that arrives, almost as a trap sprung on its own premise, at the conclusion that even extinguishment itself would require a path if such effortless happiness existed anywhere at all.

Reading guide

A story told, not an encounter witnessed

Unlike SN 1 through SN 10, where a deity or spirit appears directly before the Buddha, this discourse is narrated retrospectively, the Buddha recounting a past event among the gods to his own assembled community — a structural shift opening this saṃyutta.

Failure repeated three times, without escalating punishment

Suvīra doesn't refuse Sakka's order outright; he agrees each time and then simply fails to follow through, three times running — and Sakka's response isn't anger or discipline, but a different kind of address entirely, delivered in verse.

A wish taken at face value, then followed to its conclusion

Rather than lecturing Suvīra about duty, Sakka's verses engage directly with what Suvīra actually seems to want — a place where happiness comes without effort — treating the wish as worth investigating on its own terms rather than dismissing it.

An escalating exchange arriving at its own punchline

Each verse builds on the last: Suvīra names his wish more precisely, Sakka restates the offer to find such a place, until the final exchange lands on the conclusion that only extinguishment could possibly answer the description — and extinguishment itself requires a path, undermining the very premise of effortless happiness.

A moral drawn explicitly for the monks listening

The Buddha doesn't leave the story to speak for itself without application; he closes by noting that even Sakka, already enjoying the fruits of good deeds and ruling over the gods, still praises initiative and energy — making the point directly relevant to monks who have every reason to strive for what remains unattained.

Key terms

asurā deve abhiyaṁsu — “the titans marched against the gods” — the cosmic mythological setup opening the story.
pamādaṁ āpādesi — “fell into negligence” — Suvīra's repeated failure to act, despite agreeing each time.
anuṭṭhahaṁ avāyāmaṁ, sukhaṁ yatrādhigacchati — “where you can achieve happiness without working for it or trying hard” — Sakka's ironic, leading question, restated with escalation across the exchange.
nibbānassa hi so maggo — “that surely would be extinguishment's path” — the punchline revealing that not even nibbāna comes without effort.
uṭṭhānavīriyassa vaṇṇavādī — “will speak in praise of initiative and energy” — the moral the Buddha draws explicitly for the monks.

The text

The discourse in full, opening Sakkasaṃyutta. Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato (CC0, SuttaCentral).

§1So I have heard. At one time the Buddha was staying near Sāvatthī in Jeta’s Grove, Anāthapiṇḍika’s monastery. There the Buddha addressed the mendicants, “Mendicants!” “Venerable sir,” they replied. The Buddha said this:

§2“Once upon a time, mendicants, the titans marched against the gods. Then Sakka, lord of gods, addressed the godling Suvīra, ‘Dear Suvīra, the titans march against the gods! Go, and march against the titans!’ ‘Yes, lord,’ replied Suvīra. But he fell into negligence. For a second time Sakka addressed Suvīra, ‘Dear Suvīra, the titans march against the gods! Go, and march against the titans!’ ‘Yes, lord,’ replied Suvīra. But for a second time he fell into negligence. For a third time Sakka addressed Suvīra, ‘Dear Suvīra, the titans march against the gods! Go, and march against the titans!’ ‘Yes, lord,’ replied Suvīra. But for a third time he fell into negligence. Then Sakka addressed the godling Suvīra in verse:

§3‘Suvīra, go to that place where you can achieve happiness without working for it or trying hard—and take me with you!’

§4‘That a lazy man who does no work, and doesn’t do his duty, can fulfill all his desires: Sakka, render me this boon!’

§5‘Suvīra, go to that place where a lazy man who does no work prospers in unending happiness—and take me with you!’

§6‘O Sakka, first among gods, that we might find the happiness that’s sorrowless, unstressed: Sakka, render me this boon!’

§7‘If there exists anywhere a place where one can live happily without working, that surely would be extinguishment’s path! Go there, Suvīra, and take me with you!’

§8Since, mendicants, even that Sakka, lord of gods—while living off of the fruit of his good deeds, and ruling as sovereign lord over these gods of the thirty-three—will speak in praise of initiative and energy, you can excel here, for you who have gone forth in such a well explained teaching and training can try hard, strive, and make an effort to attain the unattained, achieve the unachieved, and realize the unrealized.”

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Self-check quiz

Ten questions. Click an answer to see immediate feedback. No score is recorded — this is for your own checking.

Question 1 of 10
How does this discourse's structure differ from SN 1 through SN 10?
Correct: A. A structural shift opening Sakkasaṃyutta.
Question 2 of 10
What task does Sakka give to the godling Suvīra?
Correct: A. A defensive military task within the story's mythological setup.
Question 3 of 10
How many times does Suvīra fail to carry out this order?
Correct: A. Repeated agreement followed by repeated failure to act.
Question 4 of 10
How does Sakka respond to this repeated failure?
Correct: A. A different mode of address entirely, engaging with what Suvīra actually wants.
Question 5 of 10
What does Sakka's verse exchange investigate?
Correct: A. Taking the wish at face value rather than simply criticizing it.
Question 6 of 10
What conclusion does the escalating exchange arrive at?
Correct: A. Undermining the very premise of effortless happiness.
Question 7 of 10
What moral does the Buddha draw for the monks at the discourse's close?
Correct: A. Making the story directly relevant to the monks' own striving.
Question 8 of 10
What term does the moral use for the quality Sakka praises?
Correct: A. The specific quality Sakka is said to value, applied to the monks' own practice.
Question 9 of 10
Where does this discourse's narration take place?
Correct: A. The setting where the Buddha tells this story to the assembled monks.
Question 10 of 10
What title does Sakka hold within the story?
Correct: A. The chief deity of the Tāvatiṃsa heaven, central to this entire saṃyutta.
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